The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-14-2012, 05:33 AM   #1
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 4,748

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default AFC West salary-cap numbers - Look Who's 22 Million Over...

Raiders have to dump plenty of salary





Posted by Mike Florio on February 28, 2012, 11:28 PM EST




In two weeks, each team must be in compliance with the 2012 salary cap, whatever that number may be. In the offseason, cap compliance is based on the cap numbers of the 51 highest-paid players on the roster.

The Raiders may have to dump more than a few of their top 51 in order to get under the cap.

Based on the ďtop 51″ report for each team as of February 28, a copy of which PFT has obtained, the Raiders stand at $145.7 million. Thatís more than $16 million more than the next team, the Giants.

The full list can be seen here.

If the 2012 cap lands at $120 million and based on the availability of $3.23 million in 2011 cap space that can be carried over, the Raiders still must clear more than $22 million in the next two weeks.

At the other end of the spectrum are the Bengals, who have only $83.5 million in commitments for 2012. The Buccaneers, Titans, Redskins, and Broncos also are under $100 mill





Raiders: $145.7 million.

Giants: $129.1 million.

Panthers: $128.5 million.

Cowboys: $124.3 million.

Lions: $123.0 million.

Jets: $120.9 million.

Packers: $120.7 million.

Steelers: $120.5 million.

Texans: $118.9 million.

Rams: $118.0 million.

Cardinals: $117.7 million.

Ravens: $116.3 million.

Vikings: $116.0 million.

Eagles: $112.8 million.

Chargers: $112.8 million.

Dolphins: $112.7 million.

Seahawks: $110.0 million.

Saints: $109.6 million.

Chiefs: $108.9 million.

Colts: $107.5 million.

Jaguars: $107.3 million.

49ers: $105.9 million.

Bills: $104.7 million.

Browns: $103.4 million.

Patriots: $102.6 million.

Bears: $101.9 million.

Falcons: $101.5 million.

Broncos: $98.7 million.

Titans: $94.5 million.

Redskins: $93.5 million.

Buccaneers: $92.7 million.

Bengals: $83.5 million.





http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nty-of-salary/

Last edited by Bronco Rob; 02-29-2012 at 04:10 PM..
Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-14-2012, 05:51 AM   #2
strafen
Karma
 
strafen's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,341

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Elway
Default

With the ransom they paid for Palmer, there's no wonder they're over...
Plus not having a 1st round pick (as I understand) doesn't matter much, I guess...
strafen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 05:58 AM   #3
LRtagger
Ring of Famer
 
LRtagger's Avatar
 
CUT THAT MEAT

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,659

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

L0L they are going to have to purge the roster and they dont have the draft choices to replace those cuts with top prospects.
LRtagger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 06:01 AM   #4
oubronco
John Foneco !!
 
oubronco's Avatar
 
Mile High Magic

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sooner Country
Posts: 19,941
Default

Doesn't look like Carr will be leaving KC
oubronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 07:37 AM   #5
BroncoBen
Ring of Famer
 
BroncoBen's Avatar
 
Go Broncos !!

Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,500
Default

To you and me $50-60 million sounds like alot of money, but when its noted that the 'Chiefs' can keep '2' players with their $62 million, how much money is it really.
BroncoBen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 07:54 AM   #6
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,970

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroncoBen View Post
To you and me $50-60 million sounds like alot of money, but when its noted that the 'Chiefs' can keep '2' players with their $62 million, how much money is it really.
The writer certainly didn't mean that those two would take up all of that $62 million. Together, they'll probably account for $10-15 mil or so of their cap next year, at the most.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 09:48 AM   #7
Drunken.Broncoholic
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroncoBen View Post
To you and me $50-60 million sounds like alot of money, but when its noted that the 'Chiefs' can keep '2' players with their $62 million, how much money is it really.
theres not a player in the NFL, let alone on the chiefs that would eat up 30 million in one year...62 million is alot of room to sign whoever they want...so is 50 million...whole contracts dont go against the cap in 1 season...
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:22 AM   #8
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,970

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic View Post
theres not a player in the NFL, let alone on the chiefs that would eat up 30 million in one year
Peyton Manning's agent disagrees.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:25 AM   #9
ColoradoDarin
Not Too Shabby Poster
 
ColoradoDarin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: St Augustine, FL
Posts: 7,114

Adopt-a-Bronco:
T J Ward
Default

Signing bonuses are no longer prorated for the term of the contract. I think the entire cap hit must be taken the first year (cash outlays per year = salary cap spending). So if Carr gets a $20M signing bonus and Bowe gets a $10M one, that's half of their available cap space this year - just throwing some numbers out there. They still have plenty of room to sign other F/As.
ColoradoDarin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:35 AM   #10
Drunken.Broncoholic
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Peyton mannings contract averaged 18 million per year. I don't think there's ever been a player who's player salary(not bonus) was 30 million in one year.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:38 AM   #11
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,970

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic View Post
Peyton mannings contract averaged 18 million per year. I don't think there's ever been a player who's player salary(not bonus) was 30 million in one year.
Now that's a different argument than you presented above.

If Peyton was healthy, the Colts clearly would've kept him and paid his bonus and, as a result, his cap hit this year would have been $30 mil.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:41 AM   #12
Houshyamama
I Make The Weather
 
Houshyamama's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 4,508

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Brock Osweiler
Default

I think we'll see higher salaries with lower signing bonuses.
Houshyamama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:42 AM   #13
Drunken.Broncoholic
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin View Post
Signing bonuses are no longer prorated for the term of the contract. I think the entire cap hit must be taken the first year (cash outlays per year = salary cap spending). So if Carr gets a $20M signing bonus and Bowe gets a $10M one, that's half of their available cap space this year - just throwing some numbers out there. They still have plenty of room to sign other F/As.
I thought the 5 year rule was still in place and remained unchanged. I could be wrong.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:43 AM   #14
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,970

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Houshyamama View Post
I think we'll see higher salaries with lower signing bonuses.
Or they'll just stop using up front signing bonuses and they'll shift more towards annual roster bonuses. Agents can still say "I got him a total bonus of ___", but the teams can spread out the cap hit so it doesn't all come in year one....or avoid the hit altogether by cutting them before it's due.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:44 AM   #15
Drunken.Broncoholic
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

The bonuses helped owners get around cap space over the years of a contract. If the entire bonus counts against the cap in the first year of the contract then I agree there will be much smaller bonuses and maybe more money guaranteed.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:46 AM   #16
Drunken.Broncoholic
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Beantown is a capologist. I think there are teams that need your services. Looks like the raiders could use your help.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 11:51 AM   #17
LittleFloyd
Seasoned Veteran
 
LittleFloyd's Avatar
 
Kick a$$ runner.

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 340

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Champ Bailey
Default

Pat Bowlen, you gutless drunk. Start spending the money. You said years ago you needed a new stadium to attract free agents and so give the team the $ to pay for them. Pay up, you gutless drunk!
LittleFloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 12:12 PM   #18
Hercules Rockefeller
Ring of Famer
 
Hercules Rockefeller's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 16,159

Adopt-a-Bronco:
DJ Williams
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic View Post
I thought the 5 year rule was still in place and remained unchanged. I could be wrong.
A team's cap figure is their payroll. Nothing is amortized over the life of the contract anymore. A $10M signing bonus this offseason will count as $10M on a team's 2012 cap figure.
Hercules Rockefeller is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 02:33 PM   #19
gunns
I WANT DEFENSE!
 
gunns's Avatar
 
Defense, defense, defense

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Always Hoping
Posts: 12,305

Adopt-a-Bronco:
TJ Ward
Default

Oakland? I'm shocked!
gunns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 02:50 PM   #20
oubronco
John Foneco !!
 
oubronco's Avatar
 
Mile High Magic

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sooner Country
Posts: 19,941
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin View Post
Signing bonuses are no longer prorated for the term of the contract. I think the entire cap hit must be taken the first year (cash outlays per year = salary cap spending). So if Carr gets a $20M signing bonus and Bowe gets a $10M one, that's half of their available cap space this year - just throwing some numbers out there. They still have plenty of room to sign other F/As.
Which is why they more than likely won't get it, those hefty signing bonuses are probably a thing of the past
oubronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 02:55 PM   #21
jhns
Ring of Famer
 
but you still can't C me!

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Omaha
Posts: 12,396

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

I say give Tebow a $50 mil raise for winning all these games for us.
jhns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 03:08 PM   #22
Tombstone RJ
Ring of Famer
 
Tombstone RJ's Avatar
 
Old School

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: In the Tetons!
Posts: 21,348

Adopt-a-Bronco:
WorrellWilliams
Default

love the fact that chokeland has no picks and little to no cap space. Plus, a new HC who has never been a HC and a new GM who thinks he knows everything (only time will tell if he's good or not). Throw in Palmer and his cap hit and it all just seems faider like...
Tombstone RJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 03:33 PM   #23
BroncoBeavis
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhns View Post
I say give Tebow a $50 mil raise for winning all these games for us.
I think Bowlen could write the whole thing off to charity. What would the IRS do?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 04:19 PM   #24
snowspot66
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,787
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oubronco View Post
Which is why they more than likely won't get it, those hefty signing bonuses are probably a thing of the past
I think they'll stick around but in different uses. If you have lots of cap room and a player your are confident in why not give him the money up front to keep the guy and have the cap room to work with later?
snowspot66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 04:26 PM   #25
lonestar
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: West Texas
Posts: 6,210

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Decker
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic View Post
theres not a player in the NFL, let alone on the chiefs that would eat up 30 million in one year...62 million is alot of room to sign whoever they want...so is 50 million...whole contracts dont go against the cap in 1 season...
Look at Peyton schedueld for 23mil as a roster bonus on march 3 and then he makes about 15 a year..

might be a few other near his money..
lonestar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:49 PM.


Denver Broncos