BO the Joke

[Tombstone RJ]

Wow, this guy is a moron:

http://news.yahoo.com/sarkozy-told-o...092347721.html

[TonyR]

Check out how your "joke" has gained 21 points among independent voters over the last couple of months.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150677/Ob...Candidate.aspx

[ghwk]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Wow, this guy is a moron:

http://news.yahoo.com/sarkozy-told-o...092347721.html

You are getting really emotionally invested that he is going to lose. You may want to start opening your mind to the possibility that he won't so you don't slit your wrists in 2012.

[Drek]

How is having a real conversation with another global power's leader about the problems with Israel a joke?

At what point do we re-evaluate the welfare state and welfare military that is Israel? the GOP loves to rail on welfare Americans, well what about welfare countries where we pay basically the full freight for their military, fight all their battles for them, both literal wars and political battles.

Meanwhile they keep breaking international laws by stealing land and killing Palestinians.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by Drek

At what point do we re-evaluate the welfare state and welfare military that is Israel? the GOP loves to rail on welfare Americans, well what about welfare countries where we pay basically the full freight for their military, fight all their battles for them, both literal wars and political battles.

Yup. We give Israel $2-3 billion/year. AIPAC is holds a lot of influence over D.C.

[El Minion]

Originally Posted by Drek

How is having a real conversation with another global power's leader about the problems with Israel a joke?

At what point do we re-evaluate the welfare state and welfare military that is Israel? the GOP loves to rail on welfare Americans, well what about welfare countries where we pay basically the full freight for their military, fight all their battles for them, both literal wars and political battles.

Meanwhile they keep breaking international laws by stealing land and killing Palestinians.

Anti-semite! No criticism of Israel is allowed unless you want to be branded and shouted down as an Anti-semite. Only pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab, and anti-Muslim bigotry is allowed.

E.g.:

Jennifer Rubin’s boss sees no problem with anti-Arab bigotry
Washington Post blogger endorses the ravings of an extremist neocon, gets compliments from her boss



And she doesn't even know how to link properly, either (Credit: Twitter)

Jennifer Rubin, the Washington Post’s official correspondent for passing along and endorsing the Romney campaign’s anonymous criticisms of Rick Perry, recently “retweeted” a link to this blog post by Rachel Abrams, in which Adams responds to the release of Gilad Shalit by calling on Israel to commit mass murder against Palestinians in revenge. Rubin kind of got in a bit of trouble for this, except not really.

The grandiloquent post in question requests either (it’s not entirely clear) that Israelis feed Shalit’s captors to sharks or that they feed his captors along with women and “their offspring” to sharks. (I imagine Abrams considers nearly every Palestinian in Gaza to be complicit in Shalit’s imprisonment, so this distinction may not amount to much.) Either way, the post makes liberal usage of unambiguous anti-Arab slurs (“devils’ spawn,” “savages,” “animals”) and, well, it’s a call for mass slaughter.

After various people, including Max Blumenthal, said it was perhaps inappropriate for a Washington Post blogger to endorse this sort of talk, Post ombudsman Patrick Pexton took the case. Pexton concluded that the retweet was in poor taste, but for him it was more of an issue of inappropriate Twitter usage than it was of Rubin being essentially an awful person who agrees with a virulent anti-Arab bigot.

To demonstrate that she essentially agrees with Abrams’ perspective, Rubin then tweeted a link to another Abrams post, calling it “chilling, sobering, eloquent.” This post puts the word “Palestinians” in scare quotes and places Mahmoud Abbas in a list of “blood-worshippers.”

Who is Rachel Abrams, besides a woman who writes like a teenager imitating Marty Peretz? She’s another talentless hack born into neocon royalty. Abrams is the daughter of Midge Decter, and apparently inherited her mother’s obsessive homophobia. Her stepfather is neoconservative founding father Norman Podhoretz, and she is married to Bush administration Middle East honcho Elliot Abrams. An intense hatred of Arabs is basically the one theme of her writings, repeated endlessly, in an infinite number of variations.

Here, for example, she tells the inspiring tale of literally screaming “**** you, Arabs” while driving past the Israeli West Bank barrier wall. This isn’t someone making any sort of controversial political argument. This is just someone who hates, intensely, a specific ethnic group.

So, with the ombudsman having weighed in more or less on the side of it being a bad idea for Jennifer Rubin to endorse this woman, we come to editorial page editor Fred Hiatt, who had this to say:

As a general matter I think it isn’t wise for me to comment on the work of the ombudsman, who is entitled to his views, and over whom I do not have editorial control.

However, I will say this: I think Jennifer is an excellent journalist and a relentless reporter. I think because she has strong views, and because she is as willing to take on her home team, as it were, as the visitors, she comes under more scrutiny than many and is often the target of unjustified criticism. I think she brings enormous value to the Post.

Yeah, Fred, people aren’t criticizing her for “strong views,” they’re criticizing her for endorsing what looks to be eliminationist anti-Arab rhetoric from a bigoted psycho.

In Hiatt’s world, “hating Arabs” is just a controversial opinion that “brings enormous value to the Post.” As Blumenthal says, if Rubin had supported a blog post with the exact same tone written about black people — or Jews! — she’d be out of job right now. Instead, she’s an “excellent journalist,” according to her boss.
That’s the state of the liberal media today.

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Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon. Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene More Alex Pareene

[TonyR]

Regarding the above, it's funny how many righty morons frequently refer to WaPo as a liberally biased newspaper.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Drek

How is having a real conversation with another global power's leader about the problems with Israel a joke?

At what point do we re-evaluate the welfare state and welfare military that is Israel? the GOP loves to rail on welfare Americans, well what about welfare countries where we pay basically the full freight for their military, fight all their battles for them, both literal wars and political battles.

Meanwhile they keep breaking international laws by stealing land and killing Palestinians.

Israel is our one and only real ally in the ME and is a true democracy. If anyone thinks there is one other country in the ME region that we can trust they are living in a dream world. Saudi Arabia is going to side with radical Islam if push comes to shove, same with Turkey, same with Egypt (who is now in total flux). The "Arab Spring" is going to do nothing but destablize the entire region and Israel is sitting right in the middle of it.

The Palestinians harbor terrorists or are terrorists and pawns of state funded terrorism. They refuse to even acknowledge Israel as a state because they want to destroy Israel, not live in peace with Israel. Israel has come to the peace table time and time again and negotiated in good faith only to have the corrupt palestians waste everyone's time.

The fact that BO got caught on tape basically agreeing with the frog is a huge gaff on his part, even if he agrees. The French are about as trust worthy as Pakistan when it comes to their foriegn policy. All BO had to do is say nothing. This is every bit as bad as Bush getting caught on tape for uttering stupid comments to Blair about hezbollah http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=1248

Bush's comments were about terrorists and he got slammed for it. BO's comments about our closest ally in the ME.

[peacepipe]

whatever,they may be allies but the fact of the matter is they need us a whole lot more than we need them.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

whatever,they may be allies but the fact of the matter is they need us a whole lot more than we need them.

I disagree. The intelligence that Israel can provide is invaluable. They are way more wired in to the ME than the US.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Israel is our one and only real ally in the ME and is a true democracy. If anyone thinks there is one other country in the ME region that we can trust they are living in a dream world. Saudi Arabia is going to side with radical Islam if push comes to shove, same with Turkey, same with Egypt (who is now in total flux). The "Arab Spring" is going to do nothing but destablize the entire region and Israel is sitting right in the middle of it.

The Palestinians harbor terrorists or are terrorists and pawns of state funded terrorism. They refuse to even acknowledge Israel as a state because they want to destroy Israel, not live in peace with Israel. Israel has come to the peace table time and time again and negotiated in good faith only to have the corrupt palestians waste everyone's time.

The fact that BO got caught on tape basically agreeing with the frog is a huge gaff on his part, even if he agrees. The French are about as trust worthy as Pakistan when it comes to their foriegn policy. All BO had to do is say nothing. This is every bit as bad as Bush getting caught on tape for uttering stupid comments to Blair about hezbollah http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=1248

Bush's comments were about terrorists and he got slammed for it. BO's comments about our closest ally in the ME.

This.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I disagree. The intelligence that Israel can provide is invaluable. They are way more wired in to the ME than the US.

They may have intel,but it doesn't change the fact that they can't defend themselves without us. they are completely dependent on the US for their defense.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

They may have intel,but it doesn't change the fact that they can't defend themselves without us. they are completely dependent on the US for their defense.

Israel has been attacked how many times since 1947 again? The USA provides all its allies with material support, including Israel. However Israel actually has to "defend" itself.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Israel has been attacked how many times since 1947 again? The USA provides all its allies with material support, including Israel. However Israel actually has to "defend" itself.

almost all there military capacity has come from us.They have the atitude that they can do whatever they want because we'll always bail them out.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

almost all there military capacity has come from us.They have the atitude that they can do whatever they want because we'll always bail them out.

I'd love proof of this statement. Israel produces much of it's own weapons, and it buys a lot of it's weapons, and not all of it is from the USA. Do you have any proof "they can do whatever they want because we'll always bail them out."?

[TonyR]

"There’s a ****ing art to the first term because you’re always running for a second term the whole time. It’s like Clinton’s first term. You can’t really do your gangsta sh*t until your second term. … Even Bush couldn’t really **** up the world until his second term. That’s when he put the hammer down. I’m like everybody, I want more action. But I understand that he’s trying not to p*ss off a lot of people. But I believe wholeheartedly if he’s back in, he’s going to do some gangsta sh*t," - Chris Rock.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67980.html

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Israel is our one and only real ally in the ME and is a true democracy. If anyone thinks there is one other country in the ME region that we can trust they are living in a dream world. Saudi Arabia is going to side with radical Islam if push comes to shove, same with Turkey, same with Egypt (who is now in total flux). The "Arab Spring" is going to do nothing but destablize the entire region and Israel is sitting right in the middle of it.

The Palestinians harbor terrorists or are terrorists and pawns of state funded terrorism. They refuse to even acknowledge Israel as a state because they want to destroy Israel, not live in peace with Israel. Israel has come to the peace table time and time again and negotiated in good faith only to have the corrupt palestians waste everyone's time.

The fact that BO got caught on tape basically agreeing with the frog is a huge gaff on his part, even if he agrees. The French are about as trust worthy as Pakistan when it comes to their foriegn policy. All BO had to do is say nothing. This is every bit as bad as Bush getting caught on tape for uttering stupid comments to Blair about hezbollah http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=1248

Bush's comments were about terrorists and he got slammed for it. BO's comments about our closest ally in the ME.

Its incredible how stupid both Obama and his supporters are.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by TonyR

"There’s a ****ing art to the first term because you’re always running for a second term the whole time. It’s like Clinton’s first term. You can’t really do your gangsta sh*t until your second term. … Even Bush couldn’t really **** up the world until his second term. That’s when he put the hammer down. I’m like everybody, I want more action. But I understand that he’s trying not to p*ss off a lot of people. But I believe wholeheartedly if he’s back in, he’s going to do some gangsta sh*t," - Chris Rock.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67980.html

Full retard.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Israel is our one and only real ally in the ME and is a true democracy. If anyone thinks there is one other country in the ME region that we can trust they are living in a dream world. Saudi Arabia is going to side with radical Islam if push comes to shove, same with Turkey, same with Egypt (who is now in total flux). The "Arab Spring" is going to do nothing but destablize the entire region and Israel is sitting right in the middle of it.

The Palestinians harbor terrorists or are terrorists and pawns of state funded terrorism. They refuse to even acknowledge Israel as a state because they want to destroy Israel, not live in peace with Israel. Israel has come to the peace table time and time again and negotiated in good faith only to have the corrupt palestians waste everyone's time.

The fact that BO got caught on tape basically agreeing with the frog is a huge gaff on his part, even if he agrees. The French are about as trust worthy as Pakistan when it comes to their foriegn policy. All BO had to do is say nothing. This is every bit as bad as Bush getting caught on tape for uttering stupid comments to Blair about hezbollah http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=1248

Bush's comments were about terrorists and he got slammed for it. BO's comments about our closest ally in the ME.