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Old 12-05-2011, 12:25 AM   #1
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Tied with Oakland at 7-5. We have a better division record by 1 game and only 1 division game left. Oakland has 2 division games left so if we ended up with the same record, and the same amount of division wins. We have 1 more conference win and still have 3 conference games left while Oakland only has 2.

So, doesn't that mean we DO control our own destiny? If we win out and Oakland wins out, we would go to the playoffs. Is that correct?
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:28 AM   #2
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If we can beat the Bears next week, and assuming the Pack will keep rolling. If those both happen then I say we do.
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Tied with Oakland at 7-5. We have a better division record by 1 game and only 1 division game left. Oakland has 2 division games left so if we ended up with the same record, and the same amount of division wins. We have 1 more conference win and still have 3 conference games left while Oakland only has 2.

So, doesn't that mean we DO control our own destiny? If we win out and Oakland wins out, we would go to the playoffs. Is that correct?
Yes, but if we both win out, Oakland would likely get a wild card berth.
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Pretty sure we do now ... We are in 1st atm and even if we slip out of the Div. lead we have wins over the Benglas and Jets who we would be in a battle with for the last wild card spot...

But I think we control our own fate and can win the Div.
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If we can beat the Bears next week, and assuming the Pack will keep rolling. If those both happen then I say we do.
Mmmm, I think we do right now. Let's say both teams win every game left, it would go to the 2nd tie breaker. Records the same, division wins the same. The tiebreak then becomes conference games. Being up 1 game already in the conference, and having 3 more to play while Oakland only has 2, we would have the better conference record and win the tiebreaker.
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Mmmm, I think we do right now. Let's say both teams win every game left, it would go to the 2nd tie breaker. Records the same, division wins the same. The tiebreak then becomes conference games. Being up 1 game already in the conference, and having 3 more to play while Oakland only has 2, we would have the better conference record and win the tiebreaker.
Yup ... + tie breakers over Jets , Bengals .
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at some of you stating the Raiders will win out. Just stop. If we win out, we are 11-5 and I don't see how we don't make the playoffs with our tiebreaker against the Jets. We should be good with one more loss.

Come on, Raiders winning out! Puhleeeeeaze.
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Mmmm, I think we do right now. Let's say both teams win every game left, it would go to the 2nd tie breaker. Records the same, division wins the same. The tiebreak then becomes conference games. Being up 1 game already in the conference, and having 3 more to play while Oakland only has 2, we would have the better conference record and win the tiebreaker.
Lets hope we can beat the Pats then.
I can't see the fade beating GB, and could totally see SD playing spoiler for them at the end. If we beat the the Bears Ill be a lot more hopeful for a playoff berth.
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Even more incredible than the fact that the Broncos are in the drivers seat for the division is that they have also positioned themselves as the front runner for the wild card spot that either the Steelers or Ravens don't get.

Where this team has come over a short span of time against some pretty heavy odds is incredible.

This hasn't been an easy run. It has been a massive road trip against mostly playoff contenders and/or division rivals.
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Even more incredible than the fact that the Broncos are in the drivers seat for the division is that they have also positioned themselves as the front runner for the wild card spot that either the Steelers or Ravens don't get.

Where this team has come over a short span of time against some pretty heavy odds is incredible.

This hasn't been an easy run. It has been a massive road trip against mostly playoff contenders and/or division rivals.

http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture

Both those teams will get in
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Both those teams will get in
Yeah, one will win the division and the other will get the wild card.
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I assume he's talking about the spot left over.
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My bad , read it wrong ... I've been up way to long ...
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To atone for your mistake, you must pry open your eyes and read a 100-page thread where "TheReverend" and "MacGruber" slap fight and argue and get back to us with a synoposis with accompanying sociological analysis.
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and wow Kubes Texans are 9-3 amazing
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at some of you stating the Raiders will win out. Just stop. If we win out, we are 11-5 and I don't see how we don't make the playoffs with our tiebreaker against the Jets. We should be good with one more loss.

Come on, Raiders winning out! Puhleeeeeaze.
WIN OUT! lol they will be lucky to win 1 more game. The coaching staff stinks, the team falling apart, Davis gone and left no one to run the team. No way Davis trades a first and 2nd for Palmer.

Raiders going into some dark days until Mark Davis realizes he should sell the team to someone really rich. He simply doesn't have the money.
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Yup ... + tie breakers over Jets , Bengals .
Yup. Now all we need (besides our winning) is for the Titans to a few more and most importantly, their last game to the Texans. They're still in the hunt for that last wildcard spot also. They need some division wins but they do play the Colts and Jagwads coming up. We need them to lose that last division game to Houston.
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Win out. Problem solved, and who will give a fook about Oakland then?


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Win out. Problem solved, and who will give a fook about Oakland then?


Does anyone now?
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This thread exists, does it not?


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Yeah, but they just got blown out by the ****ing Dolphins. So...does anyone really care? Is anyone really worried? The Raiders suck...
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A key game for us is that last game vs. Kansas City. We need to win it to go 4-2 in the division.
The rest of the way for both of us, how I see it:
Denver:
Chicago - W, Forte and Cutler out, yeah, our D should win this for us, 8-5
NE - L, Pats too much for us, 8-6
@Buffalo - A wildcard here, but I think we fight our way to a win barely, 9-6
KC - W, 10-6

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@GB - L, I don't see anyway possible they could win this game, 7-6
Detroit - Could be a tough game for Oakland, but I think they pull off the win, 8-6
@KC - W, 9-7
San Diego - W, 10-6

Head to head tiebreaker: 1-1
Division: both 4-2
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Denver - 8-4
Oakland - 7-5

Denver wins division. That KC game is going to be HUGE and we have to win it.
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at some of you stating the Raiders will win out. Just stop. If we win out, we are 11-5 and I don't see how we don't make the playoffs with our tiebreaker against the Jets. We should be good with one more loss.

Come on, Raiders winning out! Puhleeeeeaze.
Yes, it is highly unlikely. But the initial question was, do we currently control our own destiny? I.E. if we win out, do we get a play-off birth regardless of any other mathematically possible scenario playing out in the NFL. So, to answer that question, you have to consider any scenario, even the highly unlikely ones.
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Tied with Oakland at 7-5. We have a better division record by 1 game and only 1 division game left. Oakland has 2 division games left so if we ended up with the same record, and the same amount of division wins. We have 1 more conference win and still have 3 conference games left while Oakland only has 2.

So, doesn't that mean we DO control our own destiny? If we win out and Oakland wins out, we would go to the playoffs. Is that correct?
We definitely control our own destiny. Win out and we win the division no matter what else happens elsewhere. In fact winning out would probably get us the 3rd or 2nd AFC seed.
Assuming we lose one and Oakland loses one we still own the division. The next two weeks will be our toughest tests, although KC is playing very good defense and is trying to get back in the hunt. The Buffalo game is a possible trap game if we win the next 2. If we go 3-1 I think we are a lock as long as Oakland loses one.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:10 AM   #25
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In fact winning out would probably get us the 3rd or 2nd AFC seed.
Probably not. There are 4 AFC teams with 2 fewer losses than us right now, and all have better conference records. Unless 3 out of 4 of the following lose AT LEAST two more games, we can't get the #2 seed:

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