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View Poll Results: Has Brock Earned And Extension?
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:16 AM   #1
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Simple question. Yes or no. And I'm not asking if you think that Elway will give him an extension. I'm asking to you think he has earned one.

For me, Its pretty simple. I have been bullish on Brock this since his draft. Once upon a time in my starry-eyed youth I thought he might have had the ceiling of a poor man's Ben Roethlisberger. These days, I'm thinking the cosmos will need to align for him to achieve the level of Jake Plummer.

But this team could totally win with circa 2003-2005 Jake Pummer at the helm. Assuming our defense only takes a small step back, comparable to the 2014 Seahawks from their 2013 squad, and the offensive line doesn't start a pair of third stringers playing out of position as our book-ends, a Jake Plummer level Quarterback could definitely take this team back to the Superbowl in 2016.

An honestly, I think we need to give up this notion that a QB is going to be readily available in free agency or the draft that will be able to come in and provide an upgrade over Brock. Lets run through the list of Free Agents:

Sam Brandford not an upgrade, even before he inevitably goes on IR.
Matt Cassel not an upgrade
Jimmy Clausen not an upgrade
Kellen Clemens not an upgrade
Kirk Cousins possibly an upgrade but Washington won't let him walk
Chase Daniels not an upgrade
Ryan Fitzpatrick could possibly be an upgrade until her remembers he is Ryan Fitzpatrick. Generally happens by week 9 of every year.
Matt Flynn not an upgrade
Bruce Gradkowski not an upgrade
Matt Hasselbeck not an upgrade
Chad Henne not an upgrade
Tarvais Jackson not an upgrade
Josh Jonson not an upgrade
Thad Lewis not an upgrade
Ryan Lindley may have just thrown up in my mouth
Luke McCown already is a cell phone salesman
Matt Moore not an upgrade
Dan Orlovsky not an upgrade
Matt Schaub yeah his last stint with Kubiak ended swimmingly
Scott Tolzien not an upgrade
Mike Vick ......I genuinely surprised me to find out he was still in the league
Joe Webb not an upgrade
Brandon Weeden not an upgrade
Charlie Whitehurst not an upgrade
T.J. Yates not an upgrade


There just isn't a QB out there who is going to come in and upgrade the position for 2016. I think the best option is to roll with Brock while drafting a guy in the later rounds to develop.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:20 AM   #2
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semantics, but it's not an extension since his contract has expired. it would just be a new contract
voted yes btw
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:22 AM   #3
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Brock is the best option, fits Kubiak's offense but Elway isnt gonna give him 15+ a year.

He has not proven that.

Elway will offer a prove it/2 year, 24 mil or so deal. And Brock can get franchise money if he proves he is down the road.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:23 AM   #4
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Enough to be resigned, but not enough to show me he can take it to the next level.

You forgot to mention RG III or CK
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:30 AM   #5
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:34 AM   #6
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He's simply the best option. They shouldn't break the bank on him, and hopefully he's not expecting that. But that could cause a problem because some other team might decide to throw more money at him.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:44 AM   #7
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He earned enough to have an opportunity to compete for the starting qb job next season If his price is right.. I don't think elway is gonna sell the farm to keep him around.
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For a guy in his first starts, I don't know what more you'd want to see. Imagine what an offseason of starter reps could do.

Even in the games we lost, Brock made big-time throws when it mattered most... even if both were dropped by Vernon Davis.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:50 AM   #9
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Brock was going to be a Super Bowl winning qb if his team never let him down. (Although with this defense, even you and I could have won the Super Bowl).

Of course he's earned a new contract, definitely if its in the 2 yr 24 mill range.

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When Brock throws the ball, i always feel that the Defensive line man will bat the ball.
He needs to adjust his throwing motion to be a good QB.

He will sign 2 year contract between 8-10 million/year with broncos.
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When Brock throws the ball, i always feel that the Defensive line man will bat the ball.
He needs to adjust his throwing motion to be a good QB.

He will sign 2 year contract between 8-10 million/year with broncos.
His throwing motion is just fine.
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He's simply the best option. They shouldn't break the bank on him, and hopefully he's not expecting that. But that could cause a problem because some other team might decide to throw more money at him.
Pretty much this. The Broncos need to hold their ground. Brock's agent will probably tell him other teams will offer more, and if Brock wants to chase that money, good luck to him. It's in the best interest of the Broncos to have him back on a "prove it" deal, and it's in Brock's best football interests to sign that deal. But if Brock decides chasing the best deal is more important and another team will offer it, Elway should explore other options. But I'm hopeful Brock will find it in his best interests to sign what the Broncos offer. Not all players chase the best deal. Chris Harris Jr., Derek Wolfe, Tom Brady, etc. have all been examples of players who don't put money above everything else and hopefully Brock is in that group.
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Pretty much this. The Broncos need to hold their ground. Brock's agent will probably tell him other teams will offer more, and if Brock wants to chase that money, good luck to him. It's in the best interest of the Broncos to have him back on a "prove it" deal, and it's in Brock's best football interests to sign that deal. But if Brock decides chasing the best deal is more important and another team will offer it, Elway should explore other options. But I'm hopeful Brock will find it in his best interests to sign what the Broncos offer. Not all players chase the best deal. Chris Harris Jr., Derek Wolfe, Tom Brady, etc. have all been examples of players who don't put money above everything else and hopefully Brock is in that group.
Good post, and with this DEFENSE, of course its in his best interests to sign a "prove it" deal. Hopefully Brock values championships more than money, especially if the money is only $2million or so difference.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:08 AM   #15
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Brock doesn't seem like the kind of guy that's just in it for the money. He knows this is the best situation for him to succeed.
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Brock doesn't seem like the kind of guy that's just in it for the money. He knows this is the best situation for him to succeed.
This is what I was thinking too......money isn't as big an issue as being the starting QB is.

Peyton will more than likely retire, and if given the choice between taking over a current championship team whose offense you know, vs. going elsewhere and learning a new offense with less talent on both sides of the ball, only a fool would leave this team voluntarily.
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We don't really know any of these guys personally, and aside from what we see in articles and on television it is hard to truly know a person, but Brock gives off a really positive and well grounded vibe. I have a good feeling about him and how he handled everything was masterful. We can all say that it was the only way to handle it, but there have been countless times in pro sports we have seen selfish actions dismantle a team and cause unnecessary controversy. Brock was positive on the sidelines and after a game, starting or being a backup he remained steady.

Obviously personality and liking a guy doesn't say or mean anything about their ability as an athlete. I do think Brock is the best option because I don't see a rookie coming in and doing any better. I think we would have a very restricted and handcuffed offense once again if that were the case. I think Brock with first team reps is going to continue to grow and I think it only helps that the team loves him and he genuinely seems to enjoy playing for this franchise. I don't see how anyone could have expected more over his starts when the offense sputtered all season and his line play was some of the worst in the league. Not to mention the amount of pressure he was under with a win now team.

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I said no because it's not an extension. His contract has expired.
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I said no because it's not an extension. His contract has expired.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:39 AM   #22
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Please pick Denver Brock...be the bigger man!
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The only QB available that I'd think about taking instead of re-signing Brock is Cousins and zero chance the Redskins let him go.
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Several years of tutelage under one of the best but if he wants the money then let em go.
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