Oil Investing

[Odysseus]

Anyone investing in oil?

http://etf.about.com/od/etfinvesting...in_Oil_ETF.htm

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Money-As-Oil-Prices-Rise

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2578...ty-gold-vs-oil

Oil, Gold, and Silver all seem to be the investments of conversation. Silver, in my view, seems to have the steepest upside along with most volatility.

As their increased pressure to seperate dollars from oil I have to wonder if oil's long term future might hold. Peak oil may or may not have passed and the days of cheap oil are behind us.

There are advantages to going short on oil and long.

Anyone tracking this stuff?

[lonestar]

word to the wise asking that from anyone I've seen posting here should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt..

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

Anyone investing in oil?

http://etf.about.com/od/etfinvesting...in_Oil_ETF.htm

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Money-As-Oil-Prices-Rise

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2578...ty-gold-vs-oil

Oil, Gold, and Silver all seem to be the investments of conversation. Silver, in my view, seems to have the steepest upside along with most volatility.

As their increased pressure to seperate dollars from oil I have to wonder if oil's long term future might hold. Peak oil may or may not have passed and the days of cheap oil are behind us.

There are advantages to going short on oil and long.

Anyone tracking this stuff?

I said it long ago and I was right , still right , Peak oil is a myth Bro ......
they ( Howell ) took the salt creek oil patch from a stage 5 to a stage 3 patch with Co2 injections , and if they can do that with that tired field , they can revive any patch

[Spider]

Originally Posted by lonestar

word to the wise asking that from anyone I've seen posting here should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt..

a ****ing Birther flapping his gums ............

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by lonestar
word to the wise asking that from anyone I've seen posting here should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt..

Originally Posted by Spider

a ****ing Birther flapping his gums ............

as I said, Especially this moron..

[Spider]

Originally Posted by lonestar

as I said, Especially this moron..

being called a moron by a birther is like being called fat by Rosanne Barr .......

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Spider

I said it long ago and I was right , still right , Peak oil is a myth Bro ......
they ( Howell ) took the salt creek oil patch from a stage 5 to a stage 3 patch with Co2 injections , and if they can do that with that tired field , they can revive any patch

Peak oil is a physical reality even if there is enough oil for 1000 years.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Arkie

Peak oil is a physical reality even if there is enough oil for 1000 years.

Some say the earth is making new oil all the time

How many dinosaurs do you think there were anyway?

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by baja

Some say the earth is making new oil all the time

How many dinosaurs do you think there were anyway?

I don't think it was dinosaurs. Mostly it was the swamps. The entire Earth was covered with them at one point in time; One, big, giant Okeefenokee. There were dragonflies with three foot wingspans.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Arkie

Peak oil is a physical reality even if there is enough oil for 1000 years.

none sense ....... I dont know where you get this from but just none sense

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I don't think it was dinosaurs. Mostly it was the swamps. The entire Earth was covered with them at one point in time; One, big, giant Okeefenokee. There were dragonflies with three foot wingspans.

as long as living matter dies , we have heat and pressure , we have oil .......

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by baja

Some say the earth is making new oil all the time

How many dinosaurs do you think there were anyway?

We are still discovering new oil, but the peak of discoveries happened in the 1960s. Peak oil is a reality. It doesn't mean we'll run out of energy. There's a difference between "we'll never run out of oil," and "we'll change to renewable energy sources before we run out."

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Arkie

We are still discovering new oil, but the peak of discoveries happened in the 1960s. Peak oil is a reality. It doesn't mean we'll run out of energy. There's a difference between "we'll never run out of oil," and "we'll change to renewable energy sources before we run out."

none sense , Peak discovery hasnt happened we dont know what is in the oceans , we dont know all of whats in Alaska , we dont know all of whats in Canada , hell they just hit a major strike out near Grover colo ...........

[baja]

Originally Posted by Arkie

We are still discovering new oil, but the peak of discoveries happened in the 1960s. Peak oil is a reality. It doesn't mean we'll run out of energy. There's a difference between "we'll never run out of oil," and "we'll change to renewable energy sources before we run out."

The problem with oil is that currently there is no other energy source that will support 7 billion people. Before the multi uses of oil the earth could support about 1 billion humans.

[Rohirrim]

America used to be able to innovate its way out of every problem. Whatever happened to that concept?

Oh yeah. The oil companies would prefer we don't go there.

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Spider

none sense , Peak discovery hasnt happened we dont know what is in the oceans , we dont know all of whats in Alaska , we dont know all of whats in Canada , hell they just hit a major strike out near Grover colo ...........

Well, so far, the most oil discovered was in 1965, and it's generally gone done every year with some exceptions.

[baja]

Look at the explosion of crop yields due to oil and the cheep transportation of said food created by cheep oil.

[Arkie]

Unfortunately, cheap oil is harder to find.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

America used to be able to innovate its way out of every problem. Whatever happened to that concept?

Oh yeah. The oil companies would prefer we don't go there.

Oil is far more than BTUs.

Take oil out of the equation and billions will die. Oil allowed the spike in population and will cause the rapid fall in population when it either becomes too expensive or scarse

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by baja

Look at the explosion of crop yields due to oil and the cheep transportation of said food created by cheep oil.

That's more to do with genetics and fertilizers. Oil is not used in the production of fertilizer. The macronutrients required by plants are N (Nitrogen), K (Potassium) and P (Phosphorus). Oil is hydrocarbon, made from H (Hydrogen) and C (Carbon). There are no plant nutrients in oil. Nitrogen fertilizer (N) is made from ammonia, which in turn is manufactured from natural gas, not oil. Food could always be transported by electricity.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

That's more to do with genetics and fertilizers. Oil is not used in the production of fertilizer. The macronutrients required by plants are N (Nitrogen), K (Potassium) and P (Phosphorus). Oil is hydrocarbon, made from H (Hydrogen) and C (Carbon). There are no plant nutrients in oil. Nitrogen fertilizer (N) is made from ammonia, which in turn is manufactured from natural gas, not oil. Food could always be transported by electricity.

OK you win, the future is rosy.....

Carry on.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by baja

OK you win, the future is rosy.....

Carry on.

Humans have been fretting about end of the world scenarios since the days of Nebuchadnezzar.

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Spider

as long as living matter dies , we have heat and pressure , we have oil .......

All the oil in the world has been created over a very long time on a geological time scale. We've only been depleting it for a hundred years and at an ever-increasing rate. The amount of oil created during that hundred years is like comparing a bucket of water to the oceans. It may be bigger than that, but you get the point. It's insignificant. Scientifically, oil is a nonrenewable resource.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Humans have been fretting about end of the world scenarios since the days of Nebuchadnezzar.

Who saidw anything about the end of the world?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Arkie

All the oil in the world has been created over a very long time on a geological time scale. We've only been depleting it for a hundred years and at an ever-increasing rate. The amount of oil created during that hundred years is like comparing a bucket of water to the oceans. It may be bigger than that, but you get the point. It's non-significant. Scientifically, oil is a nonrenewable resource.

you do understand that oil comes in different forms , some doesnt take as long as others to create ....... if you are looking at an quick time frame , then no but doesnt take a centuries either