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Old 11-15-2011, 08:30 AM   #1
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Tiki makes some valid points about the future of QBs in the NFL. If the Broncos could win with Tebow completing two passes, what’s wrong with that?
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:32 AM   #2
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****. It's better for our team if Tiki says Tebow sucks. He has Bob like negative karma.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:33 AM   #3
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Maybe Travis Henry has something left in the tank .... beyond bong juice in the pee-pee
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:35 AM   #4
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Cris Carter just pounded Tebow and the Broncos this morning. Says you can't put an Armani suit on a hobo, which might explain a little about why Cris never got a ring--wide receivers disease.
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Cris Carter just pounded Tebow and the Broncos this morning. Says you can't put an Armani suit on a hobo, which might explain a little about why Cris never got a ring--wide receivers disease.
wtf does that mean?
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:39 AM   #6
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It means he's a bitter old **** that is praying tebow will fail. Such a clown...amazing receiver, horrible analyst.
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If we keep running the Ball we'd better start a Roll-O-Dex for every available Running Back out there-

I really love the new identity of the Broncos-
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I don't agree with Tiki, because there is only one Tebow. If there were more QBs doing it like Tebow, then I could see his point in that there could be a shift. And this Tebow project would have to be deemed a success before another team would try a QB like him. I don't think any team is going to go this route, and I'd say that the Broncos didn't plan to do it, and they might not be doing it next year.

I don't agree with the Cam Newton and Michael Vick comparison. Yes, they all run, but I'd still say that they are three different QBs. And as much as they run, Newton and Vick are still expected to be passers. At this point Tebow isn't expected to do that at all.

This is a pass happy league, and a QB who can light it up from the pocket will always be valued over a QB who can run. And if that running QB struggles passing the ball, he won't be around for long.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:56 AM   #9
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Cris Carter just pounded Tebow and the Broncos this morning. Says you can't put an Armani suit on a hobo, which might explain a little about why Cris never got a ring--wide receivers disease.
He has been a complete Dbag when it comes to Tebow. All he does is complain about him. He must have been rubbing against Hoge for too long in the espn bathrooms.
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wtf does that mean?
Carter says straight out that Tebow cannot throw the ball. He's all about looking good while losing rather than looking how you look and winning. He went further and said that even if the Broncos whip the Jets with this style, his opinion will not change. That's the textbook definition of ignant, I'd say.
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Tiki's just looking for a job.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:39 AM   #12
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Did anyone actually read this? It's pretty good.
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Did anyone actually read this? It's pretty good.
I did, and I agree, it's a really good take-maybe Tiki has a brain after all-
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yeah, I read it. I'll believe a team can go deep in the playoffs throwing less than 10 passes a game when I see it. But rushing for over 250 yds and 4.4 per attempt is impressive. He's right that an offense can't be succesful if it tries a scheme it doesn't have personnel for.
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Tiki makes some valid points about the future of QBs in the NFL. If the Broncos could win with Tebow completing two passes, what’s wrong with that?
nothing's wrong with winning.

however, on a side note, I'm glad the giants won the SB after that douche left the team
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I'll believe a team can go deep in the playoffs throwing less than 10 passes a game when I see it.
Agree. At some point you come up against defenses against which you can't succeed without at least the threat of the pass. They'll completely take the run away from you without it.
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yeah, I read it. I'll believe a team can go deep in the playoffs throwing less than 10 passes a game when I see it. But rushing for over 250 yds and 4.4 per attempt is impressive. He's right that an offense can't be succesful if it tries a scheme it doesn't have personnel for.
'72-'73 dolphins won two SB's where Bob Griese threw all of 18 or 19 passes in them...combined
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I'm not do sure Cam Newton couldn't run a similar offense. Whether the Panthers would allow him to is another story. Michael Vick is way too injury prone. I do expect Carolina to implement some read option into their gameplan at some point this season. Copycat league
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:26 AM   #19
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I dont have a problem with the way we are winning , when we was running TD the ground it worked well for us ....
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sometimes if you zig when everyone else zags, you can win big.
apple did it against big IBM 360s.
the Germans did it with blitzkrieg.
Ford did it with the Model T (vs custom fit cars of the time)

depends on how fast the competition catches up.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:27 AM   #21
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Tiki's got a point. If you don't have the skill set to do what you been planning, then you'd better change your plans. It's like, if you are not capable of being a good father, you should probably divorce your pregnant wife, and move on to what you are good at, say, banging 23 year old interns.
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Agree. At some point you come up against defenses against which you can't succeed without at least the threat of the pass. They'll completely take the run away from you without it.
Well, we'll see. The Jests have some locker room/moral issues. I mean when Norv publicly b**** slaps a coach in the media, and then Billicheat tells him to suck his dick ... it ain't good. If Den can keep running it for over 4 on first and second down, I think we'll keep seeing it until some defense can shut it down. Shanny wasn't exactly shy about hammering his tailbacks at defenses, but the online just manned KC. I'm looking forward to this. Obviously McCoy looked at the Det tape and decided that trying to get Tebow to read blitzes and find the open guy wasn't an option right now. On paper, this looks like a good test for the oline.
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'72-'73 dolphins won two SB's where Bob Griese threw all of 18 or 19 passes in them...combined
I think the game's changed. But I agree with Tiki that the nfl is going to see guys with not exactly classic qb skills. But there's no way I'd compare Tebow to Cam or either of those two to Vick. They're all different. And I have an open mind on Tebow.
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Griese stats in SB VII 8 of 11 for 88 yards 1 TD 1 INT

Griese stats in SB VIII 6 of 7 for 73 yards 0 TD 0 INT

Combined 14 of 18 for 161 yards 1 TD 1 INT....

dolphins rushed for 184 yards in VII...196 yards in VIII.

so it is possible to win SB's with the formula we're running...problem is our QB isn't hitting on 78% of his pass attempts.
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I'd be OK with that. McGahee, Barber and Tebow sounds like a winning backfield...
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