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Old 06-25-2012, 05:16 PM   #1051
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it's official: Tebow Still Sucks

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But as a quarterback, 53 percent of the nearly 900 voters surveyed preferred Manning under center for the Broncos. Only 21 percent said they would rather have Tebow as the Broncos’ quarterback, while 25 percent selected “not sure.”

Other notable items from the poll:

- Tebow’s favorability percentages were higher among women and older voters.

- John Elway received a 63 percent favorability rating among the participants in the poll.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...s-weigh/14050/
Goes to show you that women and old people vote with their heart and not their mind (little they have compared to us younger men) and 37% of the people are Raider fans for not having a favorable rating for Elway.
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Old 06-25-2012, 05:29 PM   #1052
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Here you go from Tebow himself. He admits that he totally sucks and is no good. MacGruder replies that it really wasn't him that said this:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/T...terback-062512
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:43 PM   #1053
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Here you go from Tebow himself. He admits that he totally sucks and is no good. MacGruder replies that it really wasn't him that said this:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/T...terback-062512
Elway made him say this.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:30 PM   #1054
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I respect Tim Tebow and am grateful for his play in Denver. I will follow his career with interest.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:33 PM   #1055
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I think the juveniles bashing Tebow on this thread are poor fans, not worthy of the 6 Jay Cutler gave them.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:39 PM   #1056
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I watch football for fun. Tebow gave us more fun last year than we've had in the past 5 combined. I wish him the best.

Now... its PMFM time.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:18 AM   #1057
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I watch football for fun. Tebow gave us more fun last year than we've had in the past 5 combined. I wish him the best.

Now... its PMFM time.
Where have you been?
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:05 AM   #1058
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When McDaniels drafted Tebow, Mike Mayock said: "redshirt him at least once, maybe redshirt him twice". Everybody knew Tebow was a raw quarterback that would need time to adjust to the professional game. One of Tebow's main issues is his ability to go through progressions and find open receivers quickly. The shotgun offense at Florida was not really a big issue. The elite quarterbacks in the NFL are often taking snaps from shotgun formations. And Tebow eventually learned how to take the snap from under center and drop back. In his second season, he was still struggling to read the field and distribute the ball to receivers that were not his primary target.

Again, we must remember he was considered a project. Kyle Orton got 1st team reps during the 2010 offseason, and he started most of the season. Then McDaniels, the man that had a plan for Tebow, was fired. Lockout in 2011. Orton got once again all 1st team reps in training camp. So, Tebow never had a full offseason as the starting quarterback to get plenty of quality reps with the starters. He had to share reps with the other backup quarterbacks. As a backup, he obviously got very few reps during the regular season. All these facts hurt Tebow's development. And after all the praise for Kyle Orton, the Broncos decided to let Tebow lead a 1-4 team.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I've ever seen a quarterback be more humiliated by his own team. Seriously. Tebow has his flaws, he is far from a polished product, but damn. What the Broncos did was painful to watch. It was a lesson on how not to develop your young quarterback and make him look stupid.

1) Early in the season, they used him as a wide receiver. A young, raw quarterback, with his ability questioned by a legion of detractors, was lined up as a wide receiver. And he was there just to look silly, because Orton not even looked at him.

2) When Tebow was named the starter, the Broncos decided to trade their best wide receiver for a late round pick. The player that can make all kinds of crazy catches, even when he is not open, was gone from the roster.

3) The Broncos' plan: get rid of the veteran receiver that wanted his share of receptions; install a run-heavy offense with few passing attempts, using the young, unproven receivers as blockers. And John Fox at some point was preaching "balance" on offense.

4) Zone-read option. College offense. Actually, not even a college offense, because McCoy only installed a small number of plays and kept calling the same plays. What we saw was not the Florida offense, just a few plays from that system. Will Muschamp used to call screen passes, something McCoy refused to do with Tebow. Aaron Hernandez, the receiving tight end, often was Tebow's primary target, heavily involved in the offense. As McCoy himself admitted, the tight ends were not even Tebow's second read.

5) 8 passes against the Chiefs, almost all of them were deep bombs down the field. This is not how you develop a quarterback. This is how you make him look, once and for all, like a fullback.

6) In the first half of their final four games, the Broncos ran the ball on 45-of-49 first-down attempts. The most predictable offense in the NFL. Awful playcalling, probably because McCoy did not have any experience with that kind of offense.

7) Finally, as a reward for winning a playoff game, something the Broncos had not experienced in 5 years, Tebow was traded for a 4th round pick. I understand it's part of the business, especially when a new regime is in control. McDaniels kicked Cutler, Elway kicked Tebow. Hypothetically, a brand new regime would also kick Osweiler (another raw quarterback) and find its own guy.

In the end, the raw quarterback was not developed. He was asked to run the ball and operate a simple zone-read option that was figured out. The Broncos made Tebow look silly. A wildcat freak. This is not rocket science. The Broncos had a system in place. Orton was playing in that system and everybody was comfortable with it. Tebow should have been asked to run that same offense. No zone-read crap. Call a passing play. Tebow has freedom to improvise and run if he can't find an open target. Make him accountable. He must be efficient. Let him prove he is better than Orton.

If he can't run the offense, then keep him on the bench. Elway and McCoy could not wait to get rid of Tebow. "Give me a real quarterback". Well, Orton and Quinn are known as conventional quarterbacks, so the team had other options. Now, Tebow is a circus act in New York. He is the fullback wearing #15. They will occasionally unleash the freak and let him run near the goal line. There are other raw quarterbacks like Tebow in the NFL. Colin Kaepernick is a good example. The 49ers don't treat him like a stupid athlete that has no future as a quarterback.

If you can't develop a quarterback, or if you simply don't want to develop him, then at least don't ridicule him. All you have to do is say: "believe me, he is not ready. We must redshirt him".
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:33 AM   #1060
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:04 PM   #1061
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Niners brought in Josh Johnson and he already jumped Colin on the depth chart. They looked at manning and ended up giving a bad QB a long term contract. Also flat out saying they NEVER wanted Tebow and it was embarrassed they were actually rumored.

Ya good way to bring along Colin.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:28 PM   #1062
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When McDaniels drafted Tebow, Mike Mayock said: "redshirt him at least once, maybe redshirt him twice". Everybody Blah, blah, blah...

Honestly, I'm not sure if I've ever seen a quarterback be more humiliated by his own team. Seriously. Blah, blah, crying, blah, blah some more.

1) Early in the season, blah, blah, blah.

2) When Tebow was named the starter, blah, blah, sniff, tears, sniff.

3) The Broncos' plan: blah, blah, not playing Tebow.

4) Zone-read option. College offense. Actually, not even a college offense, because McCoy blah, blah blah. Oh yah, blah.

5) 8 passes against the Chiefs, sniffles and blah, blah.

6) In the first half of their final four games, blah, blah, blah, I need a life, blah.

7) Finally, I'm winding this up and I think I have a point.

In the end, nope, no point other than I'm butt hurt.

If he can't run the offense, cry louder and maybe things will change.

If you can't develop a quarterback, draft another guy like Osweiler.
get over it already.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:30 PM   #1063
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jet...-kick-returner

Jets not taking any chances when it comes to developing Tebow into a QB.
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:05 PM   #1064
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Jets not taking any chances when it comes to developing Tebow into a QB.
Tim playing special teams isn't that big of a deal... the Patriots already showed that an offensive lineman can make a 70 yard KO return, why couldn't a 250lb FB?
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:46 PM   #1065
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:53 PM   #1066
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Hey look, team "Can't Stand the Circus" is coming back for another encore.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:56 PM   #1067
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Hey look, team "Can't Stand the Circus" is coming back for another encore.
and the orangemane welcomes the "peyton manning sucks brigade"

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and the orangemane welcomes the "peyton manning sucks brigade"

Well if he can win a playoff game, he'll get us back where we were.

Unfortunately he's only done that 4 seasons out of 13.

But at the end of the day, my crow gets served with a trophy. Yours comes topped with anything less.
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Well if he can win a playoff game, he'll get us back where we were.

Unfortunately he's only done that 4 seasons out of 13.

But at the end of the day, my crow gets served with a trophy. Yours comes topped with anything less.
i'm still a broncos fan either way
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:03 AM   #1070
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i'm still a broncos fan either way
Which is so obviously not the case for the people who supported our last QB.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:08 AM   #1071
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Which is so obviously not the case for the people who supported our last QB.
down here in the springs? I would have to agree
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:19 AM   #1072
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How about the Ortonites. Were they excommunicated as well?
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How about the Ortonites. Were they excommunicated as well?
you tell me...I didn't know any of them
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Well if he can win a playoff game, he'll get us back where we were.

Unfortunately he's only done that 4 seasons out of 13.

But at the end of the day, my crow gets served with a trophy. Yours comes topped with anything less.
So anything less wouldn't have happened with tebow? Tebow isn't even a QB anymore.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:16 AM   #1075
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Hey look, team "Can't Stand the Circus" is coming back for another encore.
He said completly ignoring the article... KICK COVERAGE! A Qb... wtf?
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