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Old 09-11-2013, 01:17 PM   #2926
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #2927
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Well, I for one think the Chiefs could be potentially dangerous. They have a talent-rich team. Last year they were missing arguably the two biggest components: a QB and a smart head coach. They fixed both those things so I'm interested to see what they do. I don't think beating up on the utterly pathetic Jags is a good indicator of things to come, though.
You really think Alex Smith and his 5 yards per attempt is a fix for the QB position? Seriously, for the Chiefs to have a prayer against us or any other team with an elite QB they are going to need way more than that. I also think Andy Reid is highly overrated, but to each their own.

Chiefs go 6-10 at best.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:58 PM   #2928
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He's also able to get a shutout despite the other team scoring
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:01 PM   #2929
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all you have to do is look at Alex Smith's stats for the game to know that they will struggle against good competition. I think Dallas is going to light them up. I think Witten and Dez Bryant are going to have a field day. Kc has decent safeties but their CBs are questionable. I have Romo on my ff team and I may bench Brees and start Romo this week.
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:14 PM   #2930
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Chiefs go 6-10 at best.
I think their ceiling is probably higher then 6 wins. They should win 6 games; if they catch some breaks, could see them get 9-10 wins. But they won't likely be contenders as long as Alex Smith is there, so the move is still very puzzling.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:34 PM   #2931
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I think their ceiling is probably higher then 6 wins. They should win 6 games; if they catch some breaks, could see them get 9-10 wins. But they won't likely be contenders as long as Alex Smith is there, so the move is still very puzzling.
I honestly hope you're right. I was in Vegas last week and took them to win 10. What the hell, it was only $50.......

Contenders? Nope. Easy schedule coupled with that D "should" get them there with (and this is a big IF) a small possibility of a wild card slot - loss.

But still, to go from a horrible last year to the possibility of 9-10 wins is one hell of an accomplishment. Good for the AFC West!
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:02 PM   #2932
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I think their ceiling is probably higher then 6 wins. They should win 6 games; if they catch some breaks, could see them get 9-10 wins. But they won't likely be contenders as long as Alex Smith is there, so the move is still very puzzling.
He was the best possible QB we could could have gotten this offseason. That's not really debatable.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:05 PM   #2933
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He was the best possible QB we could could have gotten this offseason. That's not really debatable.
I don't think anyone would argue against that point. It's just him being the best known commodity available, was more a reflection of a weak QB free agency class, more so then it does about him being a true franchise QB. Someone in the draft class probably ends up having a better career then Alex Smith, although who that is, really is anyone's guess.

Guess I can't really bash it that much, considering if Manning had signed with SF, there's a decent chance Denver turns to Alex Smith... although they aren't giving up two 2nd round picks in the process.

Still, in today's NFL, you pretty much have to have someone that can carry the team at times, and Smith likely isn't that.

Serious question, if KC goes to the playoffs, the next few years but KC still can't win in the postseason, is it seen as a good move? At what point is it more beneficial to take a risk in the draft, then have the known commodity?

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Old 09-11-2013, 08:34 PM   #2934
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I don't think anyone would argue against that point. It's just him being the best known commodity available, was more a reflection of a weak QB free agency class, more so then it does about him being a true franchise QB. Someone in the draft class probably ends up having a better career then Alex Smith, although who that is, really is anyone's guess.

Guess I can't really bash it that much, considering if Manning had signed with SF, there's a decent chance Denver turns to Alex Smith... although they aren't giving up two 2nd round picks in the process.

Still, in today's NFL, you pretty much have to have someone that can carry the team at times, and Smith likely isn't that.

Serious question, if KC goes to the playoffs, the next few years but KC still can't win in the postseason, is it seen as a good move? At what point is it more beneficial to take a risk in the draft, then have the known commodity?
Reid made it clear that he thought this was a "win now team". By win now, he elaborated that he believes this team has a chance be in the race to make the playoffs this year. Do you think any rookie QB this year could have lead this team to that? I honestly don't.
I think it's very questionable at this time that any rookie QB would be a better value pick than Smith. EJ Manuel looks good, but there was no way we were taking him first overall.

As for the picks given up, we were in a spot with no advantage. Harbaugh (and everyone else in the league) knew after the combine that this years crop of QB's was terrible. Smith was the only decent QB available, so he played that against us and we had no choice but to fork that up.
Looking at the 2nd round where we picked, I don't see any players that are going to make an impact on their team that Alex will this year. Maybe in the future, but not right now.

I think Dorsey did very well with the player personnel at this time. Alex was the right QB to get right now. Fisher looked much better than Joeckel from an athletic and longterm standpoint (Joeckel's technique was terrible Sunday and he was extremely slow like we saw at the combine).
We even had a 7th round draft pick make some nice plays in our first game. I know it's the Jags, but how often do you see 7th round picks make any impact, especially this early?

To top it off, he got a QB with arguably the best physical tools in Tyler Bray for basically nothing at all as he was an undrafted rookie free agent.

We'll see how it folds out, but at this point in time, I like what Dorsey is doing.
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Reid made it clear that he thought this was a "win now team". By win now, he elaborated that he believes this team has a chance be in the race to make the playoffs this year. Do you think any rookie QB this year could have lead this team to that? I honestly don't.
No, but I don't think Alex Smith can either...

win now... ... whewwww... ... almost done... ... Ahhh... okay.

Yeeesh. That was a good one.
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Reid made it clear that he thought this was a "win now team". By win now, he elaborated that he believes this team has a chance be in the race to make the playoffs this year. Do you think any rookie QB this year could have lead this team to that? I honestly don't.
I think it's very questionable at this time that any rookie QB would be a better value pick than Smith. EJ Manuel looks good, but there was no way we were taking him first overall.
Very few coaches are going to say otherwise. It is a "win now" league, and you can't have a coach that is doubting whether it is possible for the team to have success. Again, think it is obvious Smith improves KC's chances of winning this year, more so then any Rookie QB. Just not sure how high that ceiling is, and if a bunch of 9-10 win seasons would be deemed as success or not by the KC fanbase. And even that, is hardly a given

Their first 9 games definitely create the possibility of them having a hot start, and staying in the playoff race... but their schedule after the bye will not be easy. Will depend on what other teams do, just as much as what KC does.
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Old 09-11-2013, 10:42 PM   #2937
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I don't think anyone would argue against that point. It's just him being the best known commodity available, was more a reflection of a weak QB free agency class, more so then it does about him being a true franchise QB. Someone in the draft class probably ends up having a better career then Alex Smith, although who that is, really is anyone's guess.

Guess I can't really bash it that much, considering if Manning had signed with SF, there's a decent chance Denver turns to Alex Smith... although they aren't giving up two 2nd round picks in the process.

Still, in today's NFL, you pretty much have to have someone that can carry the team at times, and Smith likely isn't that.

Serious question, if KC goes to the playoffs, the next few years but KC still can't win in the postseason, is it seen as a good move? At what point is it more beneficial to take a risk in the draft, then have the known commodity?
Absolutely not. My Brother lives in KC. He was a big fan of Schottemheimer but got sick to death of Schottenheimer pissing down his leg in the play offs. Most of the folks there agree. 10-6, 11-5 hell, 13-3 are nothing more than a waste of time if you can't move past the first round of the playoffs.

The last GM (Pioli) was a complete and utter idiot. Good riddance. I mean, seriously. When the fan base begins flying banners over the stadium demanding his firing - what can you say??

John Dorsey ""seems" to have it together. Reid has brought stability (and apparently a little pride) to this team after many years of nonsense.

Shoot, I'm just glad to see another team in the AFCW bring a little respectability back to this pitiful conference. It's about high time.
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Old 09-12-2013, 11:24 AM   #2938
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Yeah, you're probably right. Makes it more curious when Houston won Defensive Player of the Week a couple of hours ago, doesn't it?
He got that because of his 3 sacks, not for his play vs the run vs the worst team in football.
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Absolutely not. My Brother lives in KC. He was a big fan of Schottemheimer but got sick to death of Schottenheimer pissing down his leg in the play offs. Most of the folks there agree. 10-6, 11-5 hell, 13-3 are nothing more than a waste of time if you can't move past the first round of the playoffs.
I agree that having a team that bottoms out in the postseason is a waste of time. I live in KC as well, and seems like some fans are mixed. Some almost miss the Marty years.

We all know he didn't win in the playoffs much, but in his 10 years, they did have 3 playoff wins. He has all of KC's playoff wins since Super Bowl IV. He had a trip to the AFC Championship Game. In the 12 following seasons, KC has had only 3 trips to the postseason, and 0 playoff wins. Think it's pretty obvious that he was by far the best coach the Chiefs have had, since Hank Stram.

So really, the bar is set very low for KC. Even a repeat of his last 6 years in Philly, would likely be seen as success, at least by most fans

Far as Dorsey and Reid go, it seems they are doing a good job, but many fans felt the same about Pioli and Haley early in their tenure, and they had a 10 win season and a divisional title to their credit. I think we need to see how KC responds their next 3 games before we really have much of an idea
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I agree that having a team that bottoms out in the postseason is a waste of time. I live in KC as well, and seems like some fans are mixed. Some almost miss the Marty years.

We all know he didn't win in the playoffs much, but in his 10 years, they did have 3 playoff wins. He has all of KC's playoff wins since Super Bowl IV. He had a trip to the AFC Championship Game. In the 12 following seasons, KC has had only 3 trips to the postseason, and 0 playoff wins. Think it's pretty obvious that he was by far the best coach the Chiefs have had, since Hank Stram.

So really, the bar is set very low for KC. Even a repeat of his last 6 years in Philly, would likely be seen as success, at least by most fans

Far as Dorsey and Reid go, it seems they are doing a good job, but many fans felt the same about Pioli and Haley early in their tenure, and they had a 10 win season and a divisional title to their credit. I think we need to see how KC responds their next 3 games before we really have much of an idea
The best coach signing for kFc this year was Dave Toub. They will have big punt and kick returns because of his success as a ST coach. This will give there noodle armed QB a short field to work with and they will be able to score points as long as Charles can play. If they loose Charles it will be like the Jags game when he had to come out, no drives and no points.
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He got that because of his 3 sacks, not for his play vs the run vs the worst team in football.
The guy is a stud against the run. He's ****ing 270 pounds of beast **** monster mode.
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The guy is a stud against the run. He's ****ing 270 pounds of beast **** monster mode.
For a crap team playing another crap team. Congrats?
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For a crap team playing another crap team. Congrats?
I don't even know if the Jags qualify as a crap team. In fact, I'm not sure they qualify as a team. I feel like the Chiefs might have had a tougher game against a lingerie league team to be honest.
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He got that because of his 3 sacks, not for his play vs the run vs the worst team in football.
God you're dumb
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who is the CB #24? that guy is getting beat like a rented mule today.
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kFc has had a half full of SUCKAGE.

Charles is on pace to break off 16 yards vs Cowboys.
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Smith 12/23 for only 127 yards and 1 TD

kFc only 50% win percentage at AnalHead!
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kFc only 50% win percentage at AnalHead!
that's like 5 YPA, which would be a pretty good stat if it were the running game.
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Alex Smith has 49 yards rushing at the half. Maybe they traded for him because of his legs rather than his noodle arm?
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3:38 of the 3rd and Bowe with the drop
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