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Old 05-31-2012, 10:38 AM   #651
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That you never should have been banned.
Nice......though Old Dude said afterwards that he had no regrets and would do it again.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:43 AM   #652
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Nice......though Old Dude said afterwards that he had no regrets and would do it again.
What else could he say. I bet he knows that was over the top.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:51 PM   #653
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1. If this place is such a joke to you, then leave. Nobody's forcing you to post here.

2. This statement couldn't be more false. PRETTY MUCH ALL WE DO HERE is question and find fault with the decisions Bowlen and Co. make.

Name one decision this board was 100% in agreement with.
1. I come here cause I'm a bronco fan and somehow this is the best broncos board.

2. Not many seem to question too much. Just go team go.

Not one that I can think of. But god forbid if someone says anything the hardcore posters say.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:54 PM   #654
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This place is a joke cause most everyone here is do not question the front office... do no question the establishment.



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Old 05-31-2012, 12:56 PM   #655
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search the poster lonestar...that guy hates everything good about the Broncos during the Shanny era.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:58 PM   #656
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search the poster lonestar...that guy hates everything good about the Broncos during the Shanny era.
He hates me too
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:59 PM   #657
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:15 PM   #658
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:46 PM   #659
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1. I come here cause I'm a bronco fan and somehow this is the best broncos board.

2. Not many seem to question too much. Just go team go.

Not one that I can think of. But god forbid if someone says anything the hardcore posters say.
You must not be around the first hour of FA or draft day.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:49 PM   #660
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Young was drafted #1 overall all in the USFL . Marino was also drafted #1 overall by the USFL by LA Express. Whoever was running that team knew QBs

Young was traded for a 2nd and a 4th
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:48 PM   #661
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The market for Tebow was destroyed by the polarizing nature of Tebow's skill set among scouts and by the Broncos own poor handling of the situation (making it clear he was getting traded or cut, no other alternatives).
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No. As was pointed out above, his performance and how it translated to other team's systems killed his market.
I semi-agree/disagree. I honestly don't think Tebow's performance on the field destroyed his value as much as people like to believe. He was seen by almost everybody as a project, including Denver, and logically would be viewed by whoever was trading for him as such. I think Drek is correct, though, in that Denver really squandered much of the value he could have given them by making it blatantly clear to the rest of the league he was out the door.

It's obvious nobody was going to be trading for him to be the starting QB, so it's silly for people to keep bringing that up. That said, I still believe the main detriment to value is the circus that surrounds him and the noise the media creates because of him. Without that nonsense I think he'd have garnered much more on the market, even as a backup/project/role player/QBOTF.

This is all pretty pointless to post about, though, because without the circus the guy would have never been traded in the first place.
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:37 PM   #662
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First of all, McDaniels should have never drafted Tebow since he decided to have Orton as his QB instead of Cutler. It was his job to win with Orton. And McDaniels had just made a trade for Brady Quinn, a former 1st round pick that did not get much playing time in Cleveland. The Broncos did not need another QB, especially a project like Tebow. McDaniels should have surrounded Orton with better weapons instead of bringing an unnecessary controversy fueled by religious fanatics. And Quinn, the guy that came to work as a backup and eventually compete for the starting job, was completely sabotaged, thrown out of the equation.

And this post is coming from someone who supported Tebow - as a player, not as a religious idol - once he became a Bronco. But that draft choice did not make any sense. Elway could not get ideal value for Tebow because he did not show any patience. The whole NFL knew Elway just wanted to get rid of Tebow as soon as possible. There was no hard stance to wait for proper compensation.
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:52 PM   #663
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1. Same could be said for Steve Young.

2. The Jets let their freshly signed #2 QB go for nothing when they added Tebow, clearly making him Mark Sanchez' competition.
Young was traded for a 2 and a 4.
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:54 PM   #664
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First of all, McDaniels should have never drafted Tebow since he decided to have Orton as his QB instead of Cutler. It was his job to win with Orton. And McDaniels had just made a trade for Brady Quinn, a former 1st round pick that did not get much playing time in Cleveland. The Broncos did not need another QB, especially a project like Tebow. McDaniels should have surrounded Orton with better weapons instead of bringing an unnecessary controversy fueled by religious fanatics. And Quinn, the guy that came to work as a backup and eventually compete for the starting job, was completely sabotaged, thrown out of the equation.

And this post is coming from someone who supported Tebow - as a player, not as a religious idol - once he became a Bronco. But that draft choice did not make any sense. Elway could not get ideal value for Tebow because he did not show any patience. The whole NFL knew Elway just wanted to get rid of Tebow as soon as possible. There was no hard stance to wait for proper compensation.
Or noone thought he was worth more than a 4th rd pick
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:16 PM   #665
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Or noone thought he was worth more than a 4th rd pick
I'd say it's even surprising that someone offered a 4th round pick when Elway was not willing to keep Tebow on the roster. The trade value went down the drain. And apparently the Jaguars tried to match the Jets' offer. If a team had offered just a 7th round pick, what would Elway do? Keep Tebow during OTAs and wait for a better offer? I don't think so. The Broncos wanted to get something done in a hurry, so a 4th round pick was even a positive surprise.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:55 PM   #666
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you gotta understand,noone knows football like jay3. NFl teams/coaches are all idiots. Jay3 likes to sit behind a computer,as opposed to turning in a resume to an NFL team.
Why do you come to a discussion forum if you all you want to hear is what an NFL team is doing? The whole assumption of a board like this existing is that people have their opinions.

I thought Kyle Orton didn't have it. Two different NFL teams have given him the keys. I didn't let that stop me from having an opinion.

Josh McDaniel was an NFL coach -- apparently you think he made some idiotic judgments. That's okay -- its good to have an opinion.

There are surprises all the time in this league. That's what makes it fun.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:54 PM   #667
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Default The Tebow thing i dont get?

We just let a playmaker walk once more.....

Please explain or is just the circus?
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:55 PM   #668
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:55 PM   #669
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Default The Tebow thing i dont get?

Why we just let a playmaker walk once more.....

Please explain or is it just the circus thing?
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:56 PM   #670
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Why we just let a playmaker walk once more.....

Please explain or is it just the circus thing?
When did this happen?
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:56 PM   #671
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Hmmmmm. We've never discussed this on the Mane. You should probably create a new thread about it.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:56 PM   #672
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:56 PM   #673
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Hmmmmm. We've never discussed this on the Mane. You should probably create a new thread about it.
Or two.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:57 PM   #674
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I like where this thread is going... again.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:58 PM   #675
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150 posts in three years.....you should go back to just lurking. You're better at that.
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