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Old 03-07-2017, 04:44 PM   #1
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8 broncos got them . Brandon Mcmanus and Z Anderson, Paradis really surprised me .

Matt Paradis was also one of eight players to receive an exclusive-rights tender as the new league year nears.

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Why would Paradis surprise you? There is nothing really wrong with his hips that are going to be a detriment moving forward in the near future.
He's had the issue since college.

Why can't we seem to let Ferentz go?
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Why would Paradis surprise you? There is nothing really wrong with his hips that are going to be a detriment moving forward in the near future.
He's had the issue since college.

Why can't we seem to let Ferentz go?
OK so I always get confused here. By giving them there tender that say they can shop the market right . Then we have the right to match the offer ?
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OK so I always get confused here. By giving them there tender that say they can shop the market right . Then we have the right to match the offer ?
Depends on the type of tender.

You have the exclusive rights tender and the early exclusive rights tender which mean only you can negotiate with them.
You have the restricted FA tenders which is when you tender them for certain rounds, other teams can negotiate with them and we can match or take the draft pick compensation depending upon the round tendered at.

Since CJ was tendered at the lowest tender which is the original round tender then since he was an UDFA then we would get nothing in return for him.
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Nope only RFA's can.

Doubt anyone goes after Davis or McManus for a 2nd rd pick.
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Depends on the type of tender.

You have the exclusive rights tender and the early exclusive rights tender which mean only you can negotiate with them.
You have the restricted FA tenders which is when you tender them for certain rounds, other teams can negotiate with them and we can match or take the draft pick compensation depending upon the round tendered at.

Since CJ was tendered at the lowest tender which is the original round tender then since he was an UDFA then we would get nothing in return for him.
Thanks . So if someone offers up a 2nd for Mcmanus can we still say no or is he gone ?
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Thanks . So if someone offers up a 2nd for Mcmanus can we still say no or is he gone ?
They offer McManus a contract. We either take on that contract, or get their second round pick.
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They offer McManus a contract. We either take on that contract, or get their second round pick.
Not that I think anyone would give a second for him , it would suck to loose a kicker like him
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Not that I think anyone would give a second for him , it would suck to loose a kicker like him
Broncos have been pretty lucky with kickers. Elam, to Prater to McManus. We even had Steven Hauska for a preseason. We had 1 rough 1/2 year when we first had McManus, but basically the last 24 years we have had good kickers.
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Thanks . So if someone offers up a 2nd for Mcmanus can we still say no or is he gone ?
We can choose to match it or take the compensation.

The high round tender is designed to suppress the market for the FA more and force a legitimate contract negotiation into play.

As ****ty as kickers are around the league, imagine some dumb ass team coming to McManus with a top 3 salary(4.5, 4.41 and 4.32 are the top cap hits)on a 4-5 year contract and he made 2.74 mil last year.

Of course he'd sign and without the tender we'd get nothing.
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Broncos have been pretty lucky with kickers. Elam, to Prater to McManus. We even had Steven Hauska for a preseason. We had 1 rough 1/2 year when we first had McManus, but basically the last 24 years we have had good kickers.
Barth was good too, his leg was just weak as ****.
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Barth was good too, his leg was just weak as ****.
We got him midseason though, hence the 1/2 season I mentioned in my post. Maybe it was only 1/4 of a season. It was a great signing, as it completely changed McManus.
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Indeed it did. Mother****er went from bad Mason Crosby to Automatica Gramatica.
It reminds me of Joaquin Benoit on the Mariners. He was not very good pitching there, but he helped Edwin Diaz figure out his slider, which made him an awesome closer last year. As annoying as it was for him to sting it up on the Mariners, then become amazing on Toronto, his time on the Mariners was worth it for his help to Diaz alone.
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What list? Norwood is a UFA. He made 800K last year.
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It reminds me of Joaquin Benoit on the Mariners. He was not very good pitching there, but he helped Edwin Diaz figure out his slider, which made him an awesome closer last year. As annoying as it was for him to sting it up on the Mariners, then become amazing on Toronto, his time on the Mariners was worth it for his help to Diaz alone.
Yeah, sometimes players even when they are not the best can help others become very good.
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I hope we don't settle for a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rate cast offs. Elway needs to find his balls this off season!
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I hope we don't settle for a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rate cast offs. Elway needs to find his balls this off season!
We need a strong ass draft. Especially at TE and OL.
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Yeah, sometimes players even when they are not the best can help others become very good.
Other times you have guys like Ware that are very good in their own right, and can help others like Barrett and Ray become pretty good. That is the goose that lays the golden egg.
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Other times you have guys like Ware that are very good in their own right, and can help others like Barrett and Ray become pretty good. That is the goose that lays the golden egg.
No, that's a controlled Midas touch.
I believe Campbell would have a similar effect on Gotsis and other DT's.
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No, that's a controlled Midas touch.
I believe Campbell would have a similar effect on Gotsis and other DT's.


I like this you have swayed me from Poe, and the guy is huge, can crunch a guard with his length, hands up knocking stuff down, picking stuff up and returning it for tds, he is what this defense is about.
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I like this you have swayed me from Poe, and the guy is huge, can crunch a guard with his length, hands up knocking stuff down, picking stuff up and returning it for tds, he is what this defense is about.
I want Poe as well but he'll cost too much and won't provide nearly the impact of Campbell.
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Not that I think anyone would give a second for him , it would suck to loose a kicker like him
I would gladly let someone elses undrafted kicker that we aquired for 600,000, go for a second round pick. I doubt it is likely either.

Edit: A guy we once waived ourselves.

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I want Poe as well but he'll cost too much and won't provide nearly the impact of Campbell.
That's the tipper for me..as a position, Poe. Teamwide effect, Campbell.
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I want Poe as well but he'll cost too much and won't provide nearly the impact of Campbell.
If it comes down to getting Campbell on the DL and sticking with Siemian for another year, or getting Tony Romo (assuming Romo and Campbell are each around 12 million per year) I'd take Campbell. Then again, I've been a fan of Siemian and think he did well considering the horrid Oline and run game he had.
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That's the tipper for me..as a position, Poe. Teamwide effect, Campbell.
For me, I feel like there are a multitude of quality NT's in this draft. No reason to overspend in FA for one.
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