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Old 10-25-2011, 05:28 AM   #1
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Default What I want to see against the Lions

Screens. Lots of them. Bubble Screens, reverse screens. Screens to the Tight End, Full Back and Running Back. If teams are going to keep dialing up the Blitzes the way Miami did, we need to take advantage. Also, some quick slants. Let, Thomas or Fells drag across the field and give Tebow some quick check downs on first and second down. Let him start to build more of a rhythm. Hell, if we think we can do it without breaking him, lets Line up Demarious Thomas in the Slot a couple of times to see if we can get him matched up with some Linebackers.

Things I don't want to see, runs up the gut. Against Suh and the Lions D-line, its going to be a non-starter. Especially with our interior line that has improved but still isn't going to be blowing the Lions Defensive Tackles off of the ball.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:35 AM   #2
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Yes to the screens, Tebow needs to learn how to throw one. It makes me laugh how hard it is for him to master the dink and dunk passes but he can laser in a 30yard out. Figure it out Tebow, fix something each game from here on out.

I will also be happy if he gets the center QB exchange down this game. Well that and a quick drop and release.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:38 AM   #3
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Screens. Lots of them. Bubble Screens, reverse screens. Screens to the Tight End, Full Back and Running Back.

wait, wait, wait, McD's back?
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:42 AM   #4
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wait, wait, wait, McD's back?
No, we're going further back to Bates' offensive playcalling.
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Bootlegs.... lots and lots of bootlegs....
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Yes to the screens, Tebow needs to learn how to throw one. It makes me laugh how hard it is for him to master the dink and dunk passes but he can laser in a 30yard out. Figure it out Tebow, fix something each game from here on out.

I will also be happy if he gets the center QB exchange down this game. Well that and a quick drop and release.
Tebow's a master of the screen pass. He threw a perfect one to Moreno in the SD game that went for a TD.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:55 AM   #7
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Tebow's a master of the screen pass. He threw a perfect one to Moreno in the SD game that went for a TD.
He also threw a perfect one to Moreno in the Miami game that was about 26 feet over his head.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:59 AM   #8
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Bootlegs.... lots and lots of bootlegs....
Yes, forgot about that in my original post. If they want to put 8 men in the box, run the bootleg and make them pay. I just want to see us giving Tebow more options than hand the Ball off, or try to throw deep. It blew my mind that we didn't see more high percentage pass plays called early in the game to help Tebow establish a rhythm. Hell, even savy Vets need that sometimes.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:02 AM   #9
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In a game we've got little chance to win, let Tebow loose.
Give him some slack, he needs to gain confidence and he can't do that if he's kept on a short leash...
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I agree with lots of the things said here. As I also said in a previous thread, I think Shanahan's system with Jake would have been the perfect fit for Tebow. Zone stretch, play action, bootlegs, and the occasional deep pass.

Anyway, I think lots of high percentage timing passes would be great, but in the long run, Tebow just seems to win with the big downfield play. I see no reason not to chuck it deep, if Tebow can manage to scramble away from the pressure.
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He also threw a perfect one to Moreno in the Miami game that was about 26 feet over his head.
That wasn't a screen pass. Tebow rolled out to his left under pressure and just airmailed it.


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I will also be happy if he gets the center QB exchange down this game.
I don't recall him having a problem with the exchange in the Miami game.
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He also threw a perfect one to Moreno in the Miami game that was about 26 feet over his head.
That wasn't a designed screen pass
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That wasn't a designed screen pass
Good work.

I'm tired of people seeing a desperation pass and assuming that it was the intended play called.

Folks...the nice QB rollout pass to Larsen wasn't the intended play called but rather a nice adjustment by Tebow.

Tebow had a number of screw-ups in the game. If you're looking to find one, it's not hard.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:49 AM   #14
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What I want to see this game, and what it will take for the Broncos to win, is Tim making much quicker reads and decisions. He needs to take make reads while taking his drop, make a decision, and deliver the ball...

I don't like that every other play he is either taking off on a QB sneak or getting hit in the pocket...he needs to step up in the pocket and fire.

He needs to have a calmer mind and stick to a set schedule while delivering the ball, all the roll outs, qb sneaks, options, are not condusive to accuracy in the passing game.

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Old 10-25-2011, 07:56 AM   #15
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Start running the two minute drill from the start of the game.

There, problem solved?

I know, John Fox's worst nightmare. Lets be honest. How many games in a row does Tebow need to run the two minute offense so well before they realize that is probably what he does best?

Keep telling yourselves the Dolphins, Chargers twice, the Texans were all in prevents. They werent. None of them were.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:58 AM   #16
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I would also like to see Dumervil be part of the sack plan and Von Miller to keep up his rookie record sack pace.
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That wasn't a designed screen pass
It was still a pass to a wide open person that most QB's make.

Look, I am done throwing rocks at Tebow, I really want the guy to succeed. I want another Miller type impact player on D next year not a QB with our 1st pick.

What I want from the next game? Better accuracy on the shorter throws.
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It was still a pass to a wide open person that most QB's make.

Look, I am done throwing rocks at Tebow, I really want the guy to succeed. I want another Miller type impact player on D next year not a QB with our 1st pick.

What I want from the next game? Better accuracy on the shorter throws.
He is 3 for 4 on screen passes this year so far. One to Moreno. He was 2 of 3 on screen passes Sunday.

Hit a nice one to Larsen and the well designed, well sold screen pass to fells.

He needs to get more accurate, but I have a feeling he will struggle with certain passes that other dont as long as he is QB.

He needs to improve big time if there is going to be any long term success.
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I like it! Screens, bubble screens, slants, and the bootleg. I think the bootleg could be very good considering Miami collapsed the pocket a lot...something Detroit could very well do. Get Tebow out in the open so he can survey the whole field without three guys in his face. He can still hit guys running across the middle for some big gainers.
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I'd liek to see a run heavy west coast offense again. for crying outloud, we had the friendliest QB system in the NFL for 14 years.
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I like it! Screens, bubble screens, slants, and the bootleg. I think the bootleg could be very good considering Miami collapsed the pocket a lot...something Detroit could very well do. Get Tebow out in the open so he can survey the whole field without three guys in his face. He can still hit guys running across the middle for some big gainers.
You need to have pretty good footwork to effectively sell and execute a bootleg.
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You need to have pretty good footwork to effectively sell and execute a bootleg.
I take it you believe Orton runs a good bootleg?
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Keep telling yourselves the Dolphins... were all in prevents. They werent. None of them were.
Krieger disagrees with you.

"By contrast, during most of his completions down the stretch, they dropped seven into coverage in more of a "prevent" defense."

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