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Old 04-09-2014, 05:25 PM   #4201
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Maybe if the best offense ever could score more than 8 points people wouldn't be questioning Manning.

I'm still laughing out loud that you're trying so hard to cut down a QB that scored 44 points with that much adversity of players getting hurt.
Like I said before (I realize some people need to hear things more than once to grasp them), Manning didn't snap the ball over his own head, he didn't fail to make stops on 3rd and long all day, he didn't break down in pass pro, he turned the ball over like 3 other dudes did but he wasn't on the field when the opening 2nd half kick was returned for a TD.

It was a team loss and we are over it and looking forward to sweeping the division (which will be hard with SD in it), winning the Division, and getting to and winning the SB.

What you fail to see is that sometimes people learn from bad things so they don't happen again. So far Elway has done all he can to fill the major gaps with MAJOR talent upgrades, we get 7 starters back, there are still one or 2 FA's out there they could make a move on and we still have the draft where John has the luxury of drafting BPA across the board unlike your team that has had to reach on players the last couple years to fill positions of need.
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:01 PM   #4202
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Maybe if the best offense ever could score more than 8 points people wouldn't be questioning Manning.

I'm still laughing out loud that you're trying so hard to cut down a QB that scored 44 points with that much adversity of players getting hurt.
Got it Alex Smith> Manning.
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:35 PM   #4203
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After the historic collapse that put kc in the record book he went to family smack so he didn't have to face us all.
I know. I was asking to see if he would own up to it. He was running his mouth so much about it being "our Super Bowl" yet he was the one who was so furious after Denver ended their 9-0 streak--without even breaking a sweat--that he flew off the rails and got banned.

Dude is one stupid son of a b****.
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Old 04-09-2014, 07:56 PM   #4204
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Got it Alex Smith> Manning.
Don't forget that KC is better then Denver in every way.
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:08 PM   #4205
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Like I said before (I realize some people need to hear things more than once to grasp them), Manning didn't snap the ball over his own head, he didn't fail to make stops on 3rd and long all day, he didn't break down in pass pro, he turned the ball over like 3 other dudes did but he wasn't on the field when the opening 2nd half kick was returned for a TD.

It was a team loss and we are over it and looking forward to sweeping the division (which will be hard with SD in it), winning the Division, and getting to and winning the SB.

What you fail to see is that sometimes people learn from bad things so they don't happen again. So far Elway has done all he can to fill the major gaps with MAJOR talent upgrades, we get 7 starters back, there are still one or 2 FA's out there they could make a move on and we still have the draft where John has the luxury of drafting BPA across the board unlike your team that has had to reach on players the last couple years to fill positions of need.
Elway sure isn't learning because the team that wins the Super Bowl primarily drafts well and builds their team that way, not by adding broken players or past their prime guys.

Broncos won free agency last 2 years and a talented team that drafts well knocked them out each year..
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Elway sure isn't learning because the team that wins the Super Bowl primarily drafts well and builds their team that way, not by adding broken players or past their prime guys.

Broncos won free agency last 2 years and a talented team that drafts well knocked them out each year..
Seattle doesn't win the NFC west without last years FA class. Percy harvin was huge for them in the Super Bowl though. They drafted him. They also drafted that front line like Bennett and Avril who posed us problems. Lynch too. He was drafted by seattle.


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It's always different for teams that players actually want to play for. KC can't even sign players like sanders.

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Old 04-09-2014, 08:27 PM   #4207
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Elway sure isn't learning because the team that wins the Super Bowl primarily drafts well and builds their team that way, not by adding broken players or past their prime guys.

Broncos won free agency last 2 years and a talented team that drafts well knocked them out each year..
thinking Baltimore is a better drafting team at this point, they have been going backward since winning the SB because they have missed on draft picks and reached on FA's like Doom. Moving Boldin was a terrible trade for them.

When the Broncos ended up drafting 2nd overall they ended up with an impact player in Von Miller.

kFc gets the top overall pick and end up with an avg tackle.

I trust in John to build a solid kFc ass kicking team for the long term.
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I will say in 2014 seattle lost quite a bit. They have to prepare for monster contracts for Thomas Sherman Wilson etc. had they lost Bennett and the other guy they resigned it would've been a pretty big blow.
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thinking Baltimore is a better drafting team at this point, they have been going backward since winning the SB because they have missed on draft picks and reached on FA's like Doom. Moving Boldin was a terrible trade for them.

When the Broncos ended up drafting 2nd overall they ended up with an impact player in Von Miller.

kFc gets the top overall pick and end up with an avg tackle.

I trust in John to build a solid kFc ass kicking team for the long term.
Who says anything about now? I was referring to when they beat you. Seattle will be faced with Baltimore's problem of shelling out $$$ in no time.

And you're grading a draft class right now? Ah, I remember when morons like you did the same thing with Dontari Poe. How did that turn out?

Speaking of...if you're gonna judge Fisher right now, than I guess using your agenda, Elway got literally nothing from his draft too.
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This thread is still amazing, and the ownage over Drunkenbrokebackaholic's and Gaylore makes it even sweeter.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=106470
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Elway sure isn't learning because the team that wins the Super Bowl primarily drafts well and builds their team that way, not by adding broken players or past their prime guys.

Broncos won free agency last 2 years and a talented team that drafts well knocked them out each year..
Only Ware is "old" or past his prime, i didnt know 27 and 28 was past a players prime

Key players the last 2 SB champs signed in FA, or traded/signed for.

Bal- Pollard, Boldin, Birk, Jacoby Jones, McKinnie.

Sea- Lynch, Harvin, Bennett, Avril.

Check Mate, b****
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Key players the last 2 SB champs signed in FA, or traded/signed for.

Bal- Pollard, Boldin, Birk, Jacoby Jones, McKinnie.

Sea- Lynch, Harvin, Bennett, Avril.

Check Mate, b****
Flacco, T. Smith, Seattle's entire secondary, Seattle's SB MVP, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis (leadership).

My God you're dumb. Stupid noob is stupid.
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KC can't even sign a player. They had the number one pick and drafted a RT. They suck.
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Flacco, T. Smith, Seattle's entire secondary, Seattle's SB MVP, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis (leadership).

My God you're dumb. Stupid noob is stupid.
Balt doesn't win the SB without those FAs.
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Flacco, T. Smith, Seattle's entire secondary, Seattle's SB MVP, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis (leadership).

My God you're dumb. Stupid noob is stupid.
So both those teams win it all without those players they signed in FA?

Yeah, i agree you are dumb.

Avril/Bennett was a huge reason Seattle's D was as good as it was, some players said Bennett was their defensive MVP.

Lynch was the workhorse, and no chance in hell they win it all or even make the playoffs without him.

The Pollard hit on Ridley changed the AFCCG. McKinnie changed their OL giving Flacco all day to throw. Birk anchored the middle of the line.

You need to have a mix of both.

Elway said at the combine he wanted to fill holes in FA, where he wouldnt have to reach in the draft so he can draft BPA, which he pretty much can now.

You CANNOT win solely with the draft, its not possible.

GB is maybe the only team who does it and thats because they have the best QB in the league, arguably.
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Balt doesn't win the SB without those FAs.
They also don't win a SB without the players I listed.

Which by the way, those free agents weren't broken or past their prime, except for Harvin, who they didn't even need to get to the SB.

Why? Because they drafted well.
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KC can't even sign a player. They had the number one pick and drafted a RT. They suck.
Fisher's playing LT dumbass. Back to school you go
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They also don't win a SB without the players I listed.

Which by the way, those free agents weren't broken or past their prime, except for Harvin, who they didn't even need to get to the SB.

Why? Because they drafted well.
27, 27, 28, 32.

Those are the ages of the players Elway signed in FA, the big ones.

Minus Ware, all of them are prime-age.
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They also don't win a SB without the players I listed.

Which by the way, those free agents weren't broken or past their prime, except for Harvin, who they didn't even need to get to the SB.

Why? Because they drafted well.
Harvin is on Balt? Seattle gave up a lot of draft picks including a 1st for harvin.

Bottom line is you need a mix. The fact Denver has so much cap space they can afford to bring in FAs while utilizing draft picks. OL is a perfect example. Mix of great drafted players with FAs like Vasquez. WR another example. Defense lost its softness. 9 new/healed players will be starting on defense that didnt start on defense in the SB. Trevathan and knighton(another FA who beasted).

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27, 27, 28, 32.

Those are the ages of the players Elway signed in FA, the big ones.

Minus Ware, all of them are prime-age.
Ware will probably lead the west in sacks this year. KC pass rush sucked when it didn't face 3rd string QBs.
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Harvin is on Balt? Seattle gave up a lot of draft picks including a 1st for harvin.

Bottom line is you need a mix. The fact Denver has so much cap space they can afford to bring in FAs while utilizing draft picks. OL is a perfect example. Mix of great drafted players with FAs like Vasquez. WR another example. Defense lost its softness. 9 new/healed players will be starting on defense that didnt start on defense in the SB. Trevathan and knighton(another FA who beasted).
Not disagreeing. You do need a mix, but you have to have most of your team be from the draft.

Your defense remains to be seen.
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Not disagreeing. You do need a mix, but you have to have most of your team be from the draft.

Your defense remains to be seen.
It remains to be seen for all of us. 9 players? Pretty crazy.
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Elway sure isn't learning because the team that wins the Super Bowl primarily drafts well and builds their team that way, not by adding broken players or past their prime guys.

Broncos won free agency last 2 years and a talented team that drafts well knocked them out each year..
The Chefs have no choice but to "try to build through the draft." No free agents ever want to come there.

Also, don't forget that their perrenial suckage often means high draft picks. Classic Chefs how they "landed" the #1 pick last year for one of the worst drafts in history. Sandwiched between two great drafts - one year late for Andrew Luck and one year early for this one, one of the deepest in history. Hey KCStud, who are you guys selecting in the second round this year?

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The Chefs have no choice but to "try to build through the draft." No free agents ever want to come there.

Also, don't forget that their perrenial suckage often means high draft picks. Classic Chefs how they "landed" the #1 pick last year for one of the worst drafts in history. Sandwiched between two great drafts - one year late for Andrew Luck and one year early for this one, one of the deepest in history. Hey KCStud, who are you guys selecting in the second round this year?
Whoever the Broncos select, I guarantee that they will be better than the Chefs' pick.
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