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Old 03-18-2012, 04:08 PM   #751
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That's not what he said, he said he doesn't ask his employees' opinions on whom he employs.

And come on, you're an intelligent person. Is it really without precedent in the NFL for a team to say to a player "we're replacing you, you and your agent can start soliciting trade offers?" When you get "replaced" in the real world, your company usually doesn't get compensation from your future employer.
I was just teasing. You always ask your key employees opinion and include them in a portion of process. In the real world.

I think it would have been the right thing to do for the Broncos to be made aware. But his agency probably did, literally minutes after the Broncos inquired about Manning!
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:08 PM   #752
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Why does he deserve credit? He isn't the coach or the GM. He knows little about personnel matters or modern NFL contracts. He isn't an expert on running backs or pass rushers. Those things would fall under Fox and Xanders far more yes? I guess he signed off on the moves, but you're crazy if you think they were his brainchild.
According to Xander's he wasn't making the GM decisions before either. Xander's cannot scout for ****.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:09 PM   #753
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Err...I think you're missing the whole "bold faced lying to him and not communicating with him through this whole Manning affair" thing. But that's not important right?
Does Tebow have a phone?
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:10 PM   #754
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More like 12 years. Peyton had a pretty rough first 16 games. Had a lower QB rating than Tim Tebow does, in fact. Mostly because he led the league in interceptions. Then he missed his 14th season. Otherwise known as last year.
Fair enough.

That is still enough to get him in the HOF. Mind you I don't like Manning, I think he is pass happy and it hurts him in the playoffs but we would be a better team with a healthy Manning than a young inconsistent Tebow.
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Willis McGahee and Von Miller were both on the field. Do they get any credit?
Evidamdently not, according to the clown posse of nuthuggers......
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:11 PM   #756
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Macgahee was hurt down the stretch all the time and Miller disappeared after he got the cast. Not even close.
and we finished the season 1-4. imagine that.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:11 PM   #757
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Why should they? Is he writing the checks? Fox is already on record saying he wants 2 new QB's to compete with Tebo. Payton Manning is the biggest freeagent to hit the open market in the history of the NFL. It's not like it's Matt Cassel or Donavon Mcnabb. I honestly dont think Tebo made any of these statements anyway it's just the media drumming up a story.
Exactly HOW is signing Manning increasing the QB competition I do agree that until I hear it from Tebow's mouth, I don't believe that he's made these statements.

If they sign Manning for $20M+ per year, he better be the starter, hands down!

If they sign two other QB's and the three will "actually compete" then that's fair and Tebow and everyone else will say so.

But IF the FO didn't tell Tebow anything, then they get what they get...

Ultimately...

NO Manning.

Perhaps NO Tebow.

A rookie or has-been QB.

No advancement in FA.

Same ole, same ole...Well under .500 season in 2012. But heck, their fans continue to pay up on ticket increases and they still get revenue sharing, so life's good. We want to build through the draft...the best way is to have high draft picks, right?
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:12 PM   #758
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I was just teasing. You always ask your key employees opinion and include them in a portion of process. In the real world.

I think it would have been the right thing to do for the Broncos to be made aware. But his agency probably did, literally minutes after the Broncos inquired about Manning!
Dude probably put the call on speakerphone so Tebow's agent could hear.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:12 PM   #759
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Wonder if NE would trade for Mallet straight up?
That would be an interesting proposition. The guy has the biggest arm in the league. His brain, when last heard from, was functioning at or below Jeff George level, unfortunately.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:13 PM   #760
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According to Xander's he wasn't making the GM decisions before either. Xander's cannot scout for ****.
Even if that's true, we're going to give the credit to a former QB with no personnel experience over a defensive coach of many decades? Okay...
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What happened the last three games of the regular season? Especially Buffalo. That was an ass whoopin'.
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Err...I think you're missing the whole "bold faced lying to him and not communicating with him through this whole Manning affair" thing. But that's not important right?
No. It's not.

And the team directly lied to Cutler as well. Hell, the owner directly lied to Cutler.

Tebow is a QB that this regime did not draft. He does not fit their profile. No other team in the NFL wants him, and he has not improved an iota since he came into the league. He cannot read a defense or throw a short or intermediate ball. Despite all that, we tailored an entire offense to him in the middle of the season, which I guess was not enough for King Tebow and his cult. After this, Peyton Manning--who has more QB ability in his cock than Tebow has displayed in his entire life--became available and expressed an interest in the team. You'll excuses me for not giving a **** what Tim Tebow thinks about the situation. Should they give him a courtesy call? Yeah, probably. Is it a deal breaker? For a player with no leverage? Give me a break.
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“@hofstetter303: @dmac1043 please tell me this PM crap will be resolved by Monday!! Tired of this nonsense.”IMO he's a Titan monday

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Dbag is a blithering idiot. If he's tired of stalking peyton manning, the answer is quite simple. Stop stalking him.
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What happened the last three games of the regular season? Especially Buffalo. That was an ass whoopin'.
Or the KFC game that we lost 3-7...
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What happened the last three games of the regular season? Especially Buffalo. That was an ass whoopin'.
Tebow happened
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Strange. In the KC loss, we had 145 yards rushing (McGahee) and only 60 passing.
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Tebow happened


Dennis Allen happened...just ask Seattle....
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Why does he deserve credit? He isn't the coach or the GM. He knows little about personnel matters or modern NFL contracts. He isn't an expert on running backs or pass rushers. Those things would fall under Fox and Xanders far more yes? I guess he signed off on the moves, but you're crazy if you think they were his brainchild.
So why are you ripping Elway if he has nothing to do with the personnel moves?
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Evidamdently not, according to the clown posse of nuthuggers......
Why to both sides of this say the exact opposite thing??

Tebow haters: Denver wins because of Von Miller and Willis McGahee.

Tebow lovers: Denver wins because of Tim Tebow.

How do you all not understand that it's a TEAM game. They win or lose with how each plays on a particular day. They won because of x-player(s) argument is dumb. Try a better argument.
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Strange. In the KC loss, we had 145 yards rushing (McGahee) and only 60 passing.
Cherry picking. For losers with flimsy positions.
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So why are you ripping Elway if he has nothing to do with the personnel moves?
Because he is the big picture guy and fixated on the QB situation. And the big picture and QB situation currently look like a giant canvas of ****.
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What happened the last three games of the regular season? Especially Buffalo. That was an ass whoopin'.
The lucky breaks, pick 6's, ST TD's and Tebow gimmick wore off.
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Tebow happened
Some would say tape happened too!
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Even if that's true, we're going to give the credit to a former QB with no personnel experience over a defensive coach of many decades? Okay...
Oh I do believe fox has his fingerprints over this team. But I can't see Xander's. He's always been a capologist. Numbers guy. And now he's lost that job to arguably one of the best cap gurus around. I really dont know what Xander's does. I wanted de costa.
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