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Old 03-19-2012, 10:58 PM   #1
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Default Peyton Manning will be thirty-six years old with three neck surgeries in the past 12 months

Why are people so excited?

I've seen the term "Hall of Fame QB!" tossed about, but what does that actually mean right now? You get into the Hall of Fame largely by what you do in your prime -- which Manning no longer is in, nevermind the ultra-sensitive neck surgeries or bum arm. Historically, not a single QB in Manning's age group has shown up on another team and taken them to the Superbowl. Not a single one. And there have been some good ones in the past, and ones on comparatively much better squads than what Denver is fielding right now.

I see this move as nothing more than another very damaging, two-to-three year crater. Denver needs to build up to get to where it wants to be. Manning is a glorified band aid -- and one so seemingly ready to be torn off at any second -- and for the umpteenth time in so few years people are rallying behind an idea so obviously doomed to failure.

I'm simply sick of it. Denver is not San Francisco. They're not on some precipice ready to launch. You think Denver's squad has a remote shot against Baltimore and New England? Get real. This team still has building to do -- only one year removed from picking #2 for goodness sake.

Griese, Plummer, Cutler, Orton, Tebow, Manning in how many years? Sounds like the damn Browns to me, and that's certainly what Denver's record shows for. I will continue to root for the team, but the FO is full of shortsighted, twinkle-eyed morons as far as I'm concerned and this will end as well as every other management disaster in the past decade.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:01 PM   #2
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I've seen this very topic somewhere before...oh yeah...every other thread on the mane.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:03 PM   #3
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For **** sake. People forget that Manning was on pace to BREAK Brett Favre's starting streak before missing last year.

He hadn't missed a game in his entire career before that.

SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT THE INJURY **** YOU ****ING PARANOID ****S
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:05 PM   #5
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I heard peyton manning is old and injury prone. I should make a post on the orangemane about it
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No, really.
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Actually IIRC it is four neck surgeries..
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For **** sake. People forget that Manning was on pace to BREAK Brett Favre's starting streak before missing last year.

He hadn't missed a game in his entire career before that.

SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT THE INJURY **** YOU ****ING PARANOID ****S
Great.

PEYTON MANNING WAS HEALTHY BEFORE HE WASN'T!!!!
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For **** sake. People forget that Manning was on pace to BREAK Brett Favre's starting streak before missing last year.

He hadn't missed a game in his entire career before that.

SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT THE INJURY **** YOU ****ING PARANOID ****S
On pace... until he had three neck surgeries in a row.

I'm looking for a good discussion, not twinkle-eyed recounts of Manning's career.

Thank you.
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I heard peyton manning is old and injury prone. I should make a post on the orangemane about it
I'm surprised it hasn't been a topic thus far...odd
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I will admit we were the belle of the ball last year and may get the same attn this year. I don't think we signed him to rebuild. We are signing manning to win the Lombardi again and hell bring light years of experience and knowledge to this clubhouse for years to come...who wouldn't want that? Now forget about his injuries and go settle your nerves in some other fashion...we have goats milk to drink.
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On pace... until he had three neck surgeries in a row.

I'm looking for a good discussion, not twinkle-eyed recounts of Manning's career.

Thank you.
Well you didn't start it off on a great note...
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On pace... until he had three neck surgeries in a row.

I'm looking for a good discussion, not twinkle-eyed recounts of Manning's career.

Thank you.
You're not looking for discussion. Your looking for:

A. Another tedious argument
b. People like Bronco Beavis to back you up
c.To start a thread.

You may not like his point, but he does have one. At least Beavis bothered to counter his point instead of dismiss it.
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You're not looking for discussion. Your looking for:

A. Another tedious argument
b. People like Bronco Beavis to back you up
c.To start a thread.

You may not like his point, but he does have one. At least Beavis bothered to counter his point instead of dismiss it.
His point was irrelevant.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:20 PM   #16
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I can see why people are worried about the risk. All we can do is watch it play out. Of course people are excited though, if Manning healthy we are going to be very tough to beat. He seriously gets rid of ball 2 seconds faster then Tebow. That is so huge for an offense.

DT if he stays healthy is going to catch 80 balls or more, for 1200 yrds or more, and probably 10 plus tds.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:25 PM   #17
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Uhm... If he gets hurt, I'm sure Denver is protected. So why would it even matter really?

I honestly think we're in a 100% better situation BECAUSE he's been injured recently. I bet it reduced his price, and has injury clauses to protect us.
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Well you didn't start it off on a great note...
I thought I made some ground for discussion with Manning's long year of injuries; the history of this kind of move in the NFL; Denver's inability to compete with New England, Baltimore and arguably Cincy/Houston right now. There is no discussion of a change of offensive outlook for Manning, even. Why is nobody discussing the dramatic difference in the Colts' o-line to what Denver has? Why nothing about the receiving talent? Manning can do a lot if he's healthy, but he has had an offense completely suited to him for the past decade. Decker and DT are not Wayne; Fells is not Clark; Denver's pass blocking is damn sure nowhere near the Colts'. And Denver is naturally not a perfect pitched indoor stadium. These things are kind of important to take into consideration before selling the farm (again).
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NUB its a good sign though that all the teams that saw him throw and gave him a physical wanted to sign him. Also we didnt give up picks so really not a big deal in terms of him getting injured. There is an injury clause in contract from what i heard.

So really unless Manning gets injured, and Tebow goes on to start and win in the NFL we are good.

Do you really see any team starting Tebow?
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NUB its a good sign though that all the teams that saw him throw and gave him a physical wanted to sign him. Also we didnt give up picks so really not a big deal in terms of him getting injured. There is an injury clause in contract from what i heard.

So really unless Manning gets injured, and Tebow goes on to start and win in the NFL we are good.

Do you really see any team starting Tebow?
Tebow could start on a number of teams, the question is whether or not they would want to keep their own project-QBs. Tebow could easily start on the Browns, Jaguars and arguably the Vikings. The Vikings/Jaguars would be good places for Tebow -- inconsistent as he is passing, does anybody else thing McGahee runs all year without the run-option? I don't. As far as I'm concerned Denver's run-game is back to a question mark without the running threat from Tebow.

Edit: Injury or no-reinjury, if Manning does not win playoff games then Denver has simply hit the reset button for the third time in about five years. That's what is most important and why I asked if anybody thought Denver could compete with the best AFC teams right now.

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"We just signed a sure fire hall of fame quarterback and signalled to the world that we're pushing for a Superbowl NOW. Why is everybody excited?"
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Because "sure fire Hall of Famer" is an empty platitude when trying to discuss reality. Winning right now? Yeah, that's exciting. I hope Denver pulls it off.
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