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Old 01-13-2012, 12:34 PM   #1
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Default Some 43 percent of Americans believe God helps Tebow win football games

America, you dumb.

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The question, it seems, had to be asked: Does God help Tim Tebow win football games?

According to a new poll by the website Poll Position, 43 percent of Americans say "yes."

But how would Tim Tebow himself answer the question?

The perception is that as Tebow is kneeling on the sidelines during a game, he is praying to win. One of Tebow's pastors has only added to that perception, telling the celebrity gossip website TMZ that a recent Broncos six-game winning streak was "God's favor."

Asked if a less-pious quarterback would be winning such games, Pastor Wayne Hanson of Summit Church in Castle Rock, Colo., said: "No, of course not."

To be sure, Tebow would – and does – credit God for all he accomplishes on the football field. But the idea that he prays for his team to win doesn't appear to be quite correct.

The National Football League mic'd Tebow during the Broncos' come-from-behind, 13-10 win over the Chicago Bears on Dec. 11, and besides offering indisputable proof that Tebow has no future whatsoever as a singer, the video also caught him making the following prayers.

Before the game, he prayed aloud:

"Lord put a wall of protection around me and my teammates today, and we go out there and we can honor you with everything we do and say. I love you in Jesus' name."

During the fourth quarter, he prayed:

"Dear Jesus, I need you. Please come through for me. No matter what happens, win or lose, give me the strength to honor you."

Two weeks earlier, his choice of scripture when asked by Broncos Head Coach John Fox to address the team again spoke more to a desire to express communal strength and courage than an overt desire to win. He quoted Proverbs 27:17, which states: "Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another."

The poll by Poll Position is a window on the polarizing nature of Tebow. While 43 percent said Tebow's success is, at least in part, attributable to divine intervention, some 42 percent said it wasn't – and the margin of error was 3 percent.

Tebow's open faith has turned prayerful sideline genuflection into a national "Tebowing" craze as he has repeatedly led his team to victories that, by the measure of sports, seemed miraculous. In Denver, fans call Tebow the "Mile High Messiah," they have jerseys with Tim Tebow's No. 15 but the name "Jesus" on the back, they hold up signs asking "WWTD" (What Would Tebow Do)?

But his faith has also alienated viewers and players.

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs recent mocked Tebow in an ESPN interview, saying, “Once again, God had to save Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos."

What is interesting from the NFL videos, though, is how positively many players seem to respond to him. At one point, he tells Bears linebacker Lance Briggs, "I've looked forward to playing you for a long time, man. I love watching you, brother."

Briggs responds: "Thank you, baby."

At another, after being mauled by Bears defensive end Julius Pepper, he says, "Hey, good play, man."

Peppers gives him an affectionate tap on the shoulder pads.

It is a glimpse, perhaps, into why the Broncos have rallied around Tebow to turn a dismal season that began 1-4 into an unforgettable playoff run.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:37 PM   #2
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You know, I'm a Christian and all. But I can see how a Chiefs fan would have a hard time believing there is a god.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:38 PM   #3
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How many Americans believe Satan helps Belicheat out?
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:39 PM   #4
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As an agnostic, I find this disgusting. Why the hell would a supreme being have a vested interest in a specific team? Because his biggest follower is on that team? Other teams probably have just as big, (if not as vocal) followers.

Stupid Americans.

I am a huge Tebow and Broncos fan. If Tebow wins, I want it be to his talents, not because of a supreme being answering his faith.

Stupid Americans. Probably most on the ones who believe this are either red-necks or on the far right.
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Someone already beat you to this thread, Bob.

Just like we beat the Chiefs to the playoffs.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:40 PM   #6
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As an agnostic, I find this disgusting. Why the hell would a supreme being have a vested interest in a specific team? Because his biggest follower is on that team? Other teams probably have just as big, (if not as vocal) followers.

Stupid Americans.

I am a huge Tebow and Broncos fan. If Tebow wins, I want it be to his talents, not because of a supreme being answering his faith.

Stupid Americans. Probably most on the ones who believe this are either red-necks or on the far right.
What are you? Uzbek?
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:44 PM   #7
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What are you? Uzbek?
Uzbek?
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:50 PM   #8
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If Tebow wins, I want it be to his talents, not because of a supreme being answering his faith..
I think even Timmy would tell you the two are intertwined.
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Uzbek?
From Uzbekistan?

You seem to have some "unique" stereotypes about Americans.
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Generalizations sounded pretty spot on.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:57 PM   #11
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From Uzbekistan?

You seem to have some "unique" stereotypes about Americans.
I find it ironic. People who obsess over stereotypes are going at an angle that's just as stupid as those who'd think God wins games for us.
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From Uzbekistan?

You seem to have some "unique" stereotypes about Americans.

Perhaps. Just curious though. How did you get to choosing your moniker? Just curious, nothing else
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Perhaps. Just curious though. How did you get to choosing your moniker? Just curious, nothing else
Its sarcastic.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:01 PM   #14
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Dear lord in heaven , since you couldnt help me hit a curve ball , please help me throw TD passes ...Signed your loving fan Tebow
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:34 PM   #15
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Yeah, God helps Tebow win football games while children around the world die of hunger and disease. I humbly suggest God may want to reevaluate its priorities.
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Now, I love Tebow (and how his faith helps him on the field), but is it truly Christian to pray for another person to fail ('Dear God, I've worked so hard - please let him miss this field goal')?
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Terrell Suggs is also one of those idiots
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:48 PM   #18
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As an atheist, it doesn't surprise me that a vast majority of evolution-denying, young-earth, slack-jawed morons believe Tebow is being assisted by god in the outcome of his games (where was the divine presence the last three games of the regular season?). However, I think it's more important what Tim thinks; and having observed him and listened to his post-game comments, I'd be surprised if he thought god had anything to do, directly, with winning his games. My bet is Tebow believes his god is pretty much in control of everything and that everything has its purpose (win or lose). It's not about a football game but the game in a larger context as any and every other event in life. In fact, I'd wager Tebow would be appalled at the idea of god giving an interest in the outcome of one of his football games (manipulating circumstances for a Bronco's win) while allowing a child to suffer 70+ surgeries over her short 16 year life due to a debilitating disease. I give the boy more credit than that.
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Poll Position’s scientific telephone survey of 1,076 registered voters nationwide was conducted January 8, 2012. Among the 1,076 respondents to the Tebow awareness question, 756 answered yes, with only that 756 responding to the second question. The margin error for each poll question is +/- 3%. Poll results are weighted to be a representative sampling of all American adults.


43% of 1076 registered voters=America

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As an atheist, it doesn't surprise me that a vast majority of evolution-denying, young-earth, slack-jawed morons believe Tebow is being assisted by god in the outcome of his games (where was the divine presence the last three games of the regular season?).
There's such a thing as the devil too...

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In fact, I'd wager Tebow would be appalled at the idea of god giving an interest in the outcome of one of his football games (manipulating circumstances for a Bronco's win) while allowing a child to suffer 70+ surgeries over her short 16 year life due to a debilitating disease. I give the boy more credit than that.
I disagree... because Tebow could see himself as being an instrument for movement.. If God is in all things why wouldn't he be in football games too? Or at least football games are a side effect of some battle between good and evil or as even just a metaphor.
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I disagree... because Tebow could see himself as being an instrument for movement.. If God is in all things why wouldn't he be in football games too? Or at least football games are a side effect of some battle between good and evil or as even just a metaphor.
O boy... here come the fireworks.
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O boy... here come the fireworks.
I wonder if the Nazi worship God or the Devil on Mars....
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Now, I love Tebow (and how his faith helps him on the field), but is it truly Christian to pray for another person to fail ('Dear God, I've worked so hard - please let him miss this field goal')?
You pray for God's will to be done.

No matter what the circumstances are to you individually, and no matter if the outcome makes sense to you or not.
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However, I think it's more important what Tim thinks; and having observed him and listened to his post-game comments, I'd be surprised if he thought god had anything to do, directly, with winning his games.
The dude was praying HARD on the sidelines before the last possession of the KC-Denver game. I mean he was DEEP in prayer.

He literally thought if he prayed hard enough, god was gonna win that game for him.
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The dude was praying HARD on the sidelines before the last possession of the KC-Denver game. I mean he was DEEP in prayer.

He literally thought if he prayed hard enough, god was gonna win that game for him.

U talking bout the arrowhead game? Or the mile high game, because he did pray hard for the arrowhead game and won it. It was part of the 3 straight road win against divisional opponents.
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