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Old 11-21-2013, 05:45 PM   #1876
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Yeah, the read-option really died out in the pro-game with him...

Oh wait.


Yeah, just like your stupid take that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position as a receiving weapon, when there have been many instances of TE's who became big popular stars in the NFL over the course of decades prior to Hernandez and Gronkowski ever showing up in NE, like Ditka, Casper, Sharpe, Christensen, Newsome, Winslow, Gonzalez etc....

The option has been around for decades, and was used many times in the NFL prior to Tim Tebow arriving onto the scene....I'm not gonna even bring up the fact that our very own Norris Weese ran a few option plays whenever he played QB for us, or that our very own John Fox used an option offense using DeAngelo Williams basically setting up in a shallow shotgun formation and running in the Carolina Panthers final two games of 2006, hence the name "wildcat"....

Instead I'll just bring up the most recent examples of it being used more than once or twice a game prior to 2011.

[] 2004 Michael Vick ran it when he had Warrick Dunn and TJ Duckett on the Falcons who went 11-5 and ranked #1 in rushing yards losing the NFC title game...they also used it in 2006 and again led the NFL in rushing yards per game

[] 2008 the Miami Dolphins used the "wildcat" option and went 11-5, after going 1-15 the season prior.

[] 2009 the Titans Vince Young ran the option, and it helped Chris Johnson rush for over 2000 yards and they ranked 2nd in rushing yards

See the problem is you seem to forget that those of us who have been around a lot longer than you have witnessed things that you think are new or revolutionizing when all they are is a new twist to an old trick.

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Old 11-21-2013, 05:48 PM   #1877
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Yeah, just like your stupid take that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position as a receiving weapon.
...and stopped reading.

That sho wasn't me. Nice try though.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:55 PM   #1878
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The thread that never ends...it just goes on and on my friends...


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Old 11-21-2013, 05:55 PM   #1879
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...and stopped reading.

That sho wasn't me. Nice try though.


KCStud said that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position and you defended his take, which basically means you agreed with it

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Old 11-21-2013, 05:58 PM   #1880
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The thread that never ends...it just goes on and on my friends...


Well just like Seinfeld and Big Bang Theory, great comedies never get too old
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:05 PM   #1881
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:12 PM   #1882
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:15 PM   #1883
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KCStud said that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position and you defended his take, which basically means you agreed with it

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lol, I'd say I'm surprised you've stooped to "guilt by association" but we all know you go much, much lower than that.

Pray tell, which part of this post do you disagree with?

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I'd honestly assume that wasn't a serious post if I didn't know you were dumber than a flaming bag of ****.

Yes some of those greats made the TE position more popular, but just because other people have also made the position more popular certainly doesn't mean someone didn't make it even more popular. These things are not mutually exclusive.

In 2011 when moderately healthy, they produced over 2,200 yards from the TE position.

To put that in perspective (and piggy backing off your citing Tony Gonzalez as an example), the Falcons produced less than 1,000. In fact, the Patriots #2 TE outproduced Tony, ceteris paribus.
Summary because you can barely read:

I'm saying he DIDN'T make the position popular, but he did make it MORE popular
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:21 PM   #1884
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eagles get down to 52:

Chip says Eagles will add a quarterback, Tebow not good enough

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eagles get down to 52:

Chip says Eagles will add a quarterback, Tebow not good enough

ouch

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-good-enough/
I'm almost feeling sorry for him. It'd be one thing if Kelly was going with just 2 QBS but to be cut because you're not good enough to be the third string QB sucks.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:20 AM   #1893
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I'm almost feeling sorry for him. It'd be one thing if Kelly was going with just 2 QBS but to be cut because you're not good enough to be the third string QB sucks.
i'd feel sorry for him if he has expired every opportunity, but he hasn't. He needs to go to canada and see if he can get some reps in a passing offense.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:22 AM   #1894
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I wonder if Kelly would've traded for Ponder instead of Raiders cutting him.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:23 AM   #1895
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Tebow would be a better RB than Ball.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:26 AM   #1896
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To the Tebow haters. Why you guys still dics?
To the Tebow lovers. Why do to still think he can play?
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I wonder if Kelly would've traded for Ponder instead of Raiders cutting him.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:34 AM   #1898
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To the Tebow haters. Why you guys still dics?
To the Tebow lovers. Why do to still think he can play?
no hate, he's just not good enough
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Old 09-05-2015, 12:39 PM   #1899
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no hate, he's just not good enough to play qb in the NFL
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it's over and there is a clear winner and loser to this debate.
Tebow was not good enough to make it as a 3 team QB for his 4 th team
He also had some of the most creative minds in the nfl in Kelly and billy B/McD and they could not use his skills as a QB
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