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Old 02-03-2012, 08:36 PM   #726
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How in the hell is footwork and decision making improvement from a guy with 16 starts with a notoriously amazing work ethic "too much to overcome"?

Seriously... not "no answer will satisfy me", just try ANY ANSWER.
Why will he improve to be an elite passer? How do you KNOW?
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:36 PM   #727
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Omfggggggggggggggggg

...Are you kidding me?

That's to play backup you buffoon! Ya know, since Tim is the only QB under contract as we head into the off-season. A BIG ATHLETE WHO CAN THROW THE BALL FROM THE POCKET... who does that sound like?

Gasp... like they're trying to find another Tebow to fit a system that's going to be customized around Tebow!

Seriously, you might even be dumber than Spider and oubronco!



Well it doesn't sound like Tebow...other than he's a big guy...problem is he can't throw the ball from the pocket very well....which is why elway said he's looking for one that can. Key word dude..."looking"...not "we already have"


BTW Weber is signed to a futures contract douche...meaning he too will be in camp as well next season.
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Why WILL he overcome his problems. Not, now can he? How WILL he?

I backed my accusations accordingly. I stated why I don't think he will be a good quarterback. You don't like the answer, so like a three year old you continue to ask "why?" "why?"

Why? Because I don't think he can overcome those problems.
I dont like your answer because it isnt one.

I would love you to answer actually.



you are literally replying with "because thats how I feel.". thats how women and children argue. Take your time and give a reasoned response with descriptions and explanations or just go away.


you cant claim something without backing it up. otherwise you get called a hater. because that IS hating.
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Because you don't like the answer to a question, doesn't make the answer wrong.

Tebowites need to learn this.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:39 PM   #730
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I dont like your answer because it isnt one.

I would love you to anwer actually.



you are literally replying with "because thats how I feel.". thats how women and children argue. Take your time ans give a reasoned response with descriptions.ans explanations or just go away.


you cant claim something without backing it up. we have a term for that. hater.
How do you KNOW that he will improve?
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:41 PM   #731
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How in the hell is footwork and decision making improvement from a guy with 16 starts with a notoriously amazing work ethic "too much to overcome"?

Seriously... not "no answer will satisfy me", just try ANY ANSWER.
how about he hasn't done it yet...not in the time leading up to 2010 NFL draft...not in two seasons of NFL training. i mean didn't already have that great work ethic prior to leaving UF

He's worked on it going on damn near 2 years dude.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:43 PM   #732
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How do you KNOW that he will improve?
I dont. I have no idea. I think he will because he is open to coaching and is a hard.worker. That is the most important thing to improving, hard work. do you think.babies.come out of the womb with perfect mechanics?

no. these things are taught. and if the student works hard he should improve.

also, he made many great throws last season that.were nfl caliber and I am not a fag who.blinds myself to them. so its reasonable to.think he will.


if he doesnt I will gladly support moving on. but in 16 games and raw he has done a tremendous job. to not admit that is hate.

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How do you KNOW that he will improve?
I have to agree with OABB ( man I fell stupid now ) think Tebow can change , he needs to stop doing the Talk show circuit and start retraining himself , He has been able to get by with marginal skills in College , but he is going to have to work double time on his footwork first and foremost , Do you remember Arturo Gatti ? the boxer ? well he went from Brawler to boxer and revived his career , if he can learn to switch styles , Tebow can learn the proper foot work ...Just a matter of dedication
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Oh gtfo...

Did you or did you not claim your daughter is a better passer?
She definitely can complete the 15 yard out more consistently while waiting on Tebow to "revolutionalize" the QB position
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I cover most of it ITT:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread....52#post3480552

But let's go over the cliffs of it:

1. He's NEVER had a full off-season

2. Now he'll not only have that full off-season, but he'll be getting the first team reps

3. His closest physical parallel and former HoF'er: Elway himself has pledged to be working with him (for details there are several articles. More importantly ones where Elway debunks your throwing motion criticism and says they'll be working on footwork to develop the consistency he needs)

4. He'll finally have a real system. Not to criticize what they developed for him on the fly... but it was on the fly. Now they'll have a foundation to build off of and the mental game can be formed instead of a primary focus on athletic reaction.

5. One of, if not THE, best work ethics in the business.

6. It's already shown MASSIVE improvement. Reference an ESPN special in December where they highlighted his footwork improvements. Reference every quote from Elway to Mariucci to Brady and Belichick and the Pat's QB coach, etc

So in summary:

He's already shown huge improvement. Now we get the opportunity to develop and see a lot more of it.

See how that works? A well thought out and reasoned answer to your question! You guys should try it sometime!
You didn't answer my question. I want to know why he will overcome his problems and how you KNOW that he will do this?

You've only given me your opinions and that he's "shown huge improvement" but you have given us little evidence to show us that he WILL improve enough to be elite.
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how about he hasn't done it yet...not in the time leading up to 2010 NFL draft...not in two seasons of NFL training. i mean didn't already have that great work ethic prior to leaving UF

He's worked on it going on damn near 2 years dude.
seriously I think he thought his skills in college would get him through , Hopefully he has watched film , seen how bad he preforms , and dedicates the offseason to getting better , That means working with elway , going to a QB camp , and hours of retraining his feet
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I have to agree with OABB ( man I fell stupid now ) think Tebow can change , he needs to stop doing the Talk show circuit and start retraining himself , He has been able to get by with marginal skills in College , but he is going to have to work double time on his footwork first and foremost , Do you remember Arturo Gatti ? the boxer ? well he went from Brawler to boxer and revived his career , if he can learn to switch styles , Tebow can learn the proper foot work ...Just a matter of dedication
manny pacquiou too. actually all fine tuned athletes work. I dont know why people think skill is innate. glad you stopped trolling and decided to be spider again. OABB is.probably lurking and very proud of me for saving you right now.
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Un****ing believable.

Avoid any football discussion and run and hide with the rest then b****.

You've now earned this lack of respect.
he biatch slaps the taste out of your mouth and you hide behind bullshiat ...... Same ole Rev
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manny pacquiou too. actually all fine tuned athletes work. I dont know why people think skill is innate. glad you stopped trolling and decided to be spider again. OABB is.probably lurking and very proud of me for saving you right now.
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he biatch slaps the taste out of your mouth and you hide behind bullshiat ...... Same ole Rev
He didn't answer my question. I want to know why he WILL improve. Not speculation.
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he biatch slaps the taste out of your mouth and you hide behind bullshiat ...... Same ole Rev
lol. he never answered the rev...come on!

both therev and I answered him as a sign of respect. we didnt jump on him. we gave him rope.

he never answered. thats how I feel is not an answer.


jesus christ!

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He didn't answer my question. I want to know why he WILL improve. Not speculation.
wow.














































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you are a weakling. have some balls.
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lol. he never answered the rev...come on!

both therev and I answered gom as a sign of respect. we didnt jump on him. we gave him rope.

he never answered. thats hiw I feel is not an answer.


jesus christ!
OK, I'm giving you this chance.

How do you KNOW Tebow will, improve? Tell me why he WILL improve? I don't want speculation. I want assurance.
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OK, I'm giving you this chance.

How do you KNOW Tebow will, improve? Tell me why he WILL improve? I don't want speculation. I want assurance.
am I in a nightmare?
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One last time you ****ing ****:

Why do you THINK HE WONT IMPROVE IN THOSE AREAS?

I answered mine... just because you dont know the sport either doesnt mean you need to hide like a b**** (aka errand and TonyR)
Why do you THINK HE WILL IMPROVE IN THOSE AREAS?

You and butterscotch's argument is uniquely absurd.
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1. He's NEVER had a full off-season

2. Now he'll not only have that full off-season, but he'll be getting the first team reps

3. His closest physical parallel and former HoF'er: Elway himself has pledged to be working with him (for details there are several articles. More importantly ones where Elway debunks your throwing motion criticism and says they'll be working on footwork to develop the consistency he needs)

4. He'll finally have a real system. Not to criticize what they developed for him on the fly... but it was on the fly. Now they'll have a foundation to build off of and the mental game can be formed instead of a primary focus on athletic reaction.

5. One of, if not THE, best work ethics in the business.

6. It's already shown MASSIVE improvement. Reference an ESPN special in December where they highlighted his footwork improvements. Reference every quote from Elway to Mariucci to Brady and Belichick and the Pat's QB coach, etc
Devil's Advocate says...

1. Neither did Cam Newton or any other rookie QB.

2. Fair. But he's been working on his throwing mechanics since before the NFL draft. It's fair to be concerned that he's just not going to suddenly get it.

3. Sounds good. But do we know that Elway is a natural teacher or a coach? Tebow's had some pretty good football people work with him over the last few years, right?

4. Probably the strongest of your points. The trick will be his abilities getting to the point where they can work in the system.

5. I'm sure he has a great work ethic. So does most every top tier player in the NFL. You don't succeed at this level without working your ass off.

6. He's improved. But there was also a video out (which I can't seem to find now) that showed how during games he was reverting back to his bad habits. And for every guy making positive comments there's a guy making not as positive comments. You really can't believe what you hear from either side.

So we're right back where we started. You're optimistic. I'm have a little more doubt.
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Man up douche:




Respond like a big boy.
Man up.

Tell me how you KNOW he will improve?

Respond like a big boy.
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lol. he never answered the rev...come on!

both therev and I answered him as a sign of respect. we didnt jump on him. we gave him rope.

he never answered. thats how I feel is not an answer.


jesus christ!
The hell he didnt .......he owned the rev
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is anyone seeing this? Am I real. pinch me.
I don't want speculation.

I want to KNOW that he will improve. And I want you to tell me exactly how he WILL improve. I want complete assurance. Not opinion, I want facts that will show me that he WILL become elite.
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