Brilliance in Match-Ups - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 11-10-2012, 10:20 AM

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I want to dive right into one of the most creative plays that I can recall seeing in terms of game-planning favorable match-ups: The Dreessen TD.

Initially, the play looks standard… Peyton Manning hitting a TE in the back of the end zone for 6. We’ve seen it a hundred times (literally). But something caught my eye on the lineup of this play:

Curiously enough, that’s Dreessen at the top of the image lined up at split end in a single-back shotgun formation. Now my curiosity’s piqued and I start examining the play closer. That’s Tamme underneath in the slot. Now I’m wondering if they’re using the formation to give Decker or Demaryius an isolated match-up at flanker.

…nope. That’s Virgil Green.

Three Tight Ends split out wide in a shotgun? And if all of our TE’s are playing outside… who the heck is on the LOS at TE?!?!? Chris Clark, our swing tackle and extra goalline blocker.

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Sorry, I'd post more, but it's hard with the pics I have up to visually show what I'm talking about.

Wes Mantooth · 11-10-2012, 10:41 AM

that is cool. Are they matching our heavies with lb's or was that a CB on dreesen?

TheReverend · 11-10-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth

that is cool. Are they matching our heavies with lb's or was that a CB on dreesen?

You can see better in the second pic. They're all in with LBs.

DENVERDUI55 · 11-10-2012, 10:54 AM

It was awesome play. Show 3 te set so they get 2 lb on the field that haven't defended a pass in a long time and shift to shotgun spread them out. They had so many options. Fade to green, could run with 6 OL or fo what they did depending on how cincinatti decided to defend it. No way burfict or rey could cover any of our TE even Clark(well maybe but only if he dropped pass). Great play call.

TheChamp24 · 11-10-2012, 11:27 AM

Yeah that was pretty sweet, we lined up in a power goal line formation, then switched out to that look and completely caught Cincy by surprise.

BroncoMan4ever · 11-10-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Rest at: http://patrickturley.org/brilliance-in-match-ups/

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Sorry, I'd post more, but it's hard with the pics I have up to visually show what I'm talking about.

Been saying it since before last years draft, Green is going to be something good for this team. Next year he will take either Dreessen or Tamme's starting spot. He is going to get more reps in the passing game as this season goes on and be more than just a blocker.

schaaf · 11-10-2012, 12:01 PM

Something else I noticed was Decker's first touchdown was the exact same play as one of his earlier touchdowns this year. It seems they like to run it anywhere from 10-20 yards out of the end zone.

Tombstone RJ · 11-10-2012, 12:18 PM

but McCoy sucks

Tombstone RJ · 11-10-2012, 12:25 PM

this line up makes hella since on the goaline. Go big, big bodies that can out muscle, out reach the smaller DBs. Confuse the LBers. Keep a RB in place just to freeze a LBer or provide a dumpoff. As others have mentioned, lots of options. It totally baffled the Bengels, Dreesen was wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open.

s0phr0syne · 11-10-2012, 12:53 PM

Nice catch Rev!

The play happened so fast and it was obviously well designed, but I didn't really get a good look at the personnel in there. Makes sense now.

TheReverend · 11-10-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by s0phr0syne

Nice catch Rev!

The play happened so fast and it was obviously well designed, but I didn't really get a good look at the personnel in there. Makes sense now.

I got your back, amigo

Bronco Yoda · 11-10-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

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Sorry, I'd post more, but it's hard with the pics I have up to visually show what I'm talking about.

Good catch Rev. Very creative indeed.

gyldenlove · 11-10-2012, 02:06 PM

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- Pete Carroll’s passion and confidence have really infected that lockerroom and have the Seahawks competing with great teams through some unconventional methods.

Seattle is really a tale of two teams this season.

In Seattle: 4-0 with wins over Dallas, Green Bay, New England and Minnesota by an average of 8 points per game.
Away from Seattle: 1-4 with the only win being Carolina and losses to St. Louis, San Fransisco, Arizona and Detroit losing by an average of 3 points per game.

They have only scored more than 20 points in 1 of their 5 away games and that was against Detroit, at home they have scored more than 20 in 3 out of 4.

Seattle has by a wide margin the biggest homefield advantage of any team due to the very long travel distance every team but Denver has, but also a very big away disadvantage for the same reason.

I would predict they win at home against Arizona, St Louis and the Jets but lose at home to San Fransisco and I imagine they will drop all 3 remaining away games.

swaiy · 11-10-2012, 02:19 PM

Nice find. Did you notice anything match up wise on the defensive side of the ball for the Broncos?

TheReverend · 11-10-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by swaiy

Nice find. Did you notice anything match up wise on the defensive side of the ball for the Broncos?

I referenced the Miller stunt inside to isolate Faine which resulted in a sack.

The podcast has things on Ayers, Bailey, and Moore in some good depth a long with quick notes on Harris and Carter, as well.

Action · 11-10-2012, 02:58 PM

This play was brilliant due to the match ups as pointed out... Bengals defenders got their assignments mixed up and mis matches across the field... put the defense into a "thinking" mode.

I don't believe there was a screen being sold here, however you can make an argument... I personally think the defense got confused on match ups and responsibilities, while they looked to be playing zone... and these types of plays where the TE ends up at the back of the endzone running out work great against goal line zone coverages...Patriots run this all the time against zone goal line.

It's hard to tell without game tape of more games to see what the defense ran there, but obviously the Broncos saw something in tape that made them draw up that play.

If Tamme would have just ran an out route at the top of the endzone with Dreessen running and 1 or 2 yard in, Tamme probably would have been wide open too (not as open as Dresssen on this play though).

58 Mualuga's technique was so far off to really stop any passing play at the upper right half the endzone... and 99 Lawson would have been taken out by any short quick route by Dreessen.

Good work

Schism · 11-10-2012, 06:39 PM

Yeah, good stuff this week. You'd already talked about it in the podcast so I'd gone back and looked at the play already, but this is more like the kinda stuff I want to see from you for sure.

Disappointing to see how down you continue to be on Von Miller though. More spiteful, negative comments in this article despite him having a career game, can't you give the guy props just once?

We all know you're gay for Patrick Peterson but Miller is by far the better player.

TheReverend · 11-10-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Schism

Disappointing to see how down you continue to be on Von Miller though. More spiteful, negative comments in this article despite him having a career game, can't you give the guy props just once?

... Are you ****ing kidding me?

TheReverend · 11-10-2012, 07:59 PM

Action - yes screen. Dreessen slips past because the defender's trying to get past a block that never comes.

Schism · 11-10-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

... Are you ****ing kidding me?

It's all getting a bit out of hand at this point IMO.

I'm living in Melbourne right now, yesterday I was drinking a Fosters in the city and on the wall beside me in massive writing there was graffiti that just said

I h8 Von Miller

- teh Rev

I just don't see why you hate him so much, and am worried that soon this hate may consume you.

broncosteven · 11-10-2012, 08:30 PM

McCoy is the best OC we have had since Kubes left.

Love how they dictate the Defensive package by showing jumbo and then go wide.

This should also work on 3rd and short as well.

Got to love Fox trusting his guys!

theAPAOps5 · 11-10-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

... Are you ****ing kidding me?

I don't think that guy read the same thing as everyone else did. You have been very positive on Von in your past few articles.

TheReverend · 11-10-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Schism

It's all getting a bit out of hand at this point IMO.

I'm living in Melbourne right now, yesterday I was drinking a Fosters in the city and on the wall beside me in massive writing there was graffiti that just said

I h8 Von Miller

- teh Rev

I just don't see why you hate him so much, and am worried that soon this hate may consume you.

Hahaha you had me going. I was like " this is getting out of control ''

theAPAOps5 · 11-10-2012, 09:28 PM

HA, nice going Schism. Totally missed your sarcasm!

baja · 11-10-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

McCoy is the best OC we have had since Kubes left.

Love how they dictate the Defensive package by showing jumbo and then go wide.

This should also work on 3rd and short as well.

Got to love Fox trusting his guys!

Good points.

11-10-2012, 02:58 PM	#16
Action Perennial Pro-bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 884 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	This play was brilliant due to the match ups as pointed out... Bengals defenders got their assignments mixed up and mis matches across the field... put the defense into a "thinking" mode. I don't believe there was a screen being sold here, however you can make an argument... I personally think the defense got confused on match ups and responsibilities, while they looked to be playing zone... and these types of plays where the TE ends up at the back of the endzone running out work great against goal line zone coverages...Patriots run this all the time against zone goal line. It's hard to tell without game tape of more games to see what the defense ran there, but obviously the Broncos saw something in tape that made them draw up that play. If Tamme would have just ran an out route at the top of the endzone with Dreessen running and 1 or 2 yard in, Tamme probably would have been wide open too (not as open as Dresssen on this play though). 58 Mualuga's technique was so far off to really stop any passing play at the upper right half the endzone... and 99 Lawson would have been taken out by any short quick route by Dreessen. Good work Last edited by Action; 11-10-2012 at 03:43 PM..

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11-10-2012, 10:41 AM	#2
Wes Mantooth Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,456	that is cool. Are they matching our heavies with lb's or was that a CB on dreesen?

11-10-2012, 10:54 AM	#4
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,179 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	It was awesome play. Show 3 te set so they get 2 lb on the field that haven't defended a pass in a long time and shift to shotgun spread them out. They had so many options. Fade to green, could run with 6 OL or fo what they did depending on how cincinatti decided to defend it. No way burfict or rey could cover any of our TE even Clark(well maybe but only if he dropped pass). Great play call.

11-10-2012, 11:27 AM	#5
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,875	Yeah that was pretty sweet, we lined up in a power goal line formation, then switched out to that look and completely caught Cincy by surprise.

11-10-2012, 12:01 PM	#7
schaaf Bossing at its Finest No salary cap in the dope game Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montana Posts: 1,951 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	Something else I noticed was Decker's first touchdown was the exact same play as one of his earlier touchdowns this year. It seems they like to run it anywhere from 10-20 yards out of the end zone.

11-10-2012, 12:18 PM	#8
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,313 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	but McCoy sucks

11-10-2012, 12:25 PM	#9
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,313 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	this line up makes hella since on the goaline. Go big, big bodies that can out muscle, out reach the smaller DBs. Confuse the LBers. Keep a RB in place just to freeze a LBer or provide a dumpoff. As others have mentioned, lots of options. It totally baffled the Bengels, Dreesen was wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open.

11-10-2012, 12:53 PM	#10
s0phr0syne Symbiotic Absorb and Redirect Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,592 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Nice catch Rev! The play happened so fast and it was obviously well designed, but I didn't really get a good look at the personnel in there. Makes sense now.

11-10-2012, 02:19 PM	#14
swaiy Ring of Famer Next time I'll be deadly serious Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 1,333 Adopt-a-Bronco: DT88	Nice find. Did you notice anything match up wise on the defensive side of the ball for the Broncos?

11-10-2012, 06:39 PM	#17
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Yeah, good stuff this week. You'd already talked about it in the podcast so I'd gone back and looked at the play already, but this is more like the kinda stuff I want to see from you for sure. Disappointing to see how down you continue to be on Von Miller though. More spiteful, negative comments in this article despite him having a career game, can't you give the guy props just once? We all know you're gay for Patrick Peterson but Miller is by far the better player.

11-10-2012, 07:59 PM	#19
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,020 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Action - yes screen. Dreessen slips past because the defender's trying to get past a block that never comes.

11-10-2012, 08:30 PM	#21
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,056 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	McCoy is the best OC we have had since Kubes left. Love how they dictate the Defensive package by showing jumbo and then go wide. This should also work on 3rd and short as well. Got to love Fox trusting his guys!

11-10-2012, 09:28 PM	#24
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	HA, nice going Schism. Totally missed your sarcasm!