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Old 01-02-2012, 05:43 AM   #1
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Default 3 passing attempts in an entire half of the game?

3 games with less than 4 passing attempts in each half on average? OMG

This makes 7 quarters, nearly two games worth out of the last three games, where Tebow was held to just 2 passing attempts per quarter on average.

Fox and Elway have carved out the best meat from passing game, and relegated Tebow to being unleashed only during garbage time. I am so sick of seeing Fox giving tebow scraps.

Relegating Tebows body of work to garbage time at the end of games, is total BS> 8 straight passing plays at the end of a game where Tebow's passing attempts accounted for just 1/4 of the plays up to that point?

Tebow was held to just one passing attempt in the 4th quarter outside of the last minute, just add the previous minute from the drive at the end of the 3rd to get an entire quarter

Add that quarter to the first quarter where Tebow only managed to get two passing attempts, you get yet another game where Tebow only managed to throw three times in an entire half of play.

How do you not allow Tebow to record a passing attempt on half of his drives of the 4th quarter? 11 rushing plays to just one passing attempt in the 4th quarter outside of the last minute of regulation? Really?

Four games this season Tebow has been held to less than 100 yards passing on average.

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Old 01-02-2012, 05:48 AM   #2
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Although your fuzzy math is goobrish, there is some legitimacy to the idea that the coaching staff is not running plays to develop a flow in the passing game.

Its most noted by the refusal to run short pass plays on first down.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:55 AM   #3
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EFX still doesn't trust Tebow.Very frustrating..If given a chance, they will start Orton over Tebow.

Due to pressure from fans, they started Tebow.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:58 AM   #4
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Fox and Elway utilizing a spuratic passing scheme, have shut down any opportunity whatsoever for this young passing offense to possess rythm and chemistry.

Fox and Elway slamming the breaks on the passing game, while going full throttle on the rush, resulted in nothing short of burnout that led to the past three blowouts.

I am sick of watching Foxes burnout offense.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:39 AM   #5
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I sit right under the All 22 end zone camera and watch the plays develop. Have been for 20 years so I seen alot of QB come into Denver. Develop is the key word here because the windows are there but Tebow waits for the WR to be open instead of throwing to a spot where the WR will be. I also watch the sidelines and have never seen McCoy so frustrated as I did yesterday at times throwing his hands in the air. The coaches do not let Tebow throw to the middle of the field for fear of INT due to just bad accuracy.

When was the last time you saw a flea flicker desgined to run a single WR on a deep out instead of right down the field on a post. That play alone should tell you all you need to know about what they want Tebow to do. Another play was a come back to DT. DT ran a hook and the ball should have been throw on time and rhymin. Instead Tebow held the ball and DT kept running improvising and caught an out pass instead.

Tebow just holds the ball way too long. Plain and simple. Sure a screen here ot there may work once for 10 yards but it won't move the team down the field. Also Tim is a fumble machine and a sack machine for an OLine that doesn't know where he will be.

It is what it is. Tebow cannot move this offense in rythim and convert 3rd downs.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:44 AM   #6
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Tebow can't throw over the middle?
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:50 AM   #7
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If Tebow can not really make simple type of throws, then no way can they have him at QB next year. Somehow he could make them last year while he played those last 3 games and in college, but of his confidence is that shot, then you can't win with a QB with no confidence and afraid to throw the ball.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:52 AM   #8
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This makes 7 quarters, nearly two games worth out of the last three games, where Tebow was held to just 2 passing attempts per quarter on average.

Fox and Elway have carved out the best meat from passing game, and relegated Tebow to being unleashed only during garbage time. I am so sick of seeing Fox giving tebow scraps.

Relegating Tebows body of work to garbage time at the end of games, is total BS> 8 straight passing plays at the end of a game where Tebow's passing attempts accounted for just 1/4 of the plays up to that point?

Tebow was held to just one passing attempt in the 4th quarter outside of the last minute, just add the previous minute from the drive at the end of the 3rd to get an entire quarter

Add that quarter to the first quarter where Tebow only managed to get two passing attempts, you get yet another game where Tebow only managed to throw three times in an entire half of play.

How do you not allow Tebow to record a passing attempt on half of his drives of the 4th quarter? 11 rushing plays to just one passing attempt in the 4th quarter outside of the last minute of regulation? Really?

Four games this season Tebow has been held to less than 100 yards passing on average.

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Old 01-02-2012, 06:54 AM   #9
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But remember.. Tebow never had problems with his accuracy in college.. he didn't have accuracy problems until QB coaches got a hold of him..

Urban Meyer was smart enough to not let guys mess with Tebow's mechanics much because this is what you get. Every idiot out there thinks they are a QB expert yet Joe Montana said they should have never messed with it..
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:56 AM   #10
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If Tebow can not really make simple type of throws, then no way can they have him at QB next year. Somehow he could make them last year while he played those last 3 games and in college, but of his confidence is that shot, then you can't win with a QB with no confidence and afraid to throw the ball.
Elway and fox are really doing a number on Tebows confidence, these are the last two guys that ought to be gearing this guy up for success in this league.

How is a QB supposed to develop confidence when he is only getting 2 passing attempts per quarter in virtually 2 games worth of quarters out of the last three?
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:03 AM   #11
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:26 AM   #12
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When is the last time you have seen a QB go three straight games while throwing the ball only 3 times on average per half of those games?
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:31 AM   #13
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Tebow can't hit wide open WR's so why waste the down.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:34 AM   #14
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Tebow can't hit wide open WR's so why waste the down.
Don't you see? MacGruder has adequately explained that all of Tebow's problems, including his crappy accuracy, are the fault of the coaching staff. They "ruined" him.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:37 AM   #15
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Tebow just holds the ball way too long. Plain and simple.

This. And it's getting frustrating to watch at this point. I'm semi-ok with the run first mentality of our team but when a pass play is called please throw the f'ing ball on time instead of holding it and running around looking for the kill shot. Throw the f'ing ball.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:38 AM   #16
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They clearly don't trust him and he clearly cannot hit receivers on the short routes. He can't make a decision to save his life and won't let the ball go.

I read somewhere most of his passes were long due to him needing the play to develop longer. We've seen what happens when we abandon our gameplan and let him throw it a bunch, it's a disaster.
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Maybe they should call some short stuff to put him in rhythm. No chance of the running game working this week.
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This whole year has been wasted in terms of developing Tebow's passing game because they don't let him throw. Look , the playoffs are nice but we were never going to win the SB. They should have used this year as a training course but that is now wasted. If anything, they have stunted his growth, it's maddening.
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Folks need to come to grips with the fact that Tebow is being put in the worst position possible to try and develope with this young WR corp. Once you do that then everything else, namely the past three losses make complete sense.
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They clearly don't trust him and he clearly cannot hit receivers on the short routes. He can't make a decision to save his life and won't let the ball go.
Tebows near perfect QB rating in the vikings game where he went 7 for 7 on short passes for the game winning TD drive, obliterates your argument.
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Tebow can't hit wide open WR's so why waste the down.
We have pocket passers like Cutler and Orton that couldn't take to playoffs.
Plummer and Tebow took us to playoffs.
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EFX still doesn't trust Tebow.Very frustrating..If given a chance, they will start Orton over Tebow.

Due to pressure from fans, they started Tebow.

Looks like the fans got the broncos into the playoffs, because there is no way we make the playoffs with Orton starting all year. I know there is no proof, but 1-4 start is all I got. I dont think orton woulda gone 7-4, but if someone does think he could have, then we agree to disagree.
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We have pocket passers like Cutler and Orton that couldn't take to playoffs.
Plummer and Tebow took us to playoffs.
great point.
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We have pocket passers like Cutler and Orton that couldn't take to playoffs.
Plummer and Tebow took us to playoffs.
I think you are forgetting the contributions of Marion Barber and Philip Rivers.
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I think you are forgetting the contributions of Marion Barber and Philip Rivers.

If Demarious Thomas doesnt drop the bomb in Chicago and we dont get a field goal blocked, the Marion barber contribution never happens.

Phillup Rivers had a chance to beat the Broncos in San diego, but he couldnt get it done. San Diego is in the playoffs if that happens.

We can play the if game all day long, bottom line is your Denver broncos are the AFC west champs at 8-8. I will take it after the 6 year playoff drought.
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