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Old 03-12-2012, 08:13 AM   #2126
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:15 AM   #2127
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I'd be exhausted too after doing Den of Fri and Ariz on Sat and then having to deal with Mia. He's probably happy to be home. I don't blame him for waiting till mid week because that only puts his selected team one day behind in FA.

Ariz has the dome and Fitz.

Den has a much better FO and cap room.

But no one, not even Manning, knows how much arm strength he'll eventually have. But Montana was pretty much noodle armed in his KC years and got it done on grit and smarts.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:16 AM   #2128
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:18 AM   #2129
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I'd be exhausted too after doing Den of Fri and Ariz on Sat and then having to deal with Mia. He's probably happy to be home. I don't blame him for waiting till mid week because that only puts his selected team one day behind in FA.

Ariz has the dome and Fitz.

Den has a much better FO and cap room.

But no one, not even Manning, knows how much arm strength he'll eventually have. But Montana was pretty much noodle armed in his KC years and got it done on grit and smarts.
yeah, that's a lot of free steak and BJ's
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:21 AM   #2130
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Yup, people forget that Gabbert only started 2 years in college and was considered a bit of a developmental QB with really solid physical tools and potential.
development of a young qb? what is that. i learned on the mane that qbs dont get better. if they arent ready when they get here they never will be. maybe gabbart could play fb?

just wanted to say that you being patient with gabbert is a fresh perspective on young qbs.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:26 AM   #2131
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...just wanted to say that you being patient with gabbert is a fresh perspective on young qbs.
I hear ya. But we need a backup and a QBOTF, although I'm certainly not suggesting that Gabbert is the guy for either "job", nor am I advocating that he should be.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:36 AM   #2132
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Appearing on Mike and Mike in the Morning on Monday, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reiterated that free agent quarterback Peyton Manning is “exhausted” after his weekend flights to Denver and Arizona, and not ready to make a decision.

Mort said he’d be “shocked” if Manning picked a new team by Tuesday’s 4 p.m. opening of free agency, and even went so far as to suggest Manning may not sign with a team at all this week.

“He wants to get back into his throwing regimen,” Mortensen stated. “I will be shocked if he has a decision by 4 p.m. tomorrow when the new league year starts. And I might even be surprised if he has a decision this week.”

A week-long delay could hurt the Arizona Cardinals’ chances of landing Manning. Holdover quarterback Kevin Kolb is due a $7 million roster bonus next Saturday. Denver isn’t in such a bind.

Mort didn’t say much about the Dolphins. He seems to agree with colleague Adam Schefter that the Denver Broncos are the favorites to sign Manning.

Regardless, it appears no decision is imminent.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eam-this-week/
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^If he's smart about it, he at least gives teams notification of his intentions before FA starts so they can make decisions about their teams. In fact, it's kind of asinine not to do that. He could even mess up the team he intends to go to. What are they supposed to do, guess what their roster might be?
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^If he's smart about it, he at least gives teams notification of his intentions before FA starts so they can make decisions about their teams. In fact, it's kind of asinine not to do that. He could even mess up the team he intends to go to. What are they supposed to do, guess what their roster might be?
I don't get it either. And you'd think he'd want to put this decision behind him and move forward rather than continue to agonize over it.
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^If he's smart about it, he at least gives teams notification of his intentions before FA starts so they can make decisions about their teams. In fact, it's kind of asinine not to do that. He could even mess up the team he intends to go to. What are they supposed to do, guess what their roster might be?
Arizona may have to do exactly that because Kolb is due a roster bonus. I'm hoping anyway. Not that it'd be the end of days to see if Tebow's got game.
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^If he's smart about it, he at least gives teams notification of his intentions before FA starts so they can make decisions about their teams. In fact, it's kind of asinine not to do that. He could even mess up the team he intends to go to. What are they supposed to do, guess what their roster might be?
Problem is once teams started making moves, people would figure it all out pretty quickly.
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i think hes waiting to see how much cap space Arizona can get...
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I don't get it either. And you'd think he'd want to put this decision behind him and move forward rather than continue to agonize over it.
The ESPN report seemed to indicate that the Broncos are going to folow the same FA plan whether Manning signs or not. I actually think that's a good thing. I'm not necessarily interested in signing a bunch of old vets for a two year run. Stick with smart FA shopping to add depth while placing a strong emphasis on the draft.
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The ESPN report seemed to indicate that the Broncos are going to folow the same FA plan whether Manning signs or not. I actually think that's a good thing. I'm not necessarily interested in signing a bunch of old vets for a two year. Stick with smart shopping to add depth and a strong emphasis on the draft.
What else are they going to say at this point. "We're waiting for Peyton, but he NEVER CALLS!?!?! We'll just sit here until he does, because we love him. But he better not be talking to those slutty Dolphins!"
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What else are they going to say at this point. "We're waiting for Peyton, but he NEVER CALLS!?!?! We'll just sit here until he does, because we love him. But he better not be talking to those slutty Dolphins!"
Well, certainly that report could be untrue. But my point is that I'd like to see us follow the same plan either way. Rather than going after big names like Wayne or Finnegan, I prefer the approach of looking for more cost effective buys, similar to McGahee and Bunkley last offseason. Even with signing Manning, we would still have plenty of cap space to make a series of such moves designed to increase the depth on the club. If Manning doesn't sign, that's still the approach I prefer and expect to see.
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The ESPN report seemed to indicate that the Broncos are going to folow the same FA plan whether Manning signs or not. I actually think that's a good thing. I'm not necessarily interested in signing a bunch of old vets for a two year run. Stick with smart FA shopping to add depth while placing a strong emphasis on the draft.
their FA plan originally called for upgrading their QB position anyway...so i dont see how they would change their FA approach since they will look elsewhere for their next QB target once Manning decides or doesnt decide to come here. Their plan isnt to bring in players who run the college offense..
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The ESPN report seemed to indicate that the Broncos are going to folow the same FA plan whether Manning signs or not. I actually think that's a good thing. I'm not necessarily interested in signing a bunch of old vets for a two year run. Stick with smart FA shopping to add depth while placing a strong emphasis on the draft.
Yeah, but doesn't the team have to know if PM is their guy before they make any deals and spend money? What do all those teams do, set $20 mil aside?
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i think hes waiting to see how much cap space Arizona can get...
That's the first thing I thought of too.
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their FA plan originally called for upgrading their QB position anyway...so i dont see how they would change their FA approach since they will look elsewhere for their next QB target once Manning decides or doesnt decide to come here. Their plan isnt to bring in players who run the college offense..
Knowing Manning may come hrre must be really pissing you raider fans off. Your team couodn't even handle Tebow.
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Well, certainly that report could be untrue. But my point is that I'd like to see us follow the same plan either way. Rather than going after big names like Wayne or Finnegan, I prefer the approach of looking for more cost effective buys, similar to McGahee and Bunkley last offseason. Even with signing Manning, we would still have plenty of cap space to make a series of such moves designed to increase the depth on the club. If Manning doesn't sign, that's still the approach I prefer and expect to see.
I'd like that too, because the team would be better without Manning, and the hangover would be shorter after Manning should he come here. But that's not likely. Most people don't take a half-assed approach to soul-selling.
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Yeah, but doesn't the team have to know if PM is their guy before they make any deals and spend money? What do all those teams do, set $20 mil aside?
They wouldn't necessarily have to know right away. I mean, think about it. They aren't going to burn through all $45 million or whatever of cap space in less than a week. If Manning drags things on for a couple of weeks Favre style, then it could become an issue. But I doubt that will happen.
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their FA plan originally called for upgrading their QB position anyway...so i dont see how they would change their FA approach since they will look elsewhere for their next QB target once Manning decides or doesnt decide to come here.
I think they may well be interested in Weeden ... assuming they are ok with his arm, if Manning goes elsewhere. If Manning comes here, I think they have to look for a vet, like Chad Henne, who doesn't have a huge salary. And then they decide on Tebow.

Since the cap barely went up at all, I'd guess they aren't in a great rush for anyone other than Bunkley, because the dollar market may just not be there like in the past.

Last year showed a little of their philosophy. Miller didn't really show much beyond they correctly identified the guy who would be the best playmaker on defense. But they thought the draft had some depth at safety, linebacker and tight end. They passed on running back and defensive tackle entirely and tried to gain depth in FA without breaking the bank.
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Knowing Manning may come hrre must be really pissing you raider fans off. Your team couodn't even handle Tebow.
knowing the Gators havent been relevant since must piss you Gator fans off too..
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They wouldn't necessarily have to know right away. I mean, think about it. They aren't going to burn through all $45 million or whatever of cap space in less than a week. If Manning drags things on for a couple of weeks Favre style, then it could become an issue. But I doubt that will happen.
Some of the big ticket guys like Mario and Vince Jackson could go before the first hour is up.
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