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Old 04-09-2014, 10:10 PM   #4151
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Key players the last 2 SB champs signed in FA, or traded/signed for.

Bal- Pollard, Boldin, Birk, Jacoby Jones, McKinnie.

Sea- Lynch, Harvin, Bennett, Avril.

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Flacco, T. Smith, Seattle's entire secondary, Seattle's SB MVP, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis (leadership).

My God you're dumb. Stupid noob is stupid.
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KC can't even sign a player. They had the number one pick and drafted a RT. They suck.
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Flacco, T. Smith, Seattle's entire secondary, Seattle's SB MVP, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis (leadership).

My God you're dumb. Stupid noob is stupid.
Balt doesn't win the SB without those FAs.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:17 PM   #4154
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Flacco, T. Smith, Seattle's entire secondary, Seattle's SB MVP, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis (leadership).

My God you're dumb. Stupid noob is stupid.
So both those teams win it all without those players they signed in FA?

Yeah, i agree you are dumb.

Avril/Bennett was a huge reason Seattle's D was as good as it was, some players said Bennett was their defensive MVP.

Lynch was the workhorse, and no chance in hell they win it all or even make the playoffs without him.

The Pollard hit on Ridley changed the AFCCG. McKinnie changed their OL giving Flacco all day to throw. Birk anchored the middle of the line.

You need to have a mix of both.

Elway said at the combine he wanted to fill holes in FA, where he wouldnt have to reach in the draft so he can draft BPA, which he pretty much can now.

You CANNOT win solely with the draft, its not possible.

GB is maybe the only team who does it and thats because they have the best QB in the league, arguably.
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Balt doesn't win the SB without those FAs.
They also don't win a SB without the players I listed.

Which by the way, those free agents weren't broken or past their prime, except for Harvin, who they didn't even need to get to the SB.

Why? Because they drafted well.
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KC can't even sign a player. They had the number one pick and drafted a RT. They suck.
Fisher's playing LT dumbass. Back to school you go
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They also don't win a SB without the players I listed.

Which by the way, those free agents weren't broken or past their prime, except for Harvin, who they didn't even need to get to the SB.

Why? Because they drafted well.
27, 27, 28, 32.

Those are the ages of the players Elway signed in FA, the big ones.

Minus Ware, all of them are prime-age.
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They also don't win a SB without the players I listed.

Which by the way, those free agents weren't broken or past their prime, except for Harvin, who they didn't even need to get to the SB.

Why? Because they drafted well.
Harvin is on Balt? Seattle gave up a lot of draft picks including a 1st for harvin.

Bottom line is you need a mix. The fact Denver has so much cap space they can afford to bring in FAs while utilizing draft picks. OL is a perfect example. Mix of great drafted players with FAs like Vasquez. WR another example. Defense lost its softness. 9 new/healed players will be starting on defense that didnt start on defense in the SB. Trevathan and knighton(another FA who beasted).

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27, 27, 28, 32.

Those are the ages of the players Elway signed in FA, the big ones.

Minus Ware, all of them are prime-age.
Ware will probably lead the west in sacks this year. KC pass rush sucked when it didn't face 3rd string QBs.
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Harvin is on Balt? Seattle gave up a lot of draft picks including a 1st for harvin.

Bottom line is you need a mix. The fact Denver has so much cap space they can afford to bring in FAs while utilizing draft picks. OL is a perfect example. Mix of great drafted players with FAs like Vasquez. WR another example. Defense lost its softness. 9 new/healed players will be starting on defense that didnt start on defense in the SB. Trevathan and knighton(another FA who beasted).
Not disagreeing. You do need a mix, but you have to have most of your team be from the draft.

Your defense remains to be seen.
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Not disagreeing. You do need a mix, but you have to have most of your team be from the draft.

Your defense remains to be seen.
It remains to be seen for all of us. 9 players? Pretty crazy.
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Old 04-10-2014, 12:55 AM   #4162
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Elway sure isn't learning because the team that wins the Super Bowl primarily drafts well and builds their team that way, not by adding broken players or past their prime guys.

Broncos won free agency last 2 years and a talented team that drafts well knocked them out each year..
The Chefs have no choice but to "try to build through the draft." No free agents ever want to come there.

Also, don't forget that their perrenial suckage often means high draft picks. Classic Chefs how they "landed" the #1 pick last year for one of the worst drafts in history. Sandwiched between two great drafts - one year late for Andrew Luck and one year early for this one, one of the deepest in history. Hey KCStud, who are you guys selecting in the second round this year?

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The Chefs have no choice but to "try to build through the draft." No free agents ever want to come there.

Also, don't forget that their perrenial suckage often means high draft picks. Classic Chefs how they "landed" the #1 pick last year for one of the worst drafts in history. Sandwiched between two great drafts - one year late for Andrew Luck and one year early for this one, one of the deepest in history. Hey KCStud, who are you guys selecting in the second round this year?
Whoever the Broncos select, I guarantee that they will be better than the Chefs' pick.
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The Chefs have no choice but to "try to build through the draft." No free agents ever want to come there.
Seriously, who was the last free agent of note the Chefs signed? And please, Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn don't count. Neither does Joe Mays. Have the Chefs signed anyone of note in recent years, or just Broncos castoffs? It is well known around the league: Kansas City is where careers go to die.
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Seriously, who was the last free agent of note the Chefs signed? And please, Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn don't count. Neither does Joe Mays. Have the Chefs signed anyone of note in recent years, or just Broncos castoffs? It is well known around the league: Kansas City is where careers go to die.
Even Emmanuel Sanders only hung out in Kansas City long enough to say "thanks for the free barbecue, biatches!!!" before fleeing to Denver. And while I think Sanders will be a great complimentary piece for the Broncos, he's far from the franchise savior the Chefs need. And with only one of the first 86 picks, they're unlikely to find their savior in the draft this year, either.
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Chimpanzees on the loose in KC. Wonder if Reid can sign any to play the scat back?

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/W...254805591.html
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Seriously, who was the last free agent of note the Chefs signed? And please, Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn don't count. Neither does Joe Mays. Have the Chefs signed anyone of note in recent years, or just Broncos castoffs? It is well known around the league: Kansas City is where careers go to die.
Hey they upgraded their WR Corps last year by signing the great Dwayne Bowe!

Bowe showed his worth by dropping a deep ball in the playoffs helping to seal the 2nd worst Playoff Choke in NFL History.



I love how kFc handled the Sanders visit. Didn't they outright lie to Sanders to get him back to the building but he listened to his agent and went to the airport.

Class organization.

Maybe they can draft a true RT this year.
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Chimpanzees on the loose in KC. Wonder if Reid can sign any to play the scat back?

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/W...254805591.html
If only kFc was that calm during the EPIC Playoff Choke

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Hey they upgraded their WR Corps last year by signing the great Dwayne Bowe!

Bowe showed his worth by dropping a deep ball in the playoffs helping to seal the 2nd worst Playoff Choke in NFL History.



I love how kFc handled the Sanders visit. Didn't they outright lie to Sanders to get him back to the building but he listened to his agent and went to the airport.

Class organization.

Maybe they can draft a true RT this year.
Do you feel better making things up?

And I don't give a **** about Sanders. Either Odell Beckham Jr, Brandin Cooks, Marqise Lee will be there at 23, along with other talented WR's throughout the draft.
If there was ever a year to draft a WR, it's this draft.
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Do you feel better making things up?

And I don't give a **** about Sanders. Either Odell Beckham Jr, Brandin Cooks, Marqise Lee will be there at 23, along with other talented WR's throughout the draft.
If there was ever a year to draft a WR, it's this draft.
Will be glorious to witness them going for a G with that pick.
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Will be glorious to witness them going for a G with that pick.
severely doubt this happens unless the ND kid somehow falls, which isn't likely.
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"If there are winners in free agency, there must also be losers...

LOSERS

Kansas City Chiefs

Their best signing was ... Vance Walker. The best player they re-signed was Husain Abdullah. Meanwhile, the Chiefs lost 6,000 snaps with offensive tackle Branden Albert, guard Jon Asamoah, defensive end Tyson Jackson, returner Dexter McCluster, safety Kendrick Lewis and guard Geoff Schwartz. 6,000!

These weren't Pro Bowl players, but that's a lot of change, especially for an offensive line that was playing well at the end of last season. The Chiefs' salary cap situation got in their way of adding players, and the offense lacks playmakers. This is Andy Reid's second season in Kansas City, but this still feels like a team very much in transition."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...in-free-agency


Now even NFL.com is acknowledging what we have all known for some time: the Chefs suck.
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Do you feel better making things up?

And I don't give a **** about Sanders. Either Odell Beckham Jr, Brandin Cooks, Marqise Lee will be there at 23, along with other talented WR's throughout the draft.
If there was ever a year to draft a WR, it's this draft.
Enjoy reaching on draft picks because you have to draft by need again this year rather than BPA.

One rookie at WR isn't going to upgrade their WR corps. Plus where are you going to draft one? 1st round and reach or use your late 1st to grab much need OL help? Drop back and try to pick up 2 2nd round picks then take one then?

They overpaid for a WR who can't produce and drops balls in big time situations. Hoping to hit on a WR in the draft who can contribute out of the gate in an West Coast O is desperation.

This year may be more of a rebuilding year than last year was for kFc.
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Look what I just found, sound familiar?

K.C. needs a wideout -- or two

The Chiefs have watched a boatload of solid starters walk out the door this offseason.

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For this offense to pick up where it left off last season, Andy Reid must source new playmakers in the passing game. Dwayne Bowe is overpaid and hardly an inspiring No. 1 after squeezing out just 57 catches in 2013.

Kansas City's second-leading receiver, Dexter McCluster, is gone. That leaves Donnie Avery, who averaged just 2.5 catches per game, as the No. 2 option ahead of projects Junior Hemingway and A.J. Jenkins.

Alex Smith lit up the Colts for 363 yards in the wild-card loss to Indy, but the Chiefs finished the year as the 24th-ranked air attack and a lowly 27th in yards per attempt (6.5). Staring at a receiver-rich draft class, it's time for Reid to rip off the training wheels and find one -- maybe two -- field-stretching targets who can diversify this offense.

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