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Old 11-28-2011, 09:56 AM   #1
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Defense is the reason that all of the Tebow haters on espn (hodge/dilfer and others) are using as the reason of our 5-1 record with the Timmy Badger.

I love how our D is playing and they have been lights out. Von Miller will be my next jersey because the dude is a BEAST.

However, Tebow is playing with the same Defense that Kyle Orton had when we were 1-4. When we got gashed for around 150 yards by Mcfadden. The same D that gave up 20 plus points to Cincy and San diego in game 1.


Tebow's intangibles and leadership has given the Broncos Defense a reason to believe. Part of being QB is motivating, and getting the team to believe in you and play for you. Thats why when Elway won the superbowl, they said "this ones for John". Because everyone wanted to win for John, and I think Tebow has a little of that in him. Tebow has stuck his neck out for the team, now they are laying it on the line for him and the rest of the team. WE HAVE A REAL TEAM NOW.

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Old 11-28-2011, 09:57 AM   #2
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Its not like all of the sudden our Defense is getting injured players back and healthy.

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Defense is the reason that all of the Tebow haters on espn (hodge/dilfer and others) are using as the reason of our 5-1 record with the Timmy Badger.

I love how our D is playing and they have been lights out. Von Miller will be my next jersey because the dude is a BEAST.

However, Tebow is playing with the same Defense that Kyle Orton had when we were 1-4. When we got gashed for around 150 yards by Mcfadden. The same D that gave up 20 plus points to Cincy and San diego in game 1.

Its not like all of the sudden our Defense is getting injured players back and healthy. Why are all the sudden they are playing lights out? What am I missing?

Tebow's intangibles and leadership has given the Broncos Defense a reason to believe. Part of being QB is motivating, and getting the team to believe in you and play for you. Thats why when Elway won the superbowl, they said "this ones for John". Because everyone wanted to win for John, and I think Tebow has a little of that in him.
the team knows that Tebow would stick his neck on the line for anyone on the team, and they are doing the same for him.
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Its not like all of the sudden our Defense is getting injured players back and healthy.

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Meaning when we were 1-4 we were missing dumervill or miller or dawkins, and now they are back and we are 5-1. We have had those guys this whole time. Minus champ in one game, was it miami?
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It's simply the latest in a long line of refusing to give Tebow credit for what he is.

The same people who were blaming the defense for losses while Kyle Orton was the QB are now crediting them for winning games in spite of the QB. It's the most absurd logic I have seen to date.

What an amazing coincidence that the defense just happened to gel right when Tebow got the starting job.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:01 AM   #6
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A lot can be said for the fact that Tebow isn't turning the ball over and Orton was constantly. That's huge. Oh and he actually makes plays in clutch situations while Orton is allergic to clutch situations.
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not too mention finally comfortable under yet another d coordinator
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Meaning when we were 1-4 we were missing dumervill or miller or dawkins, and now they are back and we are 5-1. We have had those guys this whole time. Minus champ in one game, was it miami?
I think you might want to recheck your facts.
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Meaning when we were 1-4 we were missing dumervill or miller or dawkins, and now they are back and we are 5-1. We have had those guys this whole time. Minus champ in one game, was it miami?
Champ missed 3 games and Dumervil was hurt for the first half of the season. I think DJ missed some time too.
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anyone that fails recognize the defense's improvement is probably too far up Tebows ass to notice.

that being said, this team has played better ever since Orton was benched
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Dilfer actually gave tebow a bunch of credit post game and says he loves what he's seeing because he's a huge fan of team football (iknowright)
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Tebow isn't turning it over like the ball is on fire, and it's keeping the defense out of bad situations for the most part.

Biggest difference I've seen in the last 6 games.
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anyone that fails recognize the defense's improvement is probably too far up Tebows ass to notice.

that being said, this team has played better ever since Orton was benched
I just don't understand why so many insist on it being one or the other. The defense has clearly improved since Tebow became our starter, and Tebow has made some incredibly clutch plays, avoided turnovers, and super-charged what was a mediocre run game. This either/or crap is idiotic.
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Orton loses winnable games, Tebow wins winnable games

Defense now has hope

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It's simply the latest in a long line of refusing to give Tebow credit for what he is.

The same people who were blaming the defense for losses while Kyle Orton was the QB are now crediting them for winning games in spite of the QB. It's the most absurd logic I have seen to date.

What an amazing coincidence that the defense just happened to gel right when Tebow got the starting job.
This is what channels can do when they're on 24 hours a day. There's been so much crap thrown at viewers between then and now that they can pretend they never said these things.

There is no accountability in TV sports journalism.
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I just don't understand why so many insist on it being one or the other. .
yeah, I don't get it either. The rotating door for coaches and QB's the last 13 years probably doesn't help.
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I think you might want to recheck your facts.

I may be wrong. Who on D has come back for this 5-1 stretch that was out when we were 1-4?
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Tebow isn't turning it over like the ball is on fire, and it's keeping the defense out of bad situations for the most part.

Biggest difference I've seen in the last 6 games.
Biggest difference i have seen is the passion and the enthusiasm the Defense is finally playing with. They look hungry. Big difference from when Orton was in there.
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Defense is the reason that all of the Tebow haters on espn (hodge/dilfer and others) are using as the reason of our 5-1 record with the Timmy Badger.

I love how our D is playing and they have been lights out. Von Miller will be my next jersey because the dude is a BEAST.

However, Tebow is playing with the same Defense that Kyle Orton had when we were 1-4. When we got gashed for around 150 yards by Mcfadden. The same D that gave up 20 plus points to Cincy and San diego in game 1.

Its not like all of the sudden our Defense is getting injured players back and healthy. We have had almost full health the whole season. Why are all the sudden they are playing lights out? What am I missing?

Tebow's intangibles and leadership has given the Broncos Defense a reason to believe. Part of being QB is motivating, and getting the team to believe in you and play for you. Thats why when Elway won the superbowl, they said "this ones for John". Because everyone wanted to win for John, and I think Tebow has a little of that in him.
Elvis missed a few games early on.

So did Marcus Thomas.

So did DJ Williams.

Miller keeps getting better every week.

Carter has taken over at S and is also getting better every week.

We found Harris at nickle CB.

Offensively, we've cut WAY down on turnovers from the QB position and our TOP is dramatically improved.

And yes, on top that they do seem to play harder for Tim (Champ has specifically mentioned this)
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I may be wrong. Who on D has come back for this 5-1 stretch that was out when we were 1-4?
Doom wasn't fully recovered yet, plus the emergence of Chris Harris has helped. DJ also missed awhile with the elbow injury
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off the top of my head, DJ Willams, Marcus Thomas, Champ Bailey all missed some time
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http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/injury-report.html

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I may be wrong. Who on D has come back for this 5-1 stretch that was out when we were 1-4?
Marcus Thomas has come back. Dumervil has gotten healthy.
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Marcus Thomas has come back. Dumervil has gotten healthy.


Ok,

I was wrong,

So nobody thinks our Defense is visibly playing with more intensity since Tebow has started?
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Ok,

I was wrong,

So nobody thinks our Defense is visibly playing with more intensity since Tebow has started?
They always have, going back to last year

Bunkley and the guys love Teebs
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