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Old 03-13-2012, 07:51 PM   #1
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He's chasing Manning, who will probably command more than $20 million a season. I can't see how you could still think he's cheap after following the Manning saga unfold.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:54 PM   #2
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chasing and signing are two different things....

if we sign PM, maybe i'll be more open to giving out kudos...
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He's chasing Manning, who will probably command more than $20 million a season. I can't see how you could still think he's cheap after following the Manning saga unfold.
Umm..how bout because its sort of a one time deal and that even if they signed him for 20m, they would still be MORE than 20m below the cap and over the course of like 12 years, he's only spent a lot of money relative to the rest of the league like 2 times and he's averaged somewhere around 20th in the league over that span.

So yeah...he's a cheapskate...even with Manning. I'm not sure how one signing magically changes like 12 years of history.
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As vjack, finnegan, and carr drop off the board...
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He's chasing Manning, who will probably command more than $20 million a season. I can't see how you could still think he's cheap after following the Manning saga unfold.
There are talks of him paying Manning a 4 year 90 mil...with 45 mil guarantee. He is not cheap... now,... he has gone full retard.
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Please, let's see the action first.

Right now....who have we signed?

Hear that bird? Cheap, cheap, cheap goes Bowlen!

Let's see him sign Manning and make a few other moves first.

Color me pestimistic!

PS. Who have we signed already?
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Umm..how bout because its sort of a one time deal and that even if they signed him for 20m, they would still be MORE than 20m below the cap and over the course of like 12 years, he's only spent a lot of money relative to the rest of the league like 2 times and he's averaged somewhere around 20th in the league over that span.

So yeah...he's a cheapskate...even with Manning. I'm not sure how one signing magically changes like 12 years of history.
12 years? Come on, the cheap thing started 5 years ago at the worst. Bowlen was throwing money after money at the problem in the early parts of the last decade.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:58 PM   #8
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The fact that we are 40 million under the cap and pursuing one guy is pissing me off a bit.

I know you don't want to go overboard in FA but still, this team needs some talent.

We are not 1 crippled Peyton and some rookies away from a Superbowl IMO.
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Im watching many FAs get overpaid today I don't think hes cheap I think hes just smart.

The best FAs aka the value guys will come in the next few days.
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12 years? Come on, the cheap thing started 5 years ago at the worst. Bowlen was throwing money after money at the problem in the early parts of the last decade.
No it didn't start five years ago. I've posted the data numerous times. Use the search function and type in USA Today Salary Database. I went through it in massive detail. There's a massive year (2002), one other really good year, one ok year and the rest are WAY below average. You don't need like 8 or 9 way below average years to simply "make up" for the dead money effects of two really big years. That's absurd. He's a cheap POS dude, either that or his business interests are taking a hit or he's operating the team very inefficiently (this is true, look at Drek's posts about Bowlen and operating income (low) vs. revenues (high) and debt (low). Look at Footsteps post awhile back about the leveraging stuff and the stadium stuff, too. It's all there dude, you just dont want to see it.

BTW I am NOT ragging on him for not making a splash today sicne its just Day 1 and there's a ways to go but there's a ton of bad history here.
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@PriscoCBS: Too many teams overpaid today. Like always. Smart teams sit back and watch.
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we'll see what he does.
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Im watching many FAs get overpaid today I don't think hes cheap I think hes just smart.

The best FAs aka the value guys will come in the next few days.
Dude, pull your head out of you ass. You've baught into that crap...let's sign everybody's rejects to 4yr $10m deals. Oh, boy we are smart!!!
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Seems to me that he's tired of being burned by high priced free agents who can't live up to their contracts. How many years did he let Shanny waste his money by building a team through free agency only to be left with nothing.

Some say he's cheap, others say he's being smarter with his money.
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@PriscoCBS: Too many teams overpaid today. Like always. Smart teams sit back and watch.
I like how it went from you don't build championship teams by over spending for FAs to we are dooooooooommmmmmmeddddd. Green Bay, Giants, NE, Pitt haven't made moves I guess they are F'd.
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I think if we get Peyton we won't have much cap space because we'll be going for it now.
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The Eagles broke the bank last year and it really worked wonders for them...
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I like how it went from you don't build championship teams by over spending for FAs to we are dooooooooommmmmmmeddddd. Green Bay, Giants, NE, Pitt haven't made moves I guess they are F'd.
yeah but you at least try to fill 1 or 2 holes in FA so you can position yourself in the draft to take the BPA. Sry you don't get that.
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The Eagles broke the bank last year and it really worked wonders for them...
I think they will be much better this year.
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I think we have to right? Would someone who was cheap ever spend zero dollars?
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@PriscoCBS: Too many teams overpaid today. Like always. Smart teams sit back and watch.
Yep, that's what all the teams that sit back and watch say.

Look, if you are sitting back and watching...you better have Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Aaron Rogers, the 49ers defense, the Ravens defense, Ben Roethlesberger/Steeler defense etc.

The teams that needs to step up are the teams that are talent starved = Broncos!

Getting Manning is no sure fire thing. Even if we get him, we'd better have a top 10 defense, because there is going to be plenty of growing pains from our offense.
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yeah but you at least try to fill 1 or 2 holes in FA so you can position yourself in the draft to take the BPA. Sry you don't get that.
Oh so FA is a one day thing? I've seen WR and S go off the FA board. Are those are only holes?
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I think if we get Peyton we won't have much cap space because we'll be going for it now.
if we sign Peyton we should still have 25+ million. More than enough to at least fill 1 or 2 important holes on the roster.
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