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Old 03-09-2012, 04:14 PM   #1501
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:17 PM   #1502
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There is no chance he is just taking a "tour".
well I think it's clear he's talking personnel, philosophy, offseason plans, all that stuff--but that doesn't mean he has any intention of signing a contract yet.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:18 PM   #1503
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Bowlen's probably threatening to get in his workout shorts..
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:19 PM   #1504
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and what happens if we don't sign Manning and Tebow does not develop into even a moderately tolerable QB? Are we any better off that way? No.

How about this scenario...we sign Manning and draft a QB next year...he serves his apprenticeship under Manning's tutelage for the next two years, and by the time Manning does retire, we have his replacement. Is that not a plausible scenario?
No, I think you get that QB this year and probably pretty early (1st or 2nd round). Also, don't expect Manning to 'tutor' anyone. He isn't a guy that wants to help anyone along... rather a guy that puts all of his effort into the plays and then discussing scenarios with the OC while the other guys take their reps.

Here is the million dollar question. Will Manning play 4 or 5 more years? If you can reasonably project that he can and will, then you go all in with him. You sign players that fit his style and you form your whole team around him. The down side is that you can't exactly replace him after he's done so you better win in that window.

With Tebow, you focus on building a more complete team that is more diverse. That's the benefit of going with Tebow... And he is much easier to replace as well.
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If that happens then it's all worth it.

Sorry if I'm of the belief that a 36 year old Manning, coming off 4 neck surgeries, who only managed 1 superbowl win in 14 years with the Colts, is unlikely to win 1 here in Denver in the next 3 years.
It's not easy to win the AFC, what with teams like NE, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Houston, Jets, a healthy SD...but would you not agree that having Manning as our QB increases our chances of doing so?
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:23 PM   #1506
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well I think it's clear he's talking personnel, philosophy, offseason plans, all that stuff--but that doesn't mean he has any intention of signing a contract yet.
Denver would be making a huge mistake letting him out of Denver imo.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:24 PM   #1507
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Us showing interest doesn't speak at all to him actually coming here.
That is true...just because we show interest, doesn't mean he'll sign with us. But that goes for alot of things too.

Just because we draft defense and go with Tebow doesn't mean we'll win West again either correct?

Just because Tebow works on his passing doesn't mean he'll actually improve enough either, correct?
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We all know he isn't going to be cheap so even inquiring seems pretty pointless if you believe that story.
why would you inquire if you're not prepared to sign him if he says Yes?
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How much of this Cap space do I have to credit Mcdaniels with? I really hate doing that.
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Broncos considered the frontrunners:

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Ok...Al Wilson...
Al wilson was cleared to play? Didn't know that...but regardless, if Al didn't sign on with anyone else, whose fault is that? Not to mention a MLB with a neck injury is alot different than a QB with one as you know a MLB is gonna have a greater chance of re-injuring himself as he's in on alot of tackles....more than a QB will endure in a season.
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Is it wrong that I hope we don't get Manning just to avoid the inevitable Hotrod poll that will end somehow with me, Bacon, ball bearings and a gold lame thong and Spider in some way? darn it.
I'm very annoyed when I don't get credit for some of my best worked
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Sure looks/feels that way, although clearly some people are in denial about this. Hope the Tom Condon thing isn't much of a hurdle.
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I'm actually not concerned about Manning's neck fusion. Many stories out there confirm that the structure is a non-issue. It's the nerves and the strength in the arm as a result of those nerves being disrupted. If he can demonstrate that he has recovered or is close to 80% or better, then there is reason to believe that he will continue to get stronger. But again, the fusion isn't a concern... even if he were blindsided. The fusion is actually stronger than the rest of the bones in his neck.
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Yeah, only took Smith 7 years to develop is all.
How many head coaches has Smith had...not to mention OC's? How about the fact he overcame his obstacles and has actually played pretty well the past coupe of seasons? He's the consumate game manager, but then again, that's all Harbaugh wants his QB to do, make smart decisions, don't turn the ball over, and make a big play when it's open....Alex helped 49ers to NFC championship game.....

So how many years do you think Tebow needs to be as good as alex smith?
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In a "Win now" league the Colts are opting to win later. The Colts are opting to gamble on Luck rather than Manning's recovery. The Colts have more faith that a rookie is better for their team than Manning and his 4 surgeries. The Colts are opting to build their championship team through the draft, we would be well served to do the same.
So how bad do you think Elway and Co. believe Tebow is if they're doing the opposite of the Colts?
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Ah, remember this?

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Elway has described the kind of quarterback he likes as “the big athlete who can throw the ball from the pocket,” which doesn’t exactly fit Tebow to a T and serves as a reminder that Tebow is the quarterback Elway inherited, not the quarterback Elway chose.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...erback-market/

I took a lot of flak for this in this thread!

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...&postcount=207
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How many head coaches has Smith had...not to mention OC's? How about the fact he overcame his obstacles and has actually played pretty well the past coupe of seasons? He's the consumate game manager, but then again, that's all Harbaugh wants his QB to do, make smart decisions, don't turn the ball over, and make a big play when it's open....Alex helped 49ers to NFC championship game.....

So how many years do you think Tebow needs to be as good as alex smith?
Give the Broncos the 49er defense, a TE like Davis, and RB like Gore, and I like our chances.
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I said you can't give an opinion? You are free to offer as many stupid ones as you want. My point was if Weeden is deemed a 2nd rounder, the Broncos would be wasting a pick, especially when they have other areas of importance and a career backup QB isn't that high on the list.

I agree, why draft a career back-up when we might already have the CBUQBOTF on the team already?
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:45 PM   #1522
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I agree, why draft a career back-up when we might already have the CBUQBOTF on the team already?
okay ill bit what does the CBU of CBUQBOTF stand for
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