CIA Still Sucks... - The Orange Mane

That One Guy · 11-21-2011, 07:28 AM

I'm sure I've mentioned it here but I generally hate the CIA. I think they're all a bunch of arrogant, cocky, a-holes. I just saw this article and wanted to take an opportunity to say the CIA sucks.

In a significant failure for the United States in the Mideast, more than a dozen spies working for the CIA in Iran and Lebanon have been caught and the U.S. government fears they will be or have been executed, according to four current and former U.S. officials with connections to the intelligence community.

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Other current and former officials said the discovery of the two U.S. spy rings occurred separately, but amounted to a setback of significant proportions in efforts to track the activities of the Iranian nuclear program and the intentions of Hezbollah against Israel.

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But others inside the American intelligence community say sloppy "tradecraft" -- the method of covert operations -- by the CIA is also to blame for the disruption of the vital spy networks.

In Beirut, two Hezbollah double agents pretended to go to work for the CIA. Hezbollah then learned of the restaurant where multiple CIA officers were meeting with several agents, according to the four current and former officials briefed on the case. The CIA used the codeword "PIZZA" when discussing where to meet with the agents, according to U.S. officials. Two former officials describe the location as a Beirut Pizza Hut. A current US official denied that CIA officers met their agents at Pizza Hut.

From there, Hezbollah's internal security arm identified at least a dozen informants, and the identities of several CIA case officers.

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"We were lazy and the CIA is now flying blind against Hezbollah," the former official said.

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"If you lose an asset, one source, that's normally a setback in espionage," said Robert Baer, who was considered an expert on Hezbollah.

"But when you lose your entire station, either in Tehran or Beirut, that's a catastrophe, that just shouldn't be. And the only way that ever happens is when you're mishandling sources."

http://gma.yahoo.com/exclusive-cia-s...233819159.html

Rohirrim · 11-21-2011, 07:34 AM

They knew that two of the 9/11 hijackers were in San Diego taking flying lessons and didn't inform the FBI, allowing the worst attack on our soil in history. Worthless organization and a waste of taxpayer money.

mhgaffney · 11-21-2011, 11:23 AM

Ro is edging closer -- taking baby steps -- toward the unthinkable truth that the CIA -- was complicit in 9/11.

The unthinkable happens to be the reality.

W*GS · 11-21-2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Ro is edging closer -- taking baby steps -- toward the unthinkable truth that the CIA -- was complicit in 9/11.

The unthinkable happens to be the reality.

The CIA protecting its turf and stovepiping of intelligence info is hardly news or earth-shaking. The 9/11 Commission Report noted both.

That's a long ways from complicity.

PS - Ever see "Fiddler on the Roof", or do you refuse to see it out of principle?

mhgaffney · 11-21-2011, 12:40 PM

The chairs of the 9/11 Commission charged that the CIA stonewalled its investigation.

But W*gs still hasn't found out. Probably because he doesn't want to know.

WHY doesn't he want to know?

Good question. We've seen the same phenom with Chomsky and with many Zionists. The best guess at this point is that they don;t want to know because they either know or suspect Israeli involvement in the attacks.

I'm not saying Israel did it. But there is a lot of evidence that points to Israeli involvement.

mhgaffney · 11-21-2011, 12:42 PM

Zionists find this too horrible to contemplate --

W*GS · 11-21-2011, 12:45 PM

Thanks for biting gaffe - I knew you could and would.

cutthemdown · 11-21-2011, 01:24 PM

Wow i just read this same story and was going to post it. This is a major failure. Who is stupid enough to meet with multiple assets at the same place? mixing them by assuring if one is watched they are all going to get caught. Who the hell in charge of this operation. This is ridiculous.

Tombstone RJ · 11-21-2011, 02:02 PM

CIA is a joke. It needs a major overhall or restructuring.

11-21-2011, 07:28 AM	#1
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	CIA Still Sucks... I'm sure I've mentioned it here but I generally hate the CIA. I think they're all a bunch of arrogant, cocky, a-holes. I just saw this article and wanted to take an opportunity to say the CIA sucks. In a significant failure for the United States in the Mideast, more than a dozen spies working for the CIA in Iran and Lebanon have been caught and the U.S. government fears they will be or have been executed, according to four current and former U.S. officials with connections to the intelligence community. ... Other current and former officials said the discovery of the two U.S. spy rings occurred separately, but amounted to a setback of significant proportions in efforts to track the activities of the Iranian nuclear program and the intentions of Hezbollah against Israel. .. But others inside the American intelligence community say sloppy "tradecraft" -- the method of covert operations -- by the CIA is also to blame for the disruption of the vital spy networks. In Beirut, two Hezbollah double agents pretended to go to work for the CIA. Hezbollah then learned of the restaurant where multiple CIA officers were meeting with several agents, according to the four current and former officials briefed on the case. The CIA used the codeword "PIZZA" when discussing where to meet with the agents, according to U.S. officials. Two former officials describe the location as a Beirut Pizza Hut. A current US official denied that CIA officers met their agents at Pizza Hut. From there, Hezbollah's internal security arm identified at least a dozen informants, and the identities of several CIA case officers. ... "We were lazy and the CIA is now flying blind against Hezbollah," the former official said. ... "If you lose an asset, one source, that's normally a setback in espionage," said Robert Baer, who was considered an expert on Hezbollah. "But when you lose your entire station, either in Tehran or Beirut, that's a catastrophe, that just shouldn't be. And the only way that ever happens is when you're mishandling sources." http://gma.yahoo.com/exclusive-cia-s...233819159.html

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11-21-2011, 07:34 AM	#2
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	They knew that two of the 9/11 hijackers were in San Diego taking flying lessons and didn't inform the FBI, allowing the worst attack on our soil in history. Worthless organization and a waste of taxpayer money.

11-21-2011, 11:23 AM	#3
mhgaffney Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,771	Ro is edging closer -- taking baby steps -- toward the unthinkable truth that the CIA -- was complicit in 9/11. The unthinkable happens to be the reality.

11-21-2011, 12:40 PM	#5
mhgaffney Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,771	The chairs of the 9/11 Commission charged that the CIA stonewalled its investigation. But W*gs still hasn't found out. Probably because he doesn't want to know. WHY doesn't he want to know? Good question. We've seen the same phenom with Chomsky and with many Zionists. The best guess at this point is that they don;t want to know because they either know or suspect Israeli involvement in the attacks. I'm not saying Israel did it. But there is a lot of evidence that points to Israeli involvement.

11-21-2011, 12:42 PM	#6
mhgaffney Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,771	Zionists find this too horrible to contemplate --

11-21-2011, 12:45 PM	#7
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,511	Thanks for biting gaffe - I knew you could and would.

11-21-2011, 01:24 PM	#8
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,486	Wow i just read this same story and was going to post it. This is a major failure. Who is stupid enough to meet with multiple assets at the same place? mixing them by assuring if one is watched they are all going to get caught. Who the hell in charge of this operation. This is ridiculous.

11-21-2011, 02:02 PM	#9
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,297 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	CIA is a joke. It needs a major overhall or restructuring.