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Old 03-12-2012, 12:48 PM   #2226
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Or it means that he's already familiar with those facilities.
As I said in another thread, I'd think Manning's visits were more about the people than the facilities.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:57 PM   #2227
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Wheww! The guy who reported that Manning would visit the Texans just said that he got a bad text and the guy who sent it to him meant to say Titans not Texans.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:05 PM   #2228
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sounds like you have a bad case of Manning Dick
Yeah, I hear Tim Tebow's never had that kind of trouble before.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:12 PM   #2229
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Yeah, I hear Tim Tebow's never had that kind of trouble before.
How would he know, he's never used it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:48 PM   #2230
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I just think there are way more positives in Denver than AZ - connections, cap space... sure AZ has some better surrounding offensive talent, but that will change when they free up the cap space to get Manning.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:14 PM   #2231
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I just think there are way more positives in Denver than AZ - connections, cap space... sure AZ has some better surrounding offensive talent, but that will change when they free up the cap space to get Manning.
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http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/157180

The Cardinals cap situation is not dire and they have more than enough room to sign Manning if he wants to be there, plus some additional weapons.

At this juncture I'd be more worried about the Texans as they offer all of the same warm weather/dome benefits of the Cards, and they are in a much better position to win right away with better tools than either the Broncos or Cardinals.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:16 PM   #2232
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I still say our biggest ace in the hole is the fact that Stokely and Helton live here.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:18 PM   #2233
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Educate yourself:

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/157180

The Cardinals cap situation is not dire and they have more than enough room to sign Manning if he wants to be there, plus some additional weapons.

At this juncture I'd be more worried about the Texans as they offer all of the same warm weather/dome benefits of the Cards, and they are in a much better position to win right away with better tools than either the Broncos or Cardinals.
Yeah Denver doesn't have to cut GOOD players to make this deal happen. Can you say the Cardinals can do the samething?
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:20 PM   #2234
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Educate yourself:

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/157180

The Cardinals cap situation is not dire and they have more than enough room to sign Manning if he wants to be there, plus some additional weapons.

At this juncture I'd be more worried about the Texans as they offer all of the same warm weather/dome benefits of the Cards, and they are in a much better position to win right away with better tools than either the Broncos or Cardinals.
One of the key moves Arizona would have to make in order to clear space is release Levi Brown. Their OL is poor even with Brown, so I'm not sure what plan Arizona pitched to Manning on how to keep him upright.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:22 PM   #2235
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Yeah Denver doesn't have to cut GOOD players to make this deal happen. Can you say the Cardinals can do the samething?
I wouldn't call Levi Brown good. That cut alone puts them under the cap... Todd Heap... he's done. Kevin Kolb... would have to cut him anyway. The only other Offensive player even being discussed is Chansi Stuckey... not much of a loss for them.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:23 PM   #2236
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I still say our biggest ace in the hole is the fact that Stokely and Helton live here.
I'd feel better if Elway had at least one of the twins as a hostage.
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One of the key moves Arizona would have to make in order to clear space is release Levi Brown. Their OL is poor even with Brown, so I'm not sure what plan Arizona pitched to Manning on how to keep him upright.
Or getting Calais Campbell to agree to contract like yesterday soon. Cutting Bradley, Heap, and Chansi Stuckey. None of those guys are that big of a lose like Brown is.
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One of the key moves Arizona would have to make in order to clear space is release Levi Brown. Their OL is poor even with Brown, so I'm not sure what plan Arizona pitched to Manning on how to keep him upright.
Guessing they showed him a few Broncos O-Line highlights from the Lions and Pats games.
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How would he know, he's never used it.
Which is what makes it a joke.
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One of the key moves Arizona would have to make in order to clear space is release Levi Brown. Their OL is poor even with Brown, so I'm not sure what plan Arizona pitched to Manning on how to keep him upright.
Fine don't call him good, your line wasn't that great before with him. How do you plan on getting better without him?
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:27 PM   #2241
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Guessing they showed him a few Broncos O-Line highlights from the Lions and Pats games.
None of the Orton games? Wonder why.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:36 PM   #2242
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Now it sounds like the Titans are offering him a job for life... FO position after he retires from being their QB.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:39 PM   #2243
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None of the Orton games? Wonder why.
Probably cause the Oline only gave up like 9 sacks in 5 games with Orton. That would defeat his arguement

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Old 03-12-2012, 02:40 PM   #2244
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Now it sounds like the Titans are offering him a job for life... FO position after he retires from being their QB.
With all the money i assume he has, i cant imagine this would be the dealsealer.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:40 PM   #2245
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None of the Orton games? Wonder why.
Good point. They'd definitely show off Orton's 5 sacker against Oakland IN DENVER to kick off the season.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:43 PM   #2246
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I still say our biggest ace in the hole is the fact that Stokely and Helton live here.
wow, I totally forgot about Helton. Good call.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:45 PM   #2247
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Guessing they showed him a few Broncos O-Line highlights from the Lions and Pats games.
those sacks were on tebow.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:48 PM   #2248
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Good point. They'd definitely show off Orton's 5 sacker against Oakland IN DENVER to kick off the season.
It was 5 sacks in the first game? So that means Orton only got sacked 4 times in the following 4 games.

Ya that O line really sucks
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yeah 9 sacks on orton vs 33 for tebow.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:53 PM   #2250
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Just show Manning the film where Tebow is standing back behind the LoS for 5-7 seconds, looking, looking, looking, looking, ultimately NOT throwing the ball and then scrambling around.

I think this oline is more of a liability in the run game than in pass blocking.
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