Biden says Taliban not our enemy?

[cutthemdown]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...isnt-us-enemy/

The White House on Monday defended Vice President Joe Biden for saying that the Taliban isn't an enemy of the United States despite the years spent fighting the militant Islamic group that gave a home to Al Qaeda and its leader Usama bin Laden while he plotted the Sept. 11 terror attacks.




Um....really? They are allies of Al Queda, doesn't that make them our enemy? What a joke Biden is, and the White House trying to make this sound ok is also a joke. As far as I am concerned that Mullah Omar should be high on our list of targets.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...isnt-us-enemy/

The White House on Monday defended Vice President Joe Biden for saying that the Taliban isn't an enemy of the United States despite the years spent fighting the militant Islamic group that gave a home to Al Qaeda and its leader Usama bin Laden while he plotted the Sept. 11 terror attacks.




Um....really? They are allies of Al Queda, doesn't that make them our enemy? What a joke Biden is, and the White House trying to make this sound ok is also a joke. As far as I am concerned that Mullah Omar should be high on our list of targets.

You are missing the point. They are trying to pull fractions away for the Taliban like they did in Iraq with the Sunni militias. This part of the process to bring segments to the peace table.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by elsid13

You are missing the point. They are trying to pull fractions away for the Taliban like they did in Iraq with the Sunni militias. This part of the process to bring segments to the peace table.

Any peace that includes Mullah Omar living would be a joke sorry. I get how Obama and Biden want to try and make nicey but sorry your comparison falls short. Taliban is a govt, led by Mullah Omar, who helped attack us, and is an ally of Al Queda. Sunni and Shia militias had nothing to do with attacking us on 9-11.

[barryr]

Looks like they let out Biden from his corner building who just can't help himself and continues his long line of stupid comments. So reassuring that bozo has had such a big role in this country for years. But he is a great example for this country though considering if he can make it big, anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, can.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Any peace that includes Mullah Omar living would be a joke sorry. I get how Obama and Biden want to try and make nicey but sorry your comparison falls short. Taliban is a govt, led by Mullah Omar, who helped attack us, and is an ally of Al Queda. Sunni and Shia militias had nothing to do with attacking us on 9-11.

You seriously, do not understand how ME rule is implemented and until you do, you need to turn on the mute button.

The U.S. has been in negotiations with them (the Taliban) for a long time now and they may go nowhere or...
Whatever happens, we can NEVER change who they are.

What is he suppose to say while talks are ongoing?
If you think I'm wrong, tell me how?

I just spent 2010 in living and working Saudi Arabia with time in Jordan.
What's your experience with the ME religious populations and their radicals?

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

You seriously, do not understand how ME rule is implemented and until you do, you need to turn on the mute button.

The U.S. has been in negotiations with them (the Taliban) for a long time now and they may go nowhere or...
Whatever happens, we can NEVER change who they are.

What is he suppose to say while talks are ongoing?
If you think I'm wrong, tell me how?

I just spent 2010 in living and working Saudi Arabia with time in Jordan.
What's your experience with the ME religious populations and their radicals?

Fox News?

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...isnt-us-enemy/

The White House on Monday defended Vice President Joe Biden for saying that the Taliban isn't an enemy of the United States despite the years spent fighting the militant Islamic group that gave a home to Al Qaeda and its leader Usama bin Laden while he plotted the Sept. 11 terror attacks.




Um....really? They are allies of Al Queda, doesn't that make them our enemy? What a joke Biden is, and the White House trying to make this sound ok is also a joke. As far as I am concerned that Mullah Omar should be high on our list of targets.

Don't you get it...

You're the enemy now.


It's not a country, it's not a terrorist group, it's now the individual that is the threat.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...isnt-us-enemy/

The White House on Monday defended Vice President Joe Biden for saying that the Taliban isn't an enemy of the United States despite the years spent fighting the militant Islamic group that gave a home to Al Qaeda and its leader Usama bin Laden while he plotted the Sept. 11 terror attacks.




Um....really? They are allies of Al Queda, doesn't that make them our enemy? What a joke Biden is, and the White House trying to make this sound ok is also a joke. As far as I am concerned that Mullah Omar should be high on our list of targets.

I think sadly for this administration, those who have jobs are the enemy, those who believe in the limiting powers of the Constitution, and any member of the tea party.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

You seriously, do not understand how ME rule is implemented and until you do, you need to turn on the mute button.

The U.S. has been in negotiations with them (the Taliban) for a long time now and they may go nowhere or...
Whatever happens, we can NEVER change who they are.

What is he suppose to say while talks are ongoing?
If you think I'm wrong, tell me how?

I just spent 2010 in living and working Saudi Arabia with time in Jordan.
What's your experience with the ME religious populations and their radicals?

Negotiate fine, but they are indeed our enemy. Kissing their ass and pretending they aren't won't get us anywhere.,

The sooner Obama out of office the better off we will be.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Negotiate fine, but they are indeed our enemy. Kissing their ass and pretending they aren't won't get us anywhere.,

The sooner Obama out of office the better off we will be.

I wish the last sentence were true -- it is my opinion that if we get somone in office that does all of the same things as Obama to destroy the republic and expand federal powers (but perhaps at a slightly slower speed) those who dispise American ideals (from within and without) can point to the "conservative" president and claim "see -- Newt's capitalist ideas don't work -- we need a lareger does of statism to save us."

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Any peace that includes Mullah Omar living would be a joke sorry. I get how Obama and Biden want to try and make nicey but sorry your comparison falls short. Taliban is a govt, led by Mullah Omar, who helped attack us, and is an ally of Al Queda. Sunni and Shia militias had nothing to do with attacking us on 9-11.

The Taliban is not a government and it is not unified. It is made up a number of tribes and groups that because part of the movement after civil war because it brought a sense of justices and order. The goal is to split away those tribes and groups from Omar and hard core jihadist (sp?) that support the Al-Quada movement. It is classic counter insurgence operation.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Negotiate fine, but they are indeed our enemy. Kissing their ass and pretending they aren't won't get us anywhere.

[ghwk]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...isnt-us-enemy/

The White House on Monday defended Vice President Joe Biden for saying that the Taliban isn't an enemy of the United States despite the years spent fighting the militant Islamic group that gave a home to Al Qaeda and its leader Usama bin Laden while he plotted the Sept. 11 terror attacks.


Um....really? They are allies of Al Queda, doesn't that make them our enemy? What a joke Biden is, and the White House trying to make this sound ok is also a joke. As far as I am concerned that Mullah Omar should be high on our list of targets.

Sometimes your posts are just so ignorant it makes my head hurt.

[ghwk]

Originally Posted by barryr

Looks like they let out Biden from his corner building who just can't help himself and continues his long line of stupid comments. So reassuring that bozo has had such a big role in this country for years. But he is a great example for this country though considering if he can make it big, anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, can.

All YOUR posts are so ignorant it makes my head hurt all the time.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by ghwk

Sometimes your posts are just so ignorant it makes my head hurt.

And your posts are vacuous and communicate nothing but insult. Back it up by outlining why he is wrong. Is Biden unclear about who the enemy is?

[ghwk]

Originally Posted by Bob

And your posts are vacuous and communicate nothing but insult. Back it up by outlining why he is wrong. Is Biden unclear about who the enemy is?

Admittedly true but it didn't always used to be that way. After a while, as stated, my head just hurt too much and it wasn't worth it any more. Perfectly good posts by Rohirrim, W*GS, and others are going to waste here so my adding to that would, well, just make head start hurting.

Where have you been, on a 6 month ban?

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by ghwk

Sometimes your posts are just so ignorant it makes my head hurt.

That is the truth hitting your dead brain cells.

[cutthemdown]

The whole notion you would need to negotiate an end to killing with a group that isn't your enemy is also a joke.

They should come right out and say no peace unless we get Mullah Omar, maybe then we can settle with different groups.

Obama just trying to lay the ground work to put our tails between our legs and run home because his surge was a total failure. He wants to make it look like how it worked in Iraq but the situation not the same at all.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by elsid13

The Taliban is not a government and it is not unified. It is made up a number of tribes and groups that because part of the movement after civil war because it brought a sense of justices and order. The goal is to split away those tribes and groups from Omar and hard core jihadist (sp?) that support the Al-Quada movement. It is classic counter insurgence operation.

Wow so the Taliban brings justice and order. What a joke. I don't care if they are a bunch of tribes, America a bunch of political parties as well but when we go to war we do it as a country.

Until those factions willing to give us Mullah Omar there can be no peace.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by ghwk

All YOUR posts are so ignorant it makes my head hurt all the time.

You being dead from the neck up might have something to do with that

[barryr]

Originally Posted by elsid13

The Taliban is not a government and it is not unified. It is made up a number of tribes and groups that because part of the movement after civil war because it brought a sense of justices and order. The goal is to split away those tribes and groups from Omar and hard core jihadist (sp?) that support the Al-Quada movement. It is classic counter insurgence operation.

You are clearly out of your mind. The Taliban also killed and tortured people in public for whatever they felt like and girls were not allowed to attend schools, among other such wonderful things. That is justice and order to you, but most sane people would not see it that way, especially those being victimized.

Besides, shows what BS people like you are full of. Just having people show their ID in this country so you can vote gets people like you all up in arms and irate, stupidly claiming that violates some kind of right even though many business make you show ID when buying anything. But the Taliban killing and torturing people is respectable and tolerable. Wow.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

You seriously, do not understand how ME rule is implemented and until you do, you need to turn on the mute button.

The U.S. has been in negotiations with them (the Taliban) for a long time now and they may go nowhere or...
Whatever happens, we can NEVER change who they are.

What is he suppose to say while talks are ongoing?
If you think I'm wrong, tell me how?

I just spent 2010 in living and working Saudi Arabia with time in Jordan.
What's your experience with the ME religious populations and their radicals?

I agree with this for the most part. History tells us that we will probably never truly win in Afganistan. And unless as a country we convert to Islam, we will never see eye to eye. And we certainly will never change them. So maybe the best option is to talk to them They won't be the first bad guys we have made friends with. By no means should we be best friends or friends at all. But we need peace.
That being said, they are real bad guys and are absolutely our enemy. What was that saying from The Godfather?

[barryr]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

I agree with this for the most part. History tells us that we will probably never truly win in Afganistan. And unless as a country we convert to Islam, we will never see eye to eye. And we certainly will never change them. So maybe the best option is to talk to them They won't be the first bad guys we have made friends with. By no means should we be best friends or friends at all. But we need peace.
That being said, they are real bad guys and are absolutely our enemy. What was that saying from The Godfather?

But isn't it odd that those who say it is ok to be buddies because of the Taliban had much different views when the U.S. has done or tried the same tactics in other countries, especially in the ME? Hmm, seems like some more double standards going on to me.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by barryr

But isn't it odd that those who say it is ok to be buddies because of the Taliban had much different views when the U.S. has done or tried the same tactics in other countries, especially in the ME? Hmm, seems like some more double standards going on to me.

Yes but at some point we need to choose one route or the other. We can't change our path depending on who is on charge. It's ok to agree with the libs and at the same time calling them out on their hypocrisy. Otherwise, we re no better than them and we as a country will never be able to move past the groundhog day our politicians have tricked us into living.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

Yes but at some point we need to choose one route or the other. We can't change our path depending on who is on charge. It's ok to agree with the libs and at the same time calling them out on their hypocrisy. Otherwise, we re no better than them and we as a country will never be able to move past the groundhog day our politicians have tricked us into living.

True, but as long as the liberals are in charge of most of the media, universities, courtrooms, and politics, there will always be this problem since they are not interested in compromise and doing what is best for all. It is always what is best for their cause no matter how it hurts others.