Tim Tebow got a raw deal in Denver - The Orange Mane

BroncoBuff · 03-20-2012, 03:17 PM

Like Tebow or don't like Tebow, doesn't matter - he was treated very poorly here. Let's recap:

- First, pre-draft with all the talk about changing his mechanics, throwing motion, gotta believe he'd be a low-pressure 3rd rounder, have some time to learn. But Josh reaches - trades up to draft him at 25. But that's okay, no pressure, Josh was his #1 booster, he believed in Tebow. Believed just enough to park the kid's butt. Tebow threw just ONE pass in the 12 games McDaniels was coach, compared to 80+ the last 4 post-Josh.

- Last off-season, March-April, Elway says something like "we're giving him thge ball," or "it's his job to lose," something to that effect. Strike ends, camp starts, and 2-3 days in he's demoted. Demoted in the most wishy-washy p.r. fiasco way possible. Sounded like he wasn't even kept in the loop.

- Then after Orton crumbles, Tebow delivers the win streak! On December 21, in the throes of Tebow-mania, Elway: "Tim Tebow's not going anywhere. I mean, he's going to be a Bronco and we're going to do everything we can and hopefully he's that guy."

- Then Tebow delivers the Steelers miracle ... and Elway said just 23 days ago: "I was really happy with his progress. We’re hoping he’s going to be the guy for a long, long time.” Not just a "long" time, but a "long, long" time.

And now "long long" doesn't even merit backup status to Manning ... and the trade talk is a mere 5th rounder.

Like Tebow or not, he got screwed here.

gotfredson · 03-20-2012, 03:20 PM

Dumbass

RhymesayersDU · 03-20-2012, 03:21 PM

So he's no longer a virgin, heeeeeeyyyyooooooooo.

baja · 03-20-2012, 03:21 PM

I am a big big fan of Tebow but when you get a shot at Manning and it costs only money it's hard to say no to that.

It's a game changer.

prunch · 03-20-2012, 03:22 PM

Tim Tebow got to play QB in the NFL.
Tim Tebow got to play QB in 2 postseason games.
Tim Tebow got enough exposure to be a marketing brand up with Tiger Woods at his prime.
Tim Tebow will still get to play in the NFL.
Tim Tebow was paid millions of dollars.

Tim Tebow, and I love him to death, is gonna be ok. The terms by which you exist in the NFL are well known to all before entering.

I wish him the best but if this is the worst thing that ever happens to him, he is in for one hell of a life.

BroncoMan4ever · 03-20-2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Like Tebow or don't like Tebow, doesn't matter - he was treated very poorly here. Let's recap:

- First, pre-draft with all the talk about changing his mechanics, throwing motion, gotta believe he'd be a low-pressure 3rd rounder, have some time to learn. But Josh reaches - trades up to draft him at 25. But that's okay, no pressure, Josh was his #1 booster, he believed in Tebow. Believed just enough to park the kid's butt. Tebow threw just ONE pass in the 12 games McDaniels was coach, compared to 80+ the last 4 post-Josh.

- Last off-season, March-April, Elway says something like "we're giving him thge ball," or "it's his job to lose," something to that effect. Strike ends, camp starts, and 2-3 days in he's demoted. Demoted in the most wishy-washy p.r. fiasco way possible. Sounded like he wasn't even kept in the loop.

- Then after Orton crumbles, Tebow delivers the win streak! On December 21, in the throes of Tebow-mania, Elway: "Tim Tebow's not going anywhere. I mean, he's going to be a Bronco and we're going to do everything we can and hopefully he's that guy."

- Then Tebow delivers the Steelers miracle ... and Elway said just 23 days ago: "I was really happy with his progress. We’re hoping he’s going to be the guy for a long, long time.” Not just a "long" time, but a "long, long" time.

And now "long long" doesn't even merit backup status to Manning ... and the trade talk is a mere 5th rounder.

Like Tebow or not, he got screwed here.

the Broncos paid him over 10 million. he can cry on his jesus shaped pillow for all i care.

it is a business, and business is best when you are winning championships and sadly a guy who can't complete 50% of his passes won't win championships.

Anikai · 03-20-2012, 03:22 PM

g00fyfoot · 03-20-2012, 03:24 PM

Tim will be fine. He doesn't need to be coddled. Life isn't fair. Get over it.

SonOfLe-loLang · 03-20-2012, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prunch

Tim Tebow got to play QB in the NFL.
Tim Tebow got to play QB in 2 postseason games.
Tim Tebow got enough exposure to be a marketing brand up with Tiger Woods at his prime.
Tim Tebow will still get to play in the NFL.
Tim Tebow was paid millions of dollars.

Tim Tebow, and I love him to death, is gonna be ok. The terms by which you exist in the NFL are well known to all before entering.

I wis him the best but if this is the worst thing that ever happens to him, he is in for one hell of a life.

ha yeah seriously

orangeatheist · 03-20-2012, 03:26 PM

Tebow's gonna say, true to form, that he thanks Jesus for the opportunity to play with such a great team as the Denver Broncos and that everything is in God's hands. God has a plan and that plan appears to not include the Denver Broncos. He's gonna walk the walk and not be a hypocrite. Why can't you?

DomCasual · 03-20-2012, 03:26 PM

If the NFL was fair, then I would agree. But if I had a nickel for every guy in the NFL who had ever gotten a raw deal, then I would have a lot of nickles.

He's a good guy. I can't begin to understand why he seems to bring out the worst in some of his fans. But he deserves a great life. And I would bet that he'll get it.

Truly, in an ideal world, I'd love it if he stayed here for the next 2-3 years, and was groomed, a la Steve Young. But I don't think he wants that.

BroncoBuff · 03-20-2012, 03:27 PM

I'm not a Tebow guy, never thought he had an NFL skill set. But still ... just statin' the facts here.

And baja, I agree on Manning. But now Tebow's not even a backup?! And we're peddling him for a 5th rounder?!?!?

How soon we forget .......

John should be somewhat embarrassed.

baja · 03-20-2012, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I'm not a Tebow guy, never thought he had an NFL skill set. But still ... just statin' the facts here.

And baja, I agree on Manning. But now Tebow's not even a backup?! And we're peddling him for a 5th rounder?!?!?

How soon we forget .......

John should be somewhat embarrassed.

That's not confirmed. He could very well be our backup.

BroncoBen · 03-20-2012, 03:30 PM

*Sigh*... again with this thread.. its been played out.

BroncoBuff · 03-20-2012, 03:32 PM

Your GM says you're gonna be the guy for "a long, long time," then starts shopping you for a 5th rounder 2 frickin' weeks later?

And that's okay with everybody? Really?!

Greatspirits · 03-20-2012, 03:32 PM

I've been one of the biggest Tebow supporters out there but its the big leagues and the bottom line is winning Super Bowls. He's a big boy and he'll move on, I don't feel he got shafted in any way, he just wasn't what EFX was looking for in a QB

orangeatheist · 03-20-2012, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Your GM says you're gonna be the guy for "a long, long time," then starts shopping you for a 5th rounder 2 frickin' weeks later?

And that's okay with everybody? Really?!

You forgot to insert the minor detail of the Manning signing between "starter" and "shopping." Sort of a game changer, don't you think?

Jekyll15Hyde · 03-20-2012, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeatheist

Tebow's gonna say, true to form, that he thanks Jesus for the opportunity to play with such a great team as the Denver Broncos and that everything is in God's hands. God has a plan and that plan appears to not include the Denver Broncos. He's gonna walk the walk and not be a hypocrite. Why can't you?

of course he wont question why god told him something different the last time.

Mountain Bronco · 03-20-2012, 03:34 PM

Tebow would be a great back up, I would love to see him learn under Manning for 3-4 years as it is what Tim really needs in order to be a great QB down the road. I think that Tim could even buy into that. It is his fanboys that the Broncos need to get rid of, because the Broncos doesn't want a freaking billboard every time Manning has a bad game (and it will happen) nor that distraction.

baja · 03-20-2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Your GM says you're gonna be the guy for "a long, long time," then starts shopping you for a 5th rounder 2 frickin' weeks later?

And that's okay with everybody? Really?!

Once again there has been no decision on Tebow's future.

HILife · 03-20-2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

So he's no longer a virgin, heeeeeeyyyyooooooooo.

DBroncos4life · 03-20-2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I'm not a Tebow guy, never thought he had an NFL skill set. But still ... just statin' the facts here.

And baja, I agree on Manning. But now Tebow's not even a backup?! And we're peddling him for a 5th rounder?!?!?

How soon we forget .......

John should be somewhat embarrassed.

Even if that 5th round crap is true, it would only be because NO other team thinks he is worth more. That says a lot.

Beantown Bronco · 03-20-2012, 03:37 PM

A raw deal? Huh?

They drafted him higher than anyone else would've and paid him more than anyone else would've. They allowed him to be an NFL QB when nobody else did. They're dangling him out there to anyone who wants him right now.....and nobody is jumping at the chance to make him their starting QB.....or even their backup QB. Even though his cap hit is near the league minimum.

We gave him a far better deal than anyone else did (or is). Think about it. If it was that raw a deal, every other team would be jumping all over the chance to sign him now for nothing. They're not.

orangeatheist · 03-20-2012, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mountain Bronco

Tebow would be a great back up, I would love to see him learn under Manning for 3-4 years as it is what Tim really needs in order to be a great QB down the road. I think that Tim could even buy into that. It is his fanboys that the Broncos need to get rid of, because the Broncos doesn't want a freaking billboard every time Manning has a bad game (and it will happen) nor that distraction.

x10

db56 · 03-20-2012, 03:38 PM

yeah, he was clearly undervalued and mistreated by this FO. all the knuckleheads are saying its the NFL and he isnt owed anything and that is idiotic, he clearly has earned his keep based off what he did last season but whatever. I hope he stays and learns a few things from old greybeard and is ready to go when he get his chance but I dont blame him for moving on.

either way, now that I've calmed down and reality has set in, it is what it is. Manning is a HOF QB and a good guy and I'm not going to cry about it, its over..

03-20-2012, 03:22 PM	#5
prunch Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 358 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Tim Tebow got to play QB in the NFL. Tim Tebow got to play QB in 2 postseason games. Tim Tebow got enough exposure to be a marketing brand up with Tiger Woods at his prime. Tim Tebow will still get to play in the NFL. Tim Tebow was paid millions of dollars. Tim Tebow, and I love him to death, is gonna be ok. The terms by which you exist in the NFL are well known to all before entering. I wish him the best but if this is the worst thing that ever happens to him, he is in for one hell of a life. Last edited by prunch; 03-20-2012 at 03:27 PM.. Reason: typo

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03-20-2012, 03:17 PM	#1
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Tim Tebow got a raw deal in Denver Like Tebow or don't like Tebow, doesn't matter - he was treated very poorly here. Let's recap: - First, pre-draft with all the talk about changing his mechanics, throwing motion, gotta believe he'd be a low-pressure 3rd rounder, have some time to learn. But Josh reaches - trades up to draft him at 25. But that's okay, no pressure, Josh was his #1 booster, he believed in Tebow. Believed just enough to park the kid's butt. Tebow threw just ONE pass in the 12 games McDaniels was coach, compared to 80+ the last 4 post-Josh. - Last off-season, March-April, Elway says something like "we're giving him thge ball," or "it's his job to lose," something to that effect. Strike ends, camp starts, and 2-3 days in he's demoted. Demoted in the most wishy-washy p.r. fiasco way possible. Sounded like he wasn't even kept in the loop. - Then after Orton crumbles, Tebow delivers the win streak! On December 21, in the throes of Tebow-mania, Elway: "Tim Tebow's not going anywhere. I mean, he's going to be a Bronco and we're going to do everything we can and hopefully he's that guy." - Then Tebow delivers the Steelers miracle ... and Elway said just 23 days ago: "I was really happy with his progress. We’re hoping he’s going to be the guy for a long, long time.” Not just a "long" time, but a *"long, long" time*. And now "long long" doesn't even merit backup status to Manning ... and the trade talk is a mere 5th rounder. Like Tebow or not, he got screwed here.

03-20-2012, 03:20 PM	#2
gotfredson Solid Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 151	Dumbass

03-20-2012, 03:21 PM	#3
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	So he's no longer a virgin, heeeeeeyyyyooooooooo.

03-20-2012, 03:21 PM	#4
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,763 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I am a big big fan of Tebow but when you get a shot at Manning and it costs only money it's hard to say no to that. It's a game changer.

03-20-2012, 03:22 PM	#7
Anikai PUP List The 4th Generation Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NFC West Posts: 225 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith

03-20-2012, 03:24 PM	#8
g00fyfoot Seasoned Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5280' Posts: 357	Tim will be fine. He doesn't need to be coddled. Life isn't fair. Get over it.

03-20-2012, 03:26 PM	#10
orangeatheist Champion of the Godless Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,012	Tebow's gonna say, true to form, that he thanks Jesus for the opportunity to play with such a great team as the Denver Broncos and that everything is in God's hands. God has a plan and that plan appears to not include the Denver Broncos. He's gonna walk the walk and not be a hypocrite. Why can't you?

03-20-2012, 03:26 PM	#11
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	If the NFL was fair, then I would agree. But if I had a nickel for every guy in the NFL who had ever gotten a raw deal, then I would have a lot of nickles. He's a good guy. I can't begin to understand why he seems to bring out the worst in some of his fans. But he deserves a great life. And I would bet that he'll get it. Truly, in an ideal world, I'd love it if he stayed here for the next 2-3 years, and was groomed, a la Steve Young. But I don't think he wants that.

03-20-2012, 03:27 PM	#12
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	I'm not a Tebow guy, never thought he had an NFL skill set. But still ... just statin' the facts here. And baja, I agree on Manning. But now Tebow's not even a backup?! And we're peddling him for a *5th rounder?!?!?* How soon we forget ....... John should be somewhat embarrassed.

03-20-2012, 03:30 PM	#14
BroncoBen Ring of Famer 38-35 double-overtime loss to Balt Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,464	Sigh... again with this thread.. its been played out.

03-20-2012, 03:32 PM	#15
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Your GM says you're gonna be the guy for "a long, long time," then starts shopping you for a 5th rounder 2 frickin' weeks later? And that's okay with everybody? Really?!

03-20-2012, 03:32 PM	#16
Greatspirits Pro Bowler Bridge of Sighs Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Park Hill Posts: 596 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steven Johnson	I've been one of the biggest Tebow supporters out there but its the big leagues and the bottom line is winning Super Bowls. He's a big boy and he'll move on, I don't feel he got shafted in any way, he just wasn't what EFX was looking for in a QB

03-20-2012, 03:34 PM	#19
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,446	Tebow would be a great back up, I would love to see him learn under Manning for 3-4 years as it is what Tim really needs in order to be a great QB down the road. I think that Tim could even buy into that. It is his fanboys that the Broncos need to get rid of, because the Broncos doesn't want a freaking billboard every time Manning has a bad game (and it will happen) nor that distraction.

03-20-2012, 03:37 PM	#23
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,039 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	A raw deal? Huh? They drafted him higher than anyone else would've and paid him more than anyone else would've. They allowed him to be an NFL QB when nobody else did. They're dangling him out there to anyone who wants him right now.....and nobody is jumping at the chance to make him their starting QB.....or even their backup QB. Even though his cap hit is near the league minimum. We gave him a far better deal than anyone else did (or is). Think about it. If it was that raw a deal, every other team would be jumping all over the chance to sign him now for nothing. They're not.

03-20-2012, 03:38 PM	#25
db56 Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 281	yeah, he was clearly undervalued and mistreated by this FO. all the knuckleheads are saying its the NFL and he isnt owed anything and that is idiotic, he clearly has earned his keep based off what he did last season but whatever. I hope he stays and learns a few things from old greybeard and is ready to go when he get his chance but I dont blame him for moving on. either way, now that I've calmed down and reality has set in, it is what it is. Manning is a HOF QB and a good guy and I'm not going to cry about it, its over..