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Old 12-29-2011, 06:41 AM   #1
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Default Schefter: Tebow to start in 2012

https://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/sta...27340613992448

I had a hard time finding this tweet today, this was before the buffalo game...was this discussed here?
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:03 AM   #2
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Heard this **** last year...
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:43 AM   #4
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Heard this **** last year...
To the iggy list you go, you negative Bronco hating POS who has eyes for Tebow and Tebow only.
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2012 should be a fantastic year for Broncos fans if management spends some cash on free agents to fill in the many gaps in the roster.
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2012 should be a fantastic year for Broncos fans if management spends some cash on free agents to fill in the many gaps in the roster.
Plus they need to have a very good draft.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:50 AM   #7
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:00 AM   #8
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2012 should be a fantastic year for Broncos fans if management spends some cash on free agents to fill in the many gaps in the roster.
When FA opened last year, the Broncos had literally ONE defensive tackle on their roster. One. It was their biggest position of need/weakness then and for the prior 10 years or so. And the 2011 DT free agency class was the best in NFL history. So what did they do? They sat on their hands while they all signed with other teams......none for more than $5 mil a year. Pennies, essentially. But, hey, we're $25 mil under the cap!

I'm not sure why we think 2012 will be any different.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:02 AM   #9
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2012 should be a fantastic year for Broncos fans if management spends some cash on free agents to fill in the many gaps in the roster.
Anyone in particular you want to to kick the tires on? I'm okay if they don't spent a lot of money in FA. Been there, done that, with little return.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:05 AM   #10
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Anyone in particular you want to to kick the tires on? I'm okay if they don't spent a lot of money in FA. Been there, done that, with little return.

The question is if we don't spend our money on FA's, where do we spend it? The CBA pretty much dictates what we'll spend on rookie contracts, so do we spend to the cap limit and break the bank on a couple of guys in the FA pool? The other option is to do the NE Patriot thing and pick up a lot of mid-level guys that we can plug in and make great in our system. Both options are risky but talent still wins games in this league, so I think a big ticket DT and a big ticket CB work for me.
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The question is if we don't spend our money on FA's, where do we spend it? The CBA pretty much dictates what we'll spend on rookie contracts, so do we spend to the cap limit and break the bank on a couple of guys in the FA pool? The other option is to do the NE Patriot thing and pick up a lot of mid-level guys that we can plug in and make great in our system. Both options are risky but talent still wins games in this league, so I think a big ticket DT and a big ticket CB work for me.
You're forgetting one option: what we did this year. Not spend and remain waaaaay under the cap.
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Well, we assume spend money in FA on good players, not players who are available only because they are not wanted by anybody, which happened constantly under Shanahan.
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The question is if we don't spend our money on FA's, where do we spend it? The CBA pretty much dictates what we'll spend on rookie contracts, so do we spend to the cap limit and break the bank on a couple of guys in the FA pool? The other option is to do the NE Patriot thing and pick up a lot of mid-level guys that we can plug in and make great in our system. Both options are risky but talent still wins games in this league, so I think a big ticket DT and a big ticket CB work for me.
Thought spending to the floor of the cap didn't begin till 2013. I'd be okay if the team looked at a lot of mid level guys and maybe one or two top tier guys if they aren't franchised.

I'd love to see the OG Carl Nicks from NO here to replace Beadles. NO will probably put the Franchise Tag on him though. Second choice would be the Grubbs kid from the Ravens.
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Thought spending to the floor of the cap didn't begin till 2013.
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Thought spending to the floor of the cap didn't begin till 2013. I'd be okay if the team looked at a lot of mid level guys and maybe one or two top tier guys if they aren't franchised.

I'd love to see the OG Carl Nicks from NO here to replace Beadles. NO will probably put the Franchise Tag on him though. Second choice would be the Grubbs kid from the Ravens.
Its a good idea to get another experienced and proven offensive lineman. Let Beadles be the back-up G/T.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:16 AM   #16
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Tebow's earned another year. A true offseason and OTA's as the number one guy. Next season should be his make or break season.

IMO he's shown enough this year to get a shot.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:23 AM   #17
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When FA opened last year, the Broncos had literally ONE defensive tackle on their roster. One. It was their biggest position of need/weakness then and for the prior 10 years or so. And the 2011 DT free agency class was the best in NFL history. So what did they do? They sat on their hands while they all signed with other teams......none for more than $5 mil a year. Pennies, essentially. But, hey, we're $25 mil under the cap!

I'm not sure why we think 2012 will be any different.
I'm hoping that the Broncos were slow rolling it b/c they wanted to see what they had at the beginning of a three year rebuild. Sometimes you have to take a little time to make the big acquisitions. I don't think anyone inside of Dove Valley expected a playoff run in year one. They probably figured that it would be year three before they were really competing and thus decided to wait on big name additions. Pretty smart, IMO.

But, it will be interesting to see how they work it this offseason. I think they are a few pieces away from being a very stable team. Get a Safety, DT, and CB in Free Agency, draft a RB, MLB, and another couple corners and this team could be going places!

If Bowlen doesn't open up the bank more this year then I will be worried.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:50 AM   #18
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A home playoff game goes a long way to realizing the extra money playoffs bring in. Hopefully that will open eyes that we are not to far away from hosting playoff games for the next few years.

If that happens we will spend a bit more money this year.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:02 AM   #19
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2012 should be a fantastic year for Broncos fans if management spends some cash on free agents to fill in the many gaps in the roster.
I guess you can argue that the Broncos had a new front office and coaching staff and wanted to see what they had on the current roster in 2011. That is why they were not very active in the free agent market.

All I kept hearing was building thru the draft.. well year one brought several starters.

Maybe the Broncos spend cash on free agents.. I can see them signing a free agent running back and maybe a cornerback.
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A home playoff game goes a long way to realizing the extra money playoffs bring in. Hopefully that will open eyes that we are not to far away from hosting playoff games for the next few years.

If that happens we will spend a bit more money this year.
Don't hold your breath.

$25 mil went unspent this year. A few extra bucks in Pat's wallet won't change anything IMO.
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I think we'll draft offensive skill positions like WR & TE in the draft. we'll address defense through FA. I don't see any FA WRs or TEs wanting to come to denver.
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When FA opened last year, the Broncos had literally ONE defensive tackle on their roster. One. It was their biggest position of need/weakness then and for the prior 10 years or so. And the 2011 DT free agency class was the best in NFL history. So what did they do? They sat on their hands while they all signed with other teams......none for more than $5 mil a year. Pennies, essentially. But, hey, we're $25 mil under the cap!

I'm not sure why we think 2012 will be any different.
We went out and got two fairly big name DT's while addressing other positions of need in the draft. We were just as weak at safety and at linebacker and we hit pretty well on both of those in the draft. Bunkley has been the best run stuffing DT we've had for quite some time and it Ty Warren didn't have a freak injury he'd be tearing it up. Look at how bad the Pat's front 4 has been without him and Seymour, Wilfork is basically all-world talent and they've been terrible up front.
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We went out and got two fairly big name DT's while addressing other positions of need in the draft. We were just as weak at safety and at linebacker and we hit pretty well on both of those in the draft. Bunkley has been the best run stuffing DT we've had for quite some time and it Ty Warren didn't have a freak injury he'd be tearing it up. Look at how bad the Pat's front 4 has been without him and Seymour, Wilfork is basically all-world talent and they've been terrible up front.
Soooo much inaccuracy in this post, I don't know where to begin.
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Don't hold your breath.

$25 mil went unspent this year. A few extra bucks in Pat's wallet won't change anything IMO.
I agree to a point but I dont think anyone imagined we would be on the brink of the playoffs. With that in mind it makes sense to go cheap and build through the draft. If the realization is "Hey we can make a run next year too if we fix X, Y, Z. that opens the checkbook I think.
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I agree to a point but I dont think anyone imagined we would be on the brink of the playoffs. With that in mind it makes sense to go cheap and build through the draft. If the realization is "Hey we can make a run next year too if we fix X, Y, Z. that opens the checkbook I think.
IMO it's short sighted to view free agency in terms of how it can help your team in that year and not how it can help you in future years, just like the draft. Unless you're signing the guy for one year, he can and will be part of that rebuilding for years to come.
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