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Old 05-01-2014, 04:16 PM   #4301
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Right up there with true studs like Mike Glennon and Matt McGloin, and still behind all-stars Geno Smith and Kellen Clemens.

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Old 05-01-2014, 04:18 PM   #4302
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General Rule of Thumb:

When a "top 10" passing stat only nets 3 above average QBs, throw it out.
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Flacco can't throw deep!

I'd be interesting to know how many passing attempts to completions for that highly talented QB list.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:54 PM   #4304
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I went to the Avs game last night and still feel a bit down. This thread has helped though. Thanks Maners and KCGuy.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:59 PM   #4305
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I think we could've stopped the whole thing at Case Keenum.
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Old 05-01-2014, 05:20 PM   #4306
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I went to the Avs game last night and still feel a bit down. This thread has helped though. Thanks Maners and KCGuy.
There's sharks fans up north of me that are on suicide watch.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:08 PM   #4307
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same thing with us. Flowers, Hali, Houston all severely hurt in that playoff game.

Sanders Commings (better athletically than the top safeties in this class) was a legit 2nd round pick last year but fell due to an off the field incident.
Vance Walker with 43 total QB pressures last year (basically 5X more pressures than Jackson)

Whether they become great players remains to be seen, as well as draft picks from this class.

Btw-have fun with Rahim the dream.

I would bring up losing Charles before blaming the loss on those 3 one dimensional players being "hurt".

Hell I would even break out the kFc fan chestnut "you scored too fast" before blaming the loss on an overrated Flowers, and 2 pass rushers who have about 1.5 pass rushing moves being "hurt".

28 point lead deep into the 3rd quarter, all the great Alice Smith's O had to do was protect the ball and play their short game instead of trying to throw deep balls to overrated WR's who are known to drop a lot of passes.

After the last kFc TD the O put up the following:
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The dominant D even got an INT in the middle of all those Indy TD's yet they couldn't seal the deal because they suck on 3rd down and in the Reid Zone.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:09 PM   #4308
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Name Team Deep Acc. %
Matt Cassel MIN 47.4%

Alex D. Smith KC 46.3%
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:30 PM   #4309
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I would bring up losing Charles before blaming the loss on those 3 one dimensional players being "hurt".

Hell I would even break out the kFc fan chestnut "you scored too fast" before blaming the loss on an overrated Flowers, and 2 pass rushers who have about 1.5 pass rushing moves being "hurt".

28 point lead deep into the 3rd quarter, all the great Alice Smith's O had to do was protect the ball and play their short game instead of trying to throw deep balls to overrated WR's who are known to drop a lot of passes.

After the last kFc TD the O put up the following:
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The dominant D even got an INT in the middle of all those Indy TD's yet they couldn't seal the deal because they suck on 3rd down and in the Reid Zone.
Always a great laugh when mongoloids like brokebacksteven try to pin losses on an offense that put up 44 points with no RB's left and the #2 WR out of the game.

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Old 05-01-2014, 10:09 PM   #4310
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I've asked this before, I'll ask it again:

If everybody's healthy, is Kansas City a better football team than Denver?
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:22 PM   #4311
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I've asked this before, I'll ask it again:

If everybody's healthy, is Kansas City a better football team than Denver?
Yup, but judging by last year not by much. Only a 17 point difference in 2 games.

As soon as Manning retires it's all over.
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Yup, but judging by last year not by much. Only a 17 point difference in 2 games.

As soon as Manning retires it's all over.
Unbelievable. Denver sweeps KC and wins 2 playoff games and you answer that KC is the better team??

Worry about actually beating manning at least ONCE before you claim they are better.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:36 PM   #4313
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Geez, yeah. I guess I forgot how close both of those games were last year. Wow.
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Unbelievable. Denver sweeps KC and wins 2 playoff games and you answer that KC is the better team??

Worry about actually beating manning at least ONCE before you claim they are better.
My bad I misread the question and thought it said is Denver better.

Denver is better, only because of Manning. That's literally it.
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Just to stir the pot a little, how many people think that Manning will play at a higher level longer than Charles does?
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My bad I misread the question and thought it said is Denver better.

Denver is better, only because of Manning. That's literally it.
I had to re read his post to make sure he didn't say Denver first. Your post makes more sense now. You can say that about a lot of teams with great QBs. Hell even most teams. You think KC goes to the playoffs if smith went down early in the season?
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I had to re read his post to make sure he didn't say Denver first. Your post makes more sense now. You can say that about a lot of teams with great QBs. Hell even most teams. You think KC goes to the playoffs if smith went down early in the season?
That's not the point. Manning hides A LOT of your weaknesses. The AFC didn't have an elite defense like SF, CAR or SEA and they exposed that weakness.

The OL, RB's, WR's and even the defense all look much better because of Manning.

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That's not the point. Manning hides A LOT of your weaknesses. The AFC didn't have an elite offense like SF, CAR or SEA and they exposed that weakness.

The OL, RB's, WR's and even the defense all look much better because of Manning.
They also won the division(and playoff game) with arguably the worst QB I've ever seen. The purpose of a great QB is to elevate his players. Nothing wrong with that.
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They also won the division(and playoff game) with arguably the worst QB I've ever seen. The purpose of a great QB is to elevate his players. Nothing wrong with that.
And when Manning is gone, you won't have anything remotely close to his impact.
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And when Manning is gone, you won't have anything remotely close to his impact.
How do you know? You don't know who will be throwing. I sure don't. Manning is a one of a kind. I'm not worried about them trying to find the next manning. Their next longterm could be a QB who isn't old enough to drink yet. Some one completely different.

Fact is before manning the team was competitive over the years(aside from one 4 win season). After manning I expect the same thing

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I've asked this before, I'll ask it again:

If everybody's healthy, is Kansas City a better football team than Denver?
Not even close
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It's always a silly argument to say "yeah, they are only better because..."

It's better or not better...the why makes no difference. On the flip side I bet there's a dozen reasons why KC is worse.
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Denver is better
Cool.

Let's revisit this in about five months.
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I've asked this before, I'll ask it again:

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My bad I misread the question and thought it said is Denver better.

Denver is better, only because of Manning. That's literally it.
No, Denver is better because they are Denver. Denver > KC. This is a law of nature.
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