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Old 12-29-2011, 05:33 AM   #1
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Orton has chance to prove Broncos wrong



By ADAM water-head TEICHER The Kansas City Star
Posted on Wed, Dec. 28, 2011 11:05 PM


Since joining the Chiefs late last month, Kyle Orton has been asked numerous times about the looming New Year’s Day game against his old employers, the Denver Broncos, and Tim Tebow, the quarterback who took his job.


Orton had been deflecting such questions, saying he was concentrating on the game at hand. But he had to confront it this week, with preparations for Sunday’s meeting in Denver well under way.“The only guys I’m trying to prove something to are my teammates,” Orton said. “I really don’t worry about anything else.“You’ve got to worry about yourself. There’s so much you’ve got to play for every week. There’s still plenty to play for just for your 53 (players). That’s the approach you’ve got to take.


“I value every chance I get to get on the field. You only get 16 chances a year to show what you’ve got.”In Denver, the 8-7 Broncos are similarly trying to downplay the Orton vs. Tebow angle. The Broncos would win the AFC West championship and make the playoffs for the first time since the 2005 season if they can beat the Chiefs.“I think that it’s a little bit more for you than for us,” Tebow said when asked about playing against Orton. “I think it’s the Denver Broncos and the Kansas City Chiefs. That’s a great rivalry, and it’ll be a great game. Excited we get to play at home in front of our fans. I think that as a player, as a quarterback, as someone who has dreamed of that his whole life, it’ll be exciting to have one game, one last game, one last opportunity to make the playoffs.


”Even so, the irony of the situation is too rich to ignore. The Broncos, after starting the season 1-4, benched Orton in favor of Tebow, who has gone 7-3 as the starter and led Denver to the top of the AFC West.The Broncos eventually released Orton, but not until the Chiefs had the need for a starting quarterback after losing the injured Matt Cassel. The Chiefs claimed Orton off waivers to help them make aplayoff push, but they were eliminated from contention with last week’s overtime loss to the Raiders.That doesn’t change the fact Orton could help knock the Broncos from the playoffs. Oakland would win the division championship and a playoff berth by beating San Diego on Sunday if the Broncos also lose to the Chiefs.


The Broncos might have avoided such an awkward situation by either releasing Orton before Cassel’s season-ending injury or holding on to him. But by releasing him in late November, they almost guaranteed themselves they would see Orton play for the opponent in the New Year’s Day game.“Any time you put anybody out there, expose anybody on the wire, you take that risk,” Denver coach John Fox said. “At the end of the day, we made a decision to go with Tim. Kyle had done nothing but handle himself like a true pro through some tough circumstances. I think it has worked out best for both parties, and I wish nothing but the greatest things for Kyle Orton, except this Sunday.


”While Orton indicated he was treating Sunday’s game like just another one, Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel wasn’t buying it. He said he talked to Orton on Wednesday in an effort to calm him down.“Every player that I know wants to play (well) against (his) old team,” Crennel said. “He would like to play (well), and I’m sure he would like to win the game. That’s what I told him this morning: ‘Your job is to help your team win. It’s not Kyle versus the Broncos. It’s the Chiefs versus the Broncos.’“Guys have to be reminded of that, any player. I would have done the same for any player, whether it was a defensive lineman, a running back, anybody playing against their old team. Over my years, that’s what I’ve seen, guys getting up and getting hyped for games against their old team.”Orton, in the last year of his contract, could well be playing his last game for the Chiefs.


Crennel indicated recently he would welcome Orton’s return next season, but as the interim coach, he may not have a say in the matter.If the Chiefs re-sign Orton, they would in effect be admitting they made a mistake in acquiring Cassel, something that appears unlikely. Their stance would have to change radically if they’re to bring Orton back for another year.He might find an attractive job market waiting for him as an unrestricted free agent. The Broncos were close to trading Orton to Miami before last season began.“I haven’t allowed myself to even think about it,” Orton said. “With everything that’s been going on since I’ve been here, I’ve had enough to keep my mind off of it. I’m going to play this game and let the offseason be the offseason. All that stuff is for later. I’m just looking at Sunday’s game and trying to get a win.”





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Old 12-29-2011, 05:42 AM   #2
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no, he doesnt.
how many times has he converted in the red zone for the chiefs? answer: not many
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:46 AM   #3
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He had 3 years to prove everyone wrong here. Just how many chances does he need?
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:45 AM   #4
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He had 3 years to prove everyone wrong here. Just how many chances does he need?
ya really, what was his career record in Denver? And nobody give me we had a crappy team, because Tebow took that same crappy 1-4 team and now we have a legit shot at hosting a first round playoff game.

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7 wins are better than 1 Kyle, I think you've already been proven wrong
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:55 AM   #6
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Kyle Orton has been the roadblock to the playoffs all year for the Broncos. He delivered a 1-4 record that Tebow has had to claw his way out of.

It has been a couple of years since Orton had a good game in Denver leading his team to an important victory. I wouldn't be surprised if the only time he has managed to do that is while he is with another team. Dude just wasn't motivated to win here for whatever reason.
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Vic and Gary are ripping Orton on the radio right now for skipping out on yesterday's media day. he apparently met with the KC media, but refused to meet with the Denver media.

he's ortoning.
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Vic and Gary are ripping Orton on the radio right now for skipping out on yesterday's media day. he apparently met with the KC media, but refused to meet with the Denver media.

he's ortoning.
Already in the fetal position, eh?

Thats encouraging for a Broncos fan.
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He had 3 years to prove everyone wrong here. Just how many chances does he need?
Exactly. He had 13 chances last year and 5 this year. He failed 13 times.
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Exactly. He had 13 chances last year and 5 this year. He failed 13 times.
Chicago threw him into the Cutler trade as an afterthought.
Denver cut him.

Orton thinks he's a starter in this league. the evidence suggests otherwise. Orton needs to accept that he's nothing more than a veteran backup insurance policy at this point. show up. keep a spot warm on the bench. maybe get some playing time if the starter goes out with a concussion. that's about it.
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You guys should honestly be terrified.

The Chiefs had 93 yards passing last time out and you only won by 7.

We know Orton is good at racking up the passing yards. You'll need 21 to beat KC.
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You guys should honestly be terrified.

The Chiefs had 93 yards passing last time out and you only won by 7.

We know Orton is good at racking up the passing yards. You'll need 21 to beat KC.
i'm not worried about Orton beating us.

i am really worried about Fox/McCoy/injuries/rookie safeties losing the game for us.

KC can't win it. however, Denver can lose it.
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You guys should honestly be terrified.

The Chiefs had 93 yards passing last time out and you only won by 7.

We know Orton is good at racking up the passing yards. You'll need 21 to beat KC.
The beauty is that Orton may throw for 300 but he'll giftwrap 2-3 INT's and maybe a fumble. Throwing for yards doesn't win games, throwing for TD's does. How many does Orton have again?
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Chicago threw him into the Cutler trade as an afterthought.
Perhaps they should've thought more about it. He was 21-12 as a starter for them. They could've used a guy like that after Cutler went down. Instead, they've completely tanked.
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You guys should honestly be terrified.

The Chiefs had 93 yards passing last time out and you only won by 7.

We know Orton is good at racking up the passing yards. You'll need 21 to beat KC.
Such a short memory, Robert.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000...wo-for-Johnson

Knocked us out of the playoffs.

For this week, our replacement mojo should be Orton pissing games away in the 4th.
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Perhaps they should've thought more about it. He was 21-12 as a starter for them. They could've used a guy like that after Cutler went down. Instead, they've completely tanked.
umm. yeah. that's why they were desperate to trade for Cutler. they had Orton. Orton was 21-12. yet they couldn't get rid of Orton fast enough once Cutler was on the trading block.

Orton looks ok in a pass happy offense where he can rack up stats in garbage time. and he throws a pretty spiral. but he's not a leader. McD knew that. Fox knew that. and he's not a clutch player. he would not have saved Chicago's playoff hopes because he's not a guy to EVER put a team on his shoulders and will them to victory.
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umm. yeah. that's why they were desperate to trade for Cutler. they had Orton. Orton was 21-12. yet they couldn't get rid of Orton fast enough once Cutler was on the trading block.
Ummmm, ok. Nothing at all to do with my post, but ok.

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Orton looks ok in a pass happy offense where he can rack up stats in garbage time. and he throws a pretty spiral. but he's not a leader. McD knew that. Fox knew that. and he's not a clutch player. he would not have saved Chicago's playoff hopes because he's not a guy to EVER put a team on his shoulders and will them to victory.
Couldn't disagree more with that first part. He would've saved their playoff hopes. Why? Because they didn't need a guy to put the team on his shoulders and will them to victory. All they needed was a game manager. Their QB position seems to be going out of their way to throw games post-Cutler.
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You guys should honestly be terrified.

The Chiefs had 93 yards passing last time out and you only won by 7.

We know Orton is good at racking up the passing yards. You'll need 21 to beat KC.
You really think we're only going to pass 8 times?

Its going to be a much diff game.

However, this game scares me and my gut feeling suggests we aren't going to win it. Our defense has gone to ****.
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Ummmm, ok. Nothing at all to do with my post, but ok.
you said they could have used a guy like him. i answered. they had a guy EXACTLY like him and couldn't get rid of him fast enough.

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Couldn't disagree more with that first part. He would've saved their playoff hopes. Why? Because they didn't need a guy to put the team on his shoulders and will them to victory. All they needed was a game manager. Their QB position seems to be going out of their way to throw games post-Cutler.
you mean like he kept the KC playoff hopes alive by leading his team to a loss against Oakland? all Orton needed to do was actually score some points. he got his 300 yards passing, but his Chefs could only manage 13 points. so if your definition of game manager is to manage a game into the loss column, then Orton's your guy.
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You guys should honestly be terrified.

The Chiefs had 93 yards passing last time out and you only won by 7.

We know Orton is good at racking up the passing yards. You'll need 21 to beat KC.
Yeah, that 13 points you guys hung on that formidable Oakland Raiders D has everyone crapping their pants.
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However, this game scares me and my gut feeling suggests we aren't going to win it. Our defense has gone to ****.
Yeah, it really has been bad since the Minny game.

Someone needs to step up on that defense and start making plays.

This could be the game to do it though. The Broncos' D knows Orton. It will be interesting to see how that all pans out.
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you said they could have used a guy like him. i answered. they had a guy EXACTLY like him and couldn't get rid of him fast enough.
A guy like him NOW, not then. NOW. Instead of Hanie these past 5 or 6 weeks. You really think, knowing then what they know now, that they wouldn't have preferred to keep a guy like Orton over Hanie?



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you mean like he kept the KC playoff hopes alive by leading his team to a loss against Oakland? all Orton needed to do was actually score some points. he got his 300 yards passing, but his Chefs could only manage 13 points. so if your definition of game manager is to manage a game into the loss column, then Orton's your guy.
You're right. It's all Orton's fault they lost by 3 when their special teams missed 2 field goals after he drove them into scoring territory twice. Once right as time expired. Tebow gets credit for us making miracle 50+ yarders to win games, but Orton gets blamed when more makeable ones get blocked. Interesting
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Yeah, it really has been bad since the Minny game.

Someone needs to step up on that defense and start making plays.

This could be the game to do it though. The Broncos' D knows Orton. It will be interesting to see how that all pans out.
i'm scared to death Fox/McCoy will trot out the same stupid gameplan and play-calling we've seen for the past few weeks. Tebow is running less and that makes this offensive scheme less effective. he's got to be free to run if the opportunity is there. it seems like there is a concerted effort by Tebow to not run on passing plays, but to stay in the pocket and try to make a play with his arm. i think that negates some of our advantage with Tebow in the game. but if the play-calling is as bad as it has been, we're screwed. run/run/run/punt is not a formula to win playoff games, and this will be a playoff (or play-in) game.
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You're right. It's all Orton's fault they lost by 3 when their special teams missed 2 field goals after he drove them into scoring territory twice. Once right as time expired. Tebow gets credit for us making miracle 50+ yarders to win games, but Orton gets blamed when more makeable ones get blocked. Interesting
So who threw an INT at the OAK 13 yard line and another on on the OAK 35 yard line. Yes Orton has alot to do with the fact that the game was tied. Did you even watch the game
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