HS Football is no better in TX...? - The Orange Mane

houghtam · 01-30-2012, 03:58 PM

...than it is in CA, FL or anywhere else in the US.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/re...se-believe-not

Very interesting read that kinda debunks "conventional wisdom".

Establishing pipelines in TX, CA, FL, OH and PA is still my first priority in PS3 NCAA football

Bronco Yoda · 01-31-2012, 12:36 AM

Interesting article. Good read

Brings me back to a long conversation with another father at one of my boys baseball games last fall. He was from Dallas (which was obvious with all his cowboy garb) and the conversation went to Texas school football and California school baseball.

Is it better for your kids to play in a good high school program but small market area vs. one of these hotbed sports areas where it's practically a religion.

DBroncos4life · 01-31-2012, 12:45 AM

What is funny is year in and year out Texas is in the top 5 in recruiting because of the in state talent and they can't win. Mack Brown is either the most over rated coach in college or it's the state of Texas HS players.

El Guapo · 01-31-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

What is funny is year in and year out Texas is in the top 5 in recruiting because of the in state talent and they can't win. Mack Brown is either the most over rated coach in college or it's the state of Texas HS players.

Let's make this clear, "Texas" should be referred to as "Texas University / TU." When you say "Texas" I think of my homestate, not the **** school.

Jay3 · 01-31-2012, 07:32 AM

The best football recruiting is in the Southeastern US, a belt that includes Florida, Georgia, and the states that touch it.

Skill players and O-lineman can be had all over the country, depending on population. But for some reason, the big fast guys who can play defensive line and linebacker are found in this region.

There's a reason that the SEC keeps dominating the national championship, and a reason that coaches like Nick Saban set up shop here. There's an aspect that the southeastern region has that gives it an advantage over everywhere else.

CPA · 01-31-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by El Guapo

Let's make this clear, "Texas" should be referred to as "Texas University / TU." When you say "Texas" I think of my homestate, not the **** school.

It's "UT", not "TU".

houghtam · 01-31-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay3

The best football recruiting is in the Southeastern US, a belt that includes Florida, Georgia, and the states that touch it.

Skill players and O-lineman can be had all over the country, depending on population. But for some reason, the big fast guys who can play defensive line and linebacker are found in this region.

There's a reason that the SEC keeps dominating the national championship, and a reason that coaches like Nick Saban set up shop here. There's an aspect that the southeastern region has that gives it an advantage over everywhere else.

Read the article. That's conventional wisdom, but statistically speaking it's no better than anywhere else.

Jay3 · 01-31-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by houghtam

Read the article. That's conventional wisdom, but statistically speaking it's no better than anywhere else.

The methodology doesn't reach what I'm talking about. In fact, it doesn't even get in to how many prospects there are per capita. Just how many pre-identified prospects turn out on a scale of 1 to 5.

El Guapo · 01-31-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CPA

It's "UT", not "TU".

Negative. "UT" assumes that the school is THE university of Texas, and it is not. Therefore, everyone else in the state calls it "TU."

hookemhess · 01-31-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by El Guapo

Let's make this clear, "Texas" should be referred to as "Texas University / TU." When you say "Texas" I think of my homestate, not the **** school.

Clearly you went to A&M and for that, I am very sorry.

hookemhess · 01-31-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

What is funny is year in and year out Texas is in the top 5 in recruiting because of the in state talent and they can't win. Mack Brown is either the most over rated coach in college or it's the state of Texas HS players.

Can't win... right, because National Championships and BCS bowls don't count.

houghtam · 01-31-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay3

The best football recruiting is in the Southeastern US, a belt that includes Florida, Georgia, and the states that touch it.

Skill players and O-lineman can be had all over the country, depending on population. But for some reason, the big fast guys who can play defensive line and linebacker are found in this region.

There's a reason that the SEC keeps dominating the national championship, and a reason that coaches like Nick Saban set up shop here. There's an aspect that the southeastern region has that gives it an advantage over everywhere else.

Is there a reason why this is only a recent occurrence, then?

LonghornBronco · 01-31-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by El Guapo

Let's make this clear, "Texas" should be referred to as "Texas University / TU." When you say "Texas" I think of my homestate, not the **** school.

Listen here hayseed, it's actually UT, the top institution in the state athletically and academically.

LonghornBronco · 01-31-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hookemhess

Clearly you went to A&M and for that, I am very sorry.

Doubt hayseed has been to an institution of higher learning, or A&M for that matter.

El Guapo · 01-31-2012, 01:54 PM

It's amazing how the both of you immediately turned to derogatory names. How quickly you TU folks show your true colors.

I'm no aggie, but I definitely didn't go to TU. (this is an argument I constantly have with my bro-in-law who went there.

)

Jay3 · 01-31-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by houghtam

Is there a reason why this is only a recent occurrence, then?

Before the BCS Championship system, it was possible to win a championship without having to play the SEC Champion. The SEC teams beat up on each other, but now a one-loss SEC team usually gets to play in the championship game. The last time a team won the national championship by defeating an SEC in the championship game was Nebraska, 1995 season. By the way, Bear Bryant won a few championships back in the day.

There are certainly great players and teams outside the southeast. But there's a seeming statistical advantage in large, fast players on the defensive side of the ball, particularly pass rushers.

I'm not trying to smack talk on behalf of the SEC. I'm trying to articulate where the advantage seems to come from.

strafen · 01-31-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CPA

It's "UT", not "TU".

That's too funny!

Pony Boy · 01-31-2012, 03:11 PM

The Sooners call Texas "Baja Oklahoma"

hookemhess · 01-31-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by El Guapo

It's amazing how the both of you immediately turned to derogatory names. How quickly you TU folks show your true colors.

I'm no aggie, but I definitely didn't go to TU. (this is an argument I constantly have with my bro-in-law who went there.

)

Please point out where I "turned to derogatory names."

Do me a favor, I'm having trouble making this out... will you please read the words on this seal?

hookemhess · 01-31-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy

The Sooners call Texas "Baja Oklahoma"

I'll take razzing from Sooners, because at least they sit at the same table as us (and oftentimes kick our ass). But who wants to live in Norman over Austin?

houghtam · 01-31-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hookemhess

I'll take razzing from Sooners, because at least they sit at the same table as us (and oftentimes kick our ass). But who wants to live in Norman over Austin?

Does anyone really "want" to live anywhere in the south?

/rimshot

Brewer · 01-31-2012, 04:20 PM

I wasn't aware that there is anything at all that is good regarding Texas...

2KBack · 01-31-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewer

I wasn't aware that there is anything at all that is good regarding Texas...

Not a steak fan?

hookemhess · 01-31-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

Not a steak fan?

Or good looking women? Or low cost of living? Or warm weather?

sirhcyennek81 · 01-31-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by houghtam

Does anyone really "want" to live anywhere in the south?

/rimshot

I lived in Va and NC for 19 of the 30 years I have existed. Both were pretty awesome.

Even though when I lived in NC I was only 5 miles from snake handling Christians and high occurances of hillbillydom.

01-30-2012, 03:58 PM	#1
houghtam WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION MethWolfeAlliance Member #11001001 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 5,012 Adopt-a-Bronco: Demon Eagles	HS Football is no better in TX...? ...than it is in CA, FL or anywhere else in the US. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/re...se-believe-not Very interesting read that kinda debunks "conventional wisdom". Establishing pipelines in TX, CA, FL, OH and PA is still my first priority in PS3 NCAA football

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01-31-2012, 12:36 AM	#2
Bronco Yoda Stokley once... ...saved me from a beating Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,244	Interesting article. Good read Brings me back to a long conversation with another father at one of my boys baseball games last fall. He was from Dallas (which was obvious with all his cowboy garb) and the conversation went to Texas school football and California school baseball. Is it better for your kids to play in a good high school program but small market area vs. one of these hotbed sports areas where it's practically a religion.

01-31-2012, 12:45 AM	#3
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,523	What is funny is year in and year out Texas is in the top 5 in recruiting because of the in state talent and they can't win. Mack Brown is either the most over rated coach in college or it's the state of Texas HS players.

01-31-2012, 07:32 AM	#5
Jay3 Sad Elway Ah . . . no. Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,367 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The best football recruiting is in the Southeastern US, a belt that includes Florida, Georgia, and the states that touch it. Skill players and O-lineman can be had all over the country, depending on population. But for some reason, the big fast guys who can play defensive line and linebacker are found in this region. There's a reason that the SEC keeps dominating the national championship, and a reason that coaches like Nick Saban set up shop here. There's an aspect that the southeastern region has that gives it an advantage over everywhere else.

01-31-2012, 01:54 PM	#15
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,444	It's amazing how the both of you immediately turned to derogatory names. How quickly you TU folks show your true colors. I'm no aggie, but I definitely didn't go to TU. (this is an argument I constantly have with my bro-in-law who went there. )

01-31-2012, 03:11 PM	#18
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,281 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	The Sooners call Texas "Baja Oklahoma"

01-31-2012, 04:20 PM	#22
Brewer Solid Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Centennial, CO Posts: 143 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I wasn't aware that there is anything at all that is good regarding Texas...