General Baseball Thread 2012 - Page 31 - The Orange Mane

DBroncos4life · 08-24-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/...rs-sources-say

Dodgers get Adrian Gonzalez claim

Dodgers are going big. Next years line up will look sick.

TheChamp24 · 08-24-2012, 07:58 PM

I doubt the Dodgers finalize a trade to get Adrian Gonzalez. They'd be stupid to take on that contract, plus the contracts of the other guys the Red Sox want to dump.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 08-24-2012, 09:14 PM

That giants sweep sent the dodgers into panic mode.

DBroncos4life · 08-24-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

I doubt the Dodgers finalize a trade to get Adrian Gonzalez. They'd be stupid to take on that contract, plus the contracts of the other guys the Red Sox want to dump.

Lol do you see the production he would give L.A. over the scubs playing first now? Then the line up over then next few years?

broncocalijohn · 08-24-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

I doubt the Dodgers finalize a trade to get Adrian Gonzalez. They'd be stupid to take on that contract, plus the contracts of the other guys the Red Sox want to dump.

his contract isnt that big compared to other big name bats. This would be huge for the Dodgers.

Rohirrim · 08-25-2012, 07:02 AM

http://www.csnne.com/redsoxvideo?PID...kRhxsyGsA5y8lI

Dodgers are turning into Steinbrenner West.

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

his contract isnt that big compared to other big name bats. This would be huge for the Dodgers.

And if you look at the age of the players (Kemp, Crawford, Gonzo, Ramirez and Either) you see they can build some chemistry in their primes. They still have Puig who is killing it in the minors so hopefully they can move Either for Wright in the off-season.

TheChamp24 · 08-25-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

his contract isnt that big compared to other big name bats. This would be huge for the Dodgers.

He's getting paid $20 mil a year, how is that not big?

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Lol do you see the production he would give L.A. over the scubs playing first now? Then the line up over then next few years?

Oh Dodger fans with the homer glasses on.
Good luck fielding a competitive team with so much money tied into guys.
Honestly, the Red Sox are smart to be able to move the dead money in Beckett and Crawford, and then get Gonzalez's huge contract out as well to improve their pitching.

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

He's getting paid $20 mil a year, how is that not big?

Oh Dodger fans with the homer glasses on.
Good luck fielding a competitive team with so much money tied into guys.
Honestly, the Red Sox are smart to be able to move the dead money in Beckett and Crawford, and then get Gonzalez's huge contract out as well to improve their pitching.

Sorry you are upset that L.A. is a big market team again.

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 10:12 AM

The Sox are not getting Lee so this deal is even better IMO.

TheChamp24 · 08-25-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Sorry you are upset that L.A. is a big market team again.

This isn't a video game where they can keep all those guys and still win.
They'll need to give Kershaw a nice contract.
They are paying Kemp $20 mil a year
Hanley's getting paid $15 mil a year, how much the Dodgers are paying I don't know.
Gonzalez is $20 mil a year
Ethier is $15 mil a year
Crawford $20 mil a year
Beckett $15 mil a year

$105 million next year in just 6 guys, not including Kershaw even.

Billingsley makes $11 mil next year, Kershaw $10 I believe
Harang $7 million
Ted Lilly $12 million
Capuano $6 million
Uribe $8 million

$66 more million tied up in 6 more players. Half your roster is at $171 million already.
I just don't think its a smart move at all, and just look what happened to Boston trying to nab all these supposedly high promising players with big contracts. Crashed and burned and left with dealing guys to clear up money to try to "start over" improving the team.

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

This isn't a video game where they can keep all those guys and still win.
They'll need to give Kershaw a nice contract.
They are paying Kemp $20 mil a year
Hanley's getting paid $15 mil a year, how much the Dodgers are paying I don't know.
Gonzalez is $20 mil a year
Ethier is $15 mil a year
Crawford $20 mil a year
Beckett $15 mil a year

$105 million next year in just 6 guys, not including Kershaw even.

Billingsley makes $11 mil next year, Kershaw $10 I believe
Harang $7 million
Ted Lilly $12 million
Capuano $6 million
Uribe $8 million

$66 more million tied up in 6 more players. Half your roster is at $171 million already.
I just don't think its a smart move at all, and just look what happened to Boston trying to nab all these supposedly high promising players with big contracts. Crashed and burned and left with dealing guys to clear up money to try to "start over" improving the team.

Lilly, Uribe are gone. Cap and Harang make for good 4 and 5 starters for that price. Both Ellis and Gordon are dirt cheap and will round out that line up just fine.

SouthStndJunkie · 08-25-2012, 10:42 AM

The Red Sox needed to do something.....the chemistry and attitude of the current team wasn't working.

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 10:46 AM

The Dodgers have 10 million dollars tied up in guys playing first right now. Gonzo is worth 10 million extra a year for his production.

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

The Red Sox needed to do something.....the chemistry and attitude of the current team wasn't working.

See L.A. is such a laid back place for baseball I think those guys going to us will help them out, at least for Crawford.

Gort · 08-25-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

The Red Sox needed to do something.....the chemistry and attitude of the current team wasn't working.

for the Pink Sox, i suggest seppuku.

go O's!

24champ · 08-25-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

http://www.csnne.com/redsoxvideo?PID...kRhxsyGsA5y8lI

Dodgers are turning into Steinbrenner West.

Yeah, the owners aren't messing around!

24champ · 08-25-2012, 11:27 AM

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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#dodgers have sent a plane. a-gon, beckett & punto are now in the air to LA.

Looks like the deal is done.

Beantown Bronco · 08-25-2012, 12:32 PM

This is long overdue. I can't believe we found someone willing to take these contracts off our hands. Cancers and bad fits just aren't worth the money we were giving out.

Now if we can just get someone to take Lackey off our hands in the off season, they can truly start over.

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

This is long overdue. I can't believe we found someone willing to take these contracts off our hands. Cancers and bad fits just aren't worth the money we were giving out.

Now if we can just get someone to take Lackey off our hands in the off season, they can truly start over.

Outside of Beckett what did the other three players do?

bombay · 08-25-2012, 12:58 PM

Cardinals are beginning to roll. They need a sweep in Cincy this weekend, and they're seriously in the mix for the division.

Beantown Bronco · 08-25-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Outside of Beckett what did the other three players do?

Gonzo has been crying since day one about all the extra night games, media coverage, etc that comes with playing for the Sox. He was also one of the key guys involved in the anti-Valentine camp since day one. He's not the biggest locker room cancer, but he's been a big enough distraction that they're not going to miss him as much as they would otherwise. His numbers are also way down and not worth what they're paying him.....but they're certainly attractive enough to sweeten a deal for a team like the Dodgers to take the Crawford and Beckett salaries off their hands.

Crawford is just in the "always hurt, under performing, bad fit" category. He's been fine in the locker room and off the field.

Punto's just a guy. He wasn't going to stick after this year anyway.

TheChamp24 · 08-25-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Lilly, Uribe are gone. Cap and Harang make for good 4 and 5 starters for that price. Both Ellis and Gordon are dirt cheap and will round out that line up just fine.

They are still under contract for next year, you still have to pay them.
You have a #1 pitcher in Kershaw, a #3 in Billingsley and then what, okay #4 and #5's?

I just think the Dodgers are trying to upgrade their team the wrong way.
Would you rather the Dodgers get Gonzalez and take on all these horrible contracts, or go out and get Greinke in the offseason?

DBroncos4life · 08-25-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

They are still under contract for next year, you still have to pay them.
You have a #1 pitcher in Kershaw, a #3 in Billingsley and then what, okay #4 and #5's?

I just think the Dodgers are trying to upgrade their team the wrong way.
Would you rather the Dodgers get Gonzalez and take on all these horrible contracts, or go out and get Greinke in the offseason?

Beckett is the number 2 next year.

TheChamp24 · 08-25-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Beckett is the number 2 next year.

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08-24-2012, 07:58 PM	#752
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,874	I doubt the Dodgers finalize a trade to get Adrian Gonzalez. They'd be stupid to take on that contract, plus the contracts of the other guys the Red Sox want to dump.

08-24-2012, 09:14 PM	#753
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,227 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	That giants sweep sent the dodgers into panic mode.

08-25-2012, 07:02 AM	#756
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,814	http://www.csnne.com/redsoxvideo?PID...kRhxsyGsA5y8lI Dodgers are turning into Steinbrenner West.

08-25-2012, 10:12 AM	#760
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,531	The Sox are not getting Lee so this deal is even better IMO.

08-25-2012, 10:42 AM	#763
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,251	The Red Sox needed to do something.....the chemistry and attitude of the current team wasn't working.

08-25-2012, 10:46 AM	#764
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,531	The Dodgers have 10 million dollars tied up in guys playing first right now. Gonzo is worth 10 million extra a year for his production.

08-25-2012, 12:32 PM	#769
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,040 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	This is long overdue. I can't believe we found someone willing to take these contracts off our hands. Cancers and bad fits just aren't worth the money we were giving out. Now if we can just get someone to take Lackey off our hands in the off season, they can truly start over.

08-25-2012, 12:58 PM	#771
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,330	Cardinals are beginning to roll. They need a sweep in Cincy this weekend, and they're seriously in the mix for the division.