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Old 03-19-2012, 01:42 PM   #1
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Now that we've landed Manning, how strongly should we consider trading away our first round draft pick to bring in Mike Wallace? To be honest, I'm still on the fence. I think we definitely need the dynamic weapon at offense, but our D still has holes to fill. I would lead more to bringing him in simply because I don't think we get a Mike Wallace caliber player at #25.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:43 PM   #2
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Still on the fence, here. Best option at the moment, but I think we could make a move for Brockers or Kirkpatrick.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:44 PM   #3
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Won't surprise me one bit.
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it's apparently not happening, but I think it's a no-brainer. I keep saying it, and I'll keep saying it until the Steelers lock him up.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:47 PM   #6
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I hope we use the first on BPA. I just don't get a good feeling out of blowing the bankroll now in the hopes that we win the SB in the next couple years. It's not working out well for the Eagles.

I liked the direction we were going of young cheap players and getting the max value out of them, we need to keep that up.
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Manning made mediocre WRs look solid to great. We have some talent at WR. I think we'll be fine. I wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Stokley back, considering his comfort-level with Manning. But assuming Decker will be back at 100%, I would rather use our draft to go after bigger needs.
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I hope we use the first on BPA. I just don't get a good feeling out of blowing the bankroll now in the hopes that we win the SB in the next couple years. It's not working out well for the Eagles.

I liked the direction we were going of young cheap players and getting the max value out of them, we need to keep that up.
Wallace is 25. He is the best player available.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:49 PM   #9
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Manning made mediocre WRs look solid to great. We have some talent at WR. I think we'll be fine. I wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Stokley back, considering his comfort-level with Manning. But assuming Decker will be back at 100%, I would rather use our draft to go after bigger needs.
Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison were not mediocre. Jesus Christ...
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:52 PM   #10
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Either him OR we sign Stokely to play our slot with Decker and Thomas on the outside.

I'm thinking the later is more likely.

Wallace would be ****ing insane though...but I'd rather have us saved the 1st and kept Royal.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:53 PM   #11
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Wallace is 25. He is the best player available.
I think he will cost too much. Pus we have way bigger needs now that we have a pretty fragile situation at qb that we need to protect at all costs.
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Wallace is 25. He is the best player available.
It's a move that makes a lot of sense honestly. I mean they just signed Manning so they are banking first and foremost on offense to win them games. Mike Wallace is almost certainly the best offensive weapon they can get for the 25th overall pick, and he's already fully developed as a receiver. I'm still utterly horrified at this "win now" crap, but if you're going to do it, Wallace is your best bet. And hell, he isn't old and nearly used up so it isn't actually bad for our long-term future.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:53 PM   #13
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I get a chubby thinking about Manning to Joe Adams in the slot .......
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Schefter shot this down earlier.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:55 PM   #15
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Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison were not mediocre. Jesus Christ...
I don't think they were either.

But...

...Austin Collie and the Hernandez dude sure looked like studs with PM throwing to them.

I think a great QB makes the whole team better.

From the line - gets rid of the ball quicker takes some pressure off of them- to the wide outs. Even the defense. The SB defenses for Denver in the 90's benefitted from playing with a lot of leads because of a juggernaut offense.

All Bronco fans are hoping the Manning has it in the tank to do just that with this team.
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**** no. He's a decent receiver, but for a 2-3 round pick.
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Manning made mediocre WRs look solid to great. We have some talent at WR. I think we'll be fine. I wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Stokley back, considering his comfort-level with Manning. But assuming Decker will be back at 100%, I would rather use our draft to go after bigger needs.
This.

We need DT's. We need trench work. Everything else can wait.
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Wallace is 25. He is the best player available.
No he isn't. He's a middle tier receiver at best.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:08 PM   #19
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We need DT's. We need trench work. Everything else can wait.
Well, therein lies the problem. We are in a situation now where we have a qb who has maybe up to 5 good years left, so we don't really have the time now to develop too many key players.

I would lie if I said I wasn't concerned about us getting PM. It seems like a pardigm shift from last year when we were all about having young raw talent while benefitting our cap space. Now, it seems like we have shifted into win now mode which I find concerning for the future.
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No he isn't. He's a middle tier receiver at best.
you're dumb as a rock.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:14 PM   #21
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No he isn't. He's a middle tier receiver at best.
Not even a little bit
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:16 PM   #22
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Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison were not mediocre. Jesus Christ...
So, are you saying Jesus Christ was or wasn't mediocre? I'm confused.

Sometimes, I think you try to be an a-hole for being an a-hole's sake.

Are these guys great WRs, dumbass?

Sean Dawkins
Torrance Small
Jerome Pathon
Terrance Wilkins
Ken Dilger (TE)
Brandon Stokley
Anthony Gonzalez
Austin Collie
Pierre Garcon
Jacob Tamme (TE)

Those are all guys that had decent to solid seasons (minimum 500 yards and a handful of TDs), catching passes from Peyton Manning. I'm not going to go back and take the time to research guys that had great individual games filling in for Harrison and Wayne when they were injured (Blaire White most recently comes to mind), but that would be further evidence.

Marvin Harrison hasn't really played since 2006 (he was injured and/or ineffective in 2007 and 2008). Reggie Wayne didn't show up until Manning's fourth or fifth year. Somehow, Manning survived in those other years. And he's gotten crazy numbers from his 3rd/Slot WRs.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:19 PM   #24
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Wallace is known as a deep threat so I wonder if Manning can throw a deep ball yet? He might be able to hit precision balls but if he tries to wing it and it goes lame, that may not be an aspect of the offense.

And we're all assuming Peyton means win now but maybe they just wanted out of Tebowmania enough that they're willing to pay the extra money.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:31 PM   #25
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Hell no. We have other needs.
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