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Old 02-13-2012, 06:25 AM   #1
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Starting middle linebacker Joe Mays is an unrestricted free agent. He might not have started at all in 2011 had there been a normal offseason; the lockout scuttled organized team activities, so third-round pick Nate Irving had no chance to adequately learn the defense. The Broncos like Irving's presence and potential. It would be no surprise if they give him the job and part with Mays.



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Didn't see a lot from Nate this year, if he could make the big leap from Year 1 to Year 2 that would be great for us.
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Didn't see a lot from Nate this year, if he could make the big leap from Year 1 to Year 2 that would be great for us.
I think it's hard to judge where Irving stands. Mike is a very tough position for a rookie to step into in any given year, but with the Lockout he was in a tough position.

I agree completely that it would be huge if he can step in and upgrade that position. The direction the Broncos go in the draft will tell us a lot about how they feel towards Irving.
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the lockout scuttled organized team activities, so third-round pick Nate Irving had no chance to adequately learn the defense

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Old 02-13-2012, 07:24 AM   #4
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He can't possibly be any worse than Mays was. I look toward to all the young new players gettin a full offseason and some coaching.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:27 AM   #5
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the lockout scuttled organized team activities, so third-round pick Nate Irving had no chance to adequately learn the defense

Yea, i'm worried Nate is the guy to take over the position. If he can't take over the starting position with Joe Mays in front of him..i don't feel all that confident he will be the answer. Hope i'm wrong though, we could use that pick some where else.
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He can't possibly be any worse than Mays was. I look toward to all the young new players gettin a full offseason and some coaching.
It's certainly been understated that the young players on the Broncos, getting a new coaching staff, were at a hugely stunted by the lockout.
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If he can't take over the starting position with Joe Mays in front of him..i don't feel all that confident he will be the answer.
I don't think that's a fair statement given the position, the off-season, and Fox's tendency to rely on veterans.
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Yea, i'm worried Nate is the guy to take over the position. If he can't take over the starting position with Joe Mays in front of him..i don't feel all that confident he will be the answer. Hope i'm wrong though, we could use that pick some where else.
the broncos leaned on several rookies all season. The statement I quoted was ridiculous.

Here's to the Broncos drafting a few more LB's. The Broncos definitely could use more talent at the position.
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the broncos leaned on several rookies all season. The statement I quoted was ridiculous.

Here's to the Broncos drafting a few more LB's. The Broncos definitely could use more talent at the position.
We could definately use an upgrade as well as some depth at the LB position.
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with Del Rio and Fox and the potential from Irving...I like this

just like Tebow, kid didn't get a full off season and he was also coming off of some injury, wouldn't be shocked to see him do well

we need depth no matter what, but Mays cannot continue to be the guy
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with Del Rio and Fox and the potential from Irving...I like this

just like Tebow, kid didn't get a full off season and he was also coming off of some injury, wouldn't be shocked to see him do well

we need depth no matter what, but Mays cannot continue to be the guy
Both Fox and Del Rio have coached some very good linebackers in Carolina and Jacksonville so hopefully they know what they are doing.
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Welcome to the lying season...

Nate Irving was a complete and utter disappointment in 2011. 16 games played, 4 tackles. Just to put that in context -- placekickers Graham Gano, Dan Carpenter, and Stephen Gostkowski also had 4 tackles on the year.

This is nothing more than a bluff by the front office -- we'll be taking a MLB in the 2nd round.
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Remember Trevor Pryce's rookie season?
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Remember Trevor Pryce's rookie season?
that roster was loaded and he was contributing by the time they got to the superbowl.
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with Del Rio and Fox and the potential from Irving...I like this

just like Tebow, kid didn't get a full off season and he was also coming off of some injury, wouldn't be shocked to see him do well

we need depth no matter what, but Mays cannot continue to be the guy
what injury did he have?
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Yeah, but remember what a bust he was after that season?
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Welcome to the lying season...

Nate Irving was a complete and utter disappointment in 2011. 16 games played, 4 tackles. Just to put that in context -- placekickers Graham Gano, Dan Carpenter, and Stephen Gostkowski also had 4 tackles on the year.

This is nothing more than a bluff by the front office -- we'll be taking a MLB in the 2nd round.
There are countless examples of players who did not do much as a rookie who went on to have successful careers. I'm not saying Irving will be an All-Pro or anything, but your post is the very definition of short-sighted.
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Yeah, but remember what a bust he was after that season?
I think I drank too much at the end of that season.


I only remember being defending superbowl champs and elway saying he was coming back...
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Brandon Marshall, Tim Tebow, Demayrius Thomas, Mario Williams, Chris Long.

Plenty of players in recent history didn't do too much their rookie year and have gone on to bigger and better things.
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Welcome to the lying season...

Nate Irving was a complete and utter disappointment in 2011. 16 games played, 4 tackles. Just to put that in context -- placekickers Graham Gano, Dan Carpenter, and Stephen Gostkowski also had 4 tackles on the year.

This is nothing more than a bluff by the front office -- we'll be taking a MLB in the 2nd round.



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Plenty of players in recent history didn't do too much their rookie year and have gone on to bigger and better things.
Agree. But Irving didn't do anything.
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There are countless examples of players who did not do much as a rookie who went on to have successful careers. I'm not saying Irving will be an All-Pro or anything, but your post is the very definition of short-sighted.
Believe me, I hope I'm wrong -- I hope he ends up being a 12-year all-pro and a first-ballot hall of famer.

On the other hand... Matt Willis had 6 tackles this season. How the **** does an ILB who is on the roster for 16 games not beat that? Especially when he's backing up Joe ****ing Mayes?
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Agree. But Irving didn't do anything.
He had two decent, experienced veterans in front of him in Mays and Haggan, and Fox seems to prefer playing vets. Yes, I know a couple of rookies got to play this season, but those were at positions where we had basically no other options. Other than Dawkins, we had nothing at safety, so Carter and Moore had little competition for playing time. We had nobody legitimate to compete with Franklin at RT.
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