Dawkins - The Orange Mane

MABroncoFan · 02-01-2012, 10:50 AM

http://broncotalk.net/2012/02/29121/...d-free-agents/

I keep seeing Dawkins listed as an unrestricted FA. I thought he still had 2 more years on the deal he originally signed w/ us?

bowtown · 02-01-2012, 10:54 AM

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Wide receiver Matthew Willis (27, 6-0, 190 lbs.) has the potential to become the next Miles Austin. We’ll find out if the Broncos agree.

WHAT?

enjolras · 02-01-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

WHAT?

I think Willis has the chance to be very good. Particularly when he is paired with a QB who can get throw him open. He'd be a really nice addition for a team like the Falcons or Saints.

bowtown · 02-01-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by enjolras

I think Willis has the chance to be very good. Particularly when he is paired with a QB who can get throw him open. He'd be a really nice addition for a team like the Falcons or Saints.

What does that have anything to do with Miles Austin? They aren't similar really at all.

Rabb · 02-01-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

What does that have anything to do with Miles Austin? They aren't similar really at all.

they are both African American wide receivers, duh

BroncoBuff · 02-01-2012, 11:13 AM

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Rotational linebacker/defensive end Mario Haggan (31, 6-3, 274 lbs.) was a key part of Denver’s special teams last season and replaced rookie linebacker Von Miller on passing downs in several games.

What? Replaced him where, on the bench?

Endy · 02-01-2012, 11:27 AM

So, what I essentially got out of that article is that the Broncos will try to re-sign all the really good UFA's and could possibly sign all the others.

In other news, two really good teams are playing in the SuperBowl this Sunday and one of them will definitely win. The fans of the other team will probably be upset about not winning. The fans of the winning team will be happier.

Back to you Tom.

eddie mac · 02-01-2012, 05:47 PM

The Broncos picked up his option last season so he is not a UFA unless some triggers were/were not hit this season that releases him from the deal. Either way he wont be back earning $6m plus, that is for sure.

Ratboy · 02-01-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

What? Replaced him where, on the bench?

In a lot of passing situations.

eddie mac · 02-01-2012, 05:59 PM

I wouldn't be worrying too much about our guys bar Prater, Bunkley and at a reach Thomas and Woodyard as rotational players/back-ups.
If any of the rest have to be re-signed they shouldn't be earning more than 1 year minimum salary deals based on their NFL careers to date.

Brady Quinn 18th ranked FA QB
Spencer Larsen 12th ranked FB
Eddie Royal 21st ranked WR
Matt Willis 43rd ranked WR
Fells 16th ranked TE
Rosario 22nd ranked TE
Hochstein 28th ranked OG
Hunter 29th ranked DE
Harvey 31st ranked DE
Bunkley 9th ranked DT
Thomas 15th ranked DT
McBean 25th ranked DT
Woodyard 8th ranked OLB
Haggan 14th ranked OLB
Mays 13th ranked ILB
Wilhite 46th ranked CB
Prater 2nd ranked K

I would even go as far to say that none of these players bar Prater (and we dont really count kickers) are top or even 2nd tier free agents in 2012 and none will get a sniff of a contract offer (unless it's from us) within the first 1-2 weeks of free agency.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-01-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

In a lot of passing situations.

Yes, Von Miller, the pass rusher, was often replaced on passing downs by mario haggan

KipCorrington25 · 02-01-2012, 06:03 PM

Willis was decent on special teams but did nothing at WR, that drop on the final drive against KC will be hard to forget.

Killericon · 02-01-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Yes, Von Miller, the pass rusher, was often replaced on passing downs by mario haggan

Von moved to DE, and Haggan took Von's spot at OLB, IIRC.

BroncoBeavis · 02-01-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MABroncoFan

http://broncotalk.net/2012/02/29121/...d-free-agents/

I keep seeing Dawkins listed as an unrestricted FA. I thought he still had 2 more years on the deal he originally signed w/ us?

I thought that same thing a couple days ago. Then I found out he restructured last summer to take a paycut and cut his deal off earlier (so he could stay with the Broncos)

http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-br...denver-broncos

Swedish Extrovert · 02-01-2012, 06:11 PM

1. We need to resign Bunkley, Prater and maybe Haggan and Willis (because of versitility - can play DE or any LB spot).

2. Woodyard would be nice to keep, but I'm sure he's looking to start somewhere.

3. Same goes for Royal, who will probably be a Redskin.

4. Von was never out on passing downs. The article must have meant rushing downs.

5. We need a TE - either resign Fells, or judging by that list sign someone higher.

6. We need a CB. I would prefer this in the draft.

LRtagger · 02-01-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Killericon

Von moved to DE, and Haggan took Von's spot at OLB, IIRC.

Dont think so. Von moved to DE, Ayers moved to DT, and the nickle CB replaced Von. Woodyard sometimes replaced Mays.

Swedish Extrovert · 02-01-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LRtagger

Dont think so. Von moved to DE, Ayers moved to DT, and the nickle CB replaced Von. Woodyard sometimes replaced Mays.

Yup. The article is wrong.

gyldenlove · 02-01-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by enjolras

I think Willis has the chance to be very good. Particularly when he is paired with a QB who can get throw him open. He'd be a really nice addition for a team like the Falcons or Saints.

Willis couldn't catch the flu in a hospital ward full of sick people - his focus on the ball is atrocious, his route running is mediocre, he lacks top end speed and quickness, he is not a natural leaper and he doesn't block all that well - he just has pro-bowl WR written all over him.

Butterscotch Stallion · 02-01-2012, 07:05 PM

von was replaced many times. He struggled against the run. I know he was the sole reason we won the division and all, but he did struggle at times. He wasn't christian so we rarely jumped on him here.

broncosteven · 02-01-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie mac

I wouldn't be worrying too much about our guys bar Prater, Bunkley and at a reach Thomas and Woodyard as rotational players/back-ups.
If any of the rest have to be re-signed they shouldn't be earning more than 1 year minimum salary deals based on their NFL careers to date.

Brady Quinn 18th ranked FA QB
Spencer Larsen 12th ranked FB
Eddie Royal 21st ranked WR
Matt Willis 43rd ranked WR
Fells 16th ranked TE
Rosario 22nd ranked TE
Hochstein 28th ranked OG
Hunter 29th ranked DE
Harvey 31st ranked DE
Bunkley 9th ranked DT
Thomas 15th ranked DT
McBean 25th ranked DT
Woodyard 8th ranked OLB
Haggan 14th ranked OLB
Mays 13th ranked ILB
Wilhite 46th ranked CB
Prater 2nd ranked K

I would even go as far to say that none of these players bar Prater (and we dont really count kickers) are top or even 2nd tier free agents in 2012 and none will get a sniff of a contract offer (unless it's from us) within the first 1-2 weeks of free agency.

I cannot wait to see Hockstein hit the street, we really need to upgrade LG, making Beadles a backup and allowing them to cut Hockstein.

I didn't realize HAM only got 1 year to go HAM for us.

I would like to see Hunter, Fells, Thomas (only because we keep undervaluing the DT position), Prater, an Wills back, everyone else is replaceable and likely whomever brought in at those positions would be immediate upgrades.

srphoenix · 02-01-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

Willis couldn't catch the flu in a hospital ward full of sick people - his focus on the ball is atrocious, his route running is mediocre, he lacks top end speed and quickness, he is not a natural leaper and he doesn't block all that well - he just has pro-bowl WR written all over him.

but he was in ninja warrior! insta-pro bowler

Cito Pelon · 02-01-2012, 08:57 PM

Dennis Allen could raid our roster to get his program going, wouldn't be surprising.

bronco militia · 02-01-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterscotch Stallion

von was replaced many times. He struggled against the run. I know he was the sole reason we won the division and all, but he did struggle at times. He wasn't christian so we rarely jumped on him here.

yes and no....Von had trouble in the nickle when he lined up as a DE. Teams started to run and pass right at him. IMO, Coach Allen was slow to adjust to what offenses were doing to Von.

Dedhed · 02-01-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

Dennis Allen could raid our roster to get his program going, wouldn't be surprising.

If you're raiding our roster, you've got serious problems.

MABroncoFan · 02-04-2012, 09:05 PM

rotoworld...

The NFLPA database does not list Broncos SS Brian Dawkins as being under contract for 2012.
Dawkins' old contract listed him with a 2012 base salary of $6 million, but he appears to be an unrestricted free agent after the Broncos did some kind of tinkering with the deal, either last offseason or during the year. Dawkins has a career-threatening neck injury and may be forced into retirement anyway.

02-01-2012, 10:50 AM	#1
MABroncoFan Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,100 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Dawkins http://broncotalk.net/2012/02/29121/...d-free-agents/ I keep seeing Dawkins listed as an unrestricted FA. I thought he still had 2 more years on the deal he originally signed w/ us?

02-01-2012, 05:59 PM	#10
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	I wouldn't be worrying too much about our guys bar Prater, Bunkley and at a reach Thomas and Woodyard as rotational players/back-ups. If any of the rest have to be re-signed they shouldn't be earning more than 1 year minimum salary deals based on their NFL careers to date. Brady Quinn 18th ranked FA QB Spencer Larsen 12th ranked FB Eddie Royal 21st ranked WR Matt Willis 43rd ranked WR Fells 16th ranked TE Rosario 22nd ranked TE Hochstein 28th ranked OG Hunter 29th ranked DE Harvey 31st ranked DE Bunkley 9th ranked DT Thomas 15th ranked DT McBean 25th ranked DT Woodyard 8th ranked OLB Haggan 14th ranked OLB Mays 13th ranked ILB Wilhite 46th ranked CB Prater 2nd ranked K I would even go as far to say that none of these players bar Prater (and we dont really count kickers) are top or even 2nd tier free agents in 2012 and none will get a sniff of a contract offer (unless it's from us) within the first 1-2 weeks of free agency. Last edited by eddie mac; 02-01-2012 at 06:01 PM..

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02-01-2012, 11:27 AM	#7
Endy Go Donks Or something Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 445	So, what I essentially got out of that article is that the Broncos will try to re-sign all the really good UFA's and could possibly sign all the others. In other news, two really good teams are playing in the SuperBowl this Sunday and one of them will definitely win. The fans of the other team will probably be upset about not winning. The fans of the winning team will be happier. Back to you Tom.

02-01-2012, 05:47 PM	#8
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	The Broncos picked up his option last season so he is not a UFA unless some triggers were/were not hit this season that releases him from the deal. Either way he wont be back earning $6m plus, that is for sure.

02-01-2012, 06:03 PM	#12
KipCorrington25 Free Safety Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Centennial Posts: 3,052	Willis was decent on special teams but did nothing at WR, that drop on the final drive against KC will be hard to forget.

02-01-2012, 06:11 PM	#15
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,959 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	1. We need to resign Bunkley, Prater and maybe Haggan and Willis (because of versitility - can play DE or any LB spot). 2. Woodyard would be nice to keep, but I'm sure he's looking to start somewhere. 3. Same goes for Royal, who will probably be a Redskin. 4. Von was never out on passing downs. The article must have meant rushing downs. 5. We need a TE - either resign Fells, or judging by that list sign someone higher. 6. We need a CB. I would prefer this in the draft.

02-01-2012, 07:05 PM	#19
Butterscotch Stallion Perennial Pro-bowler Lab Rat Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 823 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steve Atwater	von was replaced many times. He struggled against the run. I know he was the sole reason we won the division and all, but he did struggle at times. He wasn't christian so we rarely jumped on him here.

02-01-2012, 08:57 PM	#22
Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,194 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Dennis Allen could raid our roster to get his program going, wouldn't be surprising.

02-04-2012, 09:05 PM	#25
MABroncoFan Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,100 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	rotoworld... The NFLPA database does not list Broncos SS Brian Dawkins as being under contract for 2012. Dawkins' old contract listed him with a 2012 base salary of $6 million, but he appears to be an unrestricted free agent after the Broncos did some kind of tinkering with the deal, either last offseason or during the year. Dawkins has a career-threatening neck injury and may be forced into retirement anyway.