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Old 05-30-2012, 09:32 AM   #526
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The last three all have arguments to be made for them. As far as I'm concerned, John Fox is 1-4 as the head coach of the Denver Broncos.

And why Tebowoners cannot be taken seriously. The credit for our run afte Orton was benched is all Tebow and nothing to do with the coaches or the defense. I give Tebow a lot of credit for the great stretch but to give all the love to Tebow is assinine.
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And why Tebowoners cannot be taken seriously. The credit for our run afte Orton was benched is all Tebow and nothing to do with the coaches or the defense. I give Tebow a lot of credit for the great stretch but to give all the love to Tebow is assinine.
And so is the world of an NFL QB. All the credit and all the blame. Hell Manning will be the reason Denver makes it back to the playoffs for a second straight year, but he will not be the fault in the majorities eyes no matter how poorly he plays in that situation.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:46 AM   #528
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And why Tebowoners cannot be taken seriously. The credit for our run afte Orton was benched is all Tebow and nothing to do with the coaches or the defense. I give Tebow a lot of credit for the great stretch but to give all the love to Tebow is assinine.
I guess that means Tebow is 1-2 without Fox.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:48 AM   #529
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And so is the world of an NFL QB. All the credit and all the blame. Hell Manning will be the reason Denver makes it back to the playoffs for a second straight year, but he will not be the fault in the majorities eyes no matter how poorly he plays in that situation.
So Terrell Davis has nothing to do with winning the super bowl?
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And so is the world of an NFL QB. All the credit and all the blame. Hell Manning will be the reason Denver makes it back to the playoffs for a second straight year, but he will not be the fault in the majorities eyes no matter how poorly he plays in that situation.
the perception of people who know nothing about football.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:53 AM   #531
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the perception of people who know nothing about football.
Exactly. The thought of Montana being the ONLY reason the niners won, while Rice and that defense had nothing to do with it is ridiculous. Eli is the only reason the giants won, while their Dline and recievers had nothing to do with it.

Who even thinks that way.
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I think his Christianity was an additional thorn in his side, not because of the religion itself, but because so many of Tebow's fans were only fans BECAUSE of the religion issue, and not because of what he could actually do on the field.
It did actually get pretty ridiculous.
ding!ding!ding! we got a winner. those of us who saw tebow for what he was as a QB,if you can call him that, only ever pointed to his play on the field,I don't remember anyone going after teblow directly because of his religion.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:11 AM   #533
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I guess that means Tebow is 1-2 without Fox.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:13 AM   #534
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Good QBs accept all the blame and deflect all the credit.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:14 AM   #535
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On average, the hard-on-erry I've seen from the Brock suckers has far surpassed the kind of hopefulness that most "Teboners" voiced.
LULZ.

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Old 05-30-2012, 10:18 AM   #536
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On average, the hard-on-erry I've seen from the Brock suckers has far surpassed the kind of hopefulness that most "Teboners" voiced.
This post is proof the world is subjective and not objective.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:18 AM   #537
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...no doubt

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Old 05-30-2012, 10:28 AM   #538
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, it's the biggest hurdle to being "human".
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:55 AM   #539
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This post is proof the world is subjective and not objective.
Elway's words alone are more homertastic than what most Camp Tebowners have ever said here.

I don't think many of us ever predicted that Tebow would come off the bench and instantly compete for championships.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:57 AM   #540
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I don't think many of us ever predicted that Tebow would come off the bench and instantly compete for championships.
Huh? Are you saying that he has?
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:33 AM   #541
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So Terrell Davis has nothing to do with winning the super bowl?
WTF does Davis being one reason why Denver finally won a SB have to do with QBs getting all the glory and all the blame? Way to take what I said way out of context.

But, it is the life of the NFL QB. Is it right? Well no. But it is how it goes.


Football is a team sport. One individual doesn't win anything on his own.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:39 AM   #542
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Well that's a little bit different than what you said earlier. First it was all about thier stats so they can get pro bowls and into Canton, now it's about the team, their family and making the most money they can before they are no longer an asset to the NFL. Gotcha.
No, it's not different from what I said earlier; it's perhaps a bit different from the way you tried to spin what I said earlier though.

How many times did we see the WRs criticized on this forum during the timeframe while Tebow was our starter? (almost every week someone was saying the WRs sucked) The fact is... when the OC only calls 8 pass plays a game, there's not much opportunity for any WR to excel. And a WR who doesn't "stand out" in any way is not going to remain on the team... or even in the NFL... for long.

But don't just take my word for it... I distinctly recall seeing Jerry Rice on ESPN or the NFL network (around the time when the move was made from Orton to Tebow) stating unequivocally that he personally would find it "frustrating" to play on a team with Tim Tebow as his QB. I'm assuming you'll agree that Jerry Rice has some idea of what a WR mindset might be. Maybe Jerry's "just a hater" though.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:45 AM   #543
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Elway's words alone are more homertastic than what most Camp Tebowners have ever said here.

I don't think many of us ever predicted that Tebow would come off the bench and instantly compete for championships.
You really enjoy this, don't you?
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On average, the hard-on-erry I've seen from the Brock suckers has far surpassed the kind of hopefulness that most "Teboners" voiced.
Not really... I only see one Osweiler thread on the main page; IIRC there were always at least 5 active Tebow threads going.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:49 AM   #545
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I was under the impression that all the Osweiler homers on the board right now were gimmicks.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:54 AM   #546
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I was under the impression that all the Osweiler homers on the board right now were gimmicks.
Are you sure those people exist?
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:59 AM   #547
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On average, the hard-on-erry I've seen from the Brock suckers has far surpassed the kind of hopefulness that most "Teboners" voiced.
lulz wait wut?

80 percent of the board b****ed about the Brock draft pick and one guy created a novelty Brock themed account. Other than that, point me to these mythical Brock huggers that you're talking about.
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when the OC only calls 8 pass plays a game, there's not much opportunity for any WR to excel.
Change two letters in that sentence and you sound just like a Teboner.
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Old 05-30-2012, 12:10 PM   #549
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You really enjoy this, don't you?
It's honestly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard a coach or GM say.

Most actively try to dial down the expectations placed on a rookie. John makes it sound like the Broncos will barely notice whether its Brock or Peyton Manning on the field.

Hopefully it won't matter for a few years. But it just fits into the same pattern that makes a guy think that John has insane expectations for a first-season QB. Hopefully he'll figure that out. Or else he'll make the Shanahan QB-carousel look downright homerly in comparison.
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Change two letters in that sentence and you sound just like a Teboner.
We'll have the same WRs this year... do you believe there will be a single game in which the game plan only calls for 8 passes? Manning can kill the opposing team through the air; Tebow's strength was running the ball. With Manning, our WRs' primary role will be catching the ball; with Tebow it was run-blocking. The game plan will be totally different because the strengths of the QB are different.
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