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Old 01-19-2012, 11:15 AM   #1
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:22 AM   #2
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Why would you promote someone who did a bad job? Orton and Tebow both regressed under Gase...
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:28 AM   #3
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:41 AM   #4
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Reasoning in promoting within would be you could keep Tebow comfortable with people that are already familiar with his skill-set. Not saying I'd be a fan of it, but also don't know who we would bring in...
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:56 AM   #5
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I don't know that it'd have to be an internal hire. I, and the NFL, thought that McCoy did a good job in devising an offense that took advantage of what Tebow could, and could not do, but the play calling was as inspirational as a Focus on the Family commercial. Gase's resueme beyond being a qb/wr coach is really slim. But, it'd have to be someone who knew, or could trust to believe those on the staff, where Tebow left off in the season in his journey to be an NFL QB capable of winning a championship from within the pocket, so they can evaluate how much offense to give Tebow to work with after they gauge how he progressed in the offseason.

Jeff Davidson was one of Fox's Car OC's and last I saw he was the oline coach of the Viqueens. Davidson is in the Charlie Weiss line of coaches. That's not an endorsement, but he might be less boring a playcaller than Dan Henning.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:26 PM   #6
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I don't know that it'd have to be an internal hire. I, and the NFL, thought
And by "The NFL" you mean the perpetual coaching carousels of Oakland and Miami.
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Old 01-19-2012, 01:08 PM   #7
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:07 PM   #8
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I don't know that it'd have to be an internal hire. I, and the NFL, thought that McCoy did a good job in devising an offense that took advantage of what Tebow could, and could not do, but the play calling was as inspirational as a Focus on the Family commercial.
Ain't nothing he can "not do." He's going to have to do it. Get it right, keep coaching it, practicing it, and call it.

There were a lot of reasons the passing game was breaking down against Miami and Denver. The coaches can't strike things off the playbook from 1 or 2 outings. You have to change how and when you call the plays, and come back to them.

I didn't care for the way McCoy did it in an all or nothing way.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:17 PM   #9
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I heard that Gase got into it with McCoy about his conservatism on another board.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:22 PM   #10
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I will say this - the fins are one of those franchises I love to hate so I enjoy when they're good. I miss those days.
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I heard that Gase got into it with McCoy about his conservatism on another board.
Would raise Gase a few notches imo.
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Would raise Gase a few notches imo.
Yeah, I'd think any QB coach worth his salt would be pretty livid about the situational handcuffs we've got going on. I hope that happened.
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Why would you promote someone who did a bad job? Orton and Tebow both regressed under Gase...
Tebow's regression was likely from losing Lloyd, Gaffney and then the slow down, predictable run oriented offense.
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that would definitely be interesting. but not sure who i'd rather see as the OC. Gase or Scherer.
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:45 PM   #18
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Gase or Scherer? That's the options they are considering? What a joke.
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Great source. No question this hire will happen.
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:57 PM   #20
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Gase or Scherer? That's the options they are considering? What a joke.
Yeah, I'd prefer none of the above. Gase doesn't have the resume. Scherer's another tired Panthers retread, also without much playcalling under his belt. His last NFL experience was helping Fox with the worst offense in the NFL last year.

Gun to my head, I'd pick Gase. At least he could grow into something.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:53 PM   #21
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One thing about Scherer is that he does appear to be an actual QB coach... not like Gase and McCoy - posing as one.

Also, Scherer may be more familiar with Fox's offense which would help Tebow adapt to it better possibly.

Scherer sucked developing Jimmy Clausen but anyone might have sucked in that role. It seemed the Panthers players had tuned Fox out at that point as well.

I hope this is the case...

The reality is tho that it seems Fox is intent on not trying to win with offense at all. The offense will be sacrificed to make the defenses job easier.

Fox probably rationalizes that he is doing Tebow a favor by doing this when it's really just to help his own reputation as a defensive coach.

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lol had to put the jynx on it didn't you montrose?
Lol, I hate to say I told you so...

In all seriousness, I heard three possibilities today:

1) Promote Gase to OC and hire a QB coach like Scherer, this would favor continuity and Gase has a great relationship with Tebow. Keeping the option stuff buT somewhat fazing it out eventually to a more conventional offense with or without Tebow

2) Go outside the organization for a QB guru-type to try to develop Tebow and run a more conventional offense, also setting the table to possibly work with a new QB in 2013 if Tebow fails. Like a Jim Fassel.

3) I would assume least likely, but bringing in a college OC wth a background in the option game to further advance what was implemented last year and go "all-in" with Tebow and the unique system.

Also I overheard one of the concerns, as in any similar case, could be coaches following McCoy to Miami. It's not impossible he could hire Gase as his OC (if he doesnt get/take that gig in Denver). So that will be something to watch. The craziest, but again not impossible, thing I heard was he would push management to bring Tebow to Miami. Not sure on that one but I have heard on multiple occassions that Tebow's two biggest fans at Dove Valley were McDaniels and McCoy- both of whom would now be gone. I cant see that happening but considering how we know the Broncos leadership feels about Tebow, I felt it was noteworthy.

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Also I overheard one of the concerns, as in any similar case, could be coaches following McCoy to Miami. It's not impossible he could hire Gase as his OC (if he doesnt get/take that gig in Denver). So that will be something to watch. The craziest, but again not impossible, thing I heard was he would push management to bring Tebow to Miami.
The scheme the Broncos used with Tebow and the run game complementing the defense would work even BETTER in Miami... they have better runners AND a better defense...

Bringing Tebow and McCoy in there under those circumstances would be a very smart move.
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Couple of us on here were saying if McCoy leaves you won't be getting some hot shot o coord. You will get a promotion from within. Broncos looking for stability, what don't people understand about that?

Broncos should probably just keep building the defense and try to get like the Ravens are. Flacco not much better then Orton if you ask me.
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Lol, I hate to say I told you so...
This would literally be your first chance so celebrate it!
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