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Old 10-23-2011, 06:46 PM   #1
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:55 PM   #2
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Do Orton too...

I am telling you.. both Orton and Tebow do the same thing.. play ultra conservative until the game is lost then try to pull it out finally playing aggressively.

This is why I think it is the coaches.

Difference is Tebow can pull the games out and Orton can't.
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Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:58 PM   #4
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Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton
That isn't even close to being correct. The one you keep claiming should have been a pick 6 wasn't even close to a pick. The guy run, jumped, and stretched. He never even grazed the ball... A near pick is one that hits a guy in the hands.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:00 PM   #5
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Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton
shoulda, woulda, coulda... and $5 will get you a cup of Starbucks half-double-decaf crapuccino (or whatever the F they sell since i don't know because i don't drink coffee)
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That isn't even close to being correct. The one you keep claiming should have been a pick 6 wasn't even close to a pick. The guy run, jumped, and stretched. He never even grazed the ball... A near pick is one that hits a guy in the hands.
Whatever it hit him in the fuggin hands sugarcoat it all you want it was what it was
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Whatever it hit him in the fuggin hands sugarcoat it all you want it was what it was
No it didn't. The defender never touched the ball. Not even a little bit.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:03 PM   #8
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It went right through his hands. It wasn't really close to being a pick six though.
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Yeah I don't play the shoulda, woulda, coulda game.


If you're gonna play that game - you could scrutinize every single throw by every NFL QB. Same for every TD catch by a WR - "He could have dropped that and then....."


Point is - the guy didn't pick the ball, and it never did touch his hands. You'll have to watch that one over.

Not defending the guys piss poor 3 1/2 qtrs of play but we also can't say "this should have happened" or "that should of happened".

It didn't - those are the legit real world stats. Asterisk them as you please I guess but they won't be official like the ones above.
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Should have made two FGs.
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Good thread, night and day is putting it mildly. And both TDs came in the last 2:44? Build him a statue...

But really ... three quarters with just 24 passing yards? Be honest, who fell off the bandwagon at that point?
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Yeah, but he nailed the one that mattered
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Tebows overall stats: 17/37, 240 yards, 3td, 0int .... 94.4 QB rating... something like a 101 Total QBR rating.

I'll repeat what I said on facebook: Tebow looks like he belongs in the NFL about as much as a tanning supply store belongs in Nigeria, but he gets the job done. Color me excited.
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Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton
He's a confident guy with excellent athletic ability. Like Tebow said himself, "If you're not confident, you've already lost." I think he'll settle down a little bit and throw better. He has the potential to be more consistent passing, obviously needs to get starts and practice with the first teamers. Several drops, and not much separation by receivers hurt. He might have had a better game if Lloyd was still on the team getting some separation.
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No thanks to the coaching staff. Jebus, I was wondering if they thought the ball was at the 24 instead of the 34.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:07 AM   #16
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Tebow has a lot to learn but the fact he is a gamer is funner to watch then Orton.
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The guy instills belief in his teammates when the chips are down. From a young QB and leader, there is not much more you can ask. He can fix his mechanics, he can learn to read defenses and make better throws. His coaches also don't help him with their playcalling. He never gives up. I'll take what Tebow offers every day of the week.
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Do Orton too...

I am telling you.. both Orton and Tebow do the same thing.. play ultra conservative until the game is lost then try to pull it out finally playing aggressively.

This is why I think it is the coaches.

Difference is Tebow can pull the games out and Orton can't.
Sounds like the Dan Reeves game plan
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In that vein, I would say Fox has to go. It's obvious this team is going to move forward with Tebow, which means Fox just isn't the guy.

We need to get a coach in that has the innovation to move this offense forward by taking advantage of Tebow. Fox and probably McCoy, just aren't those guys.
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In that vein, I would say Fox has to go. It's obvious this team is going to move forward with Tebow, which means Fox just isn't the guy.

We need to get a coach in that has the innovation to move this offense forward by taking advantage of Tebow. Fox and probably McCoy, just aren't those guys.
fox could end up being the perfect coach though, a defensive guy who has a QB like this. pittsburgh like.
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Whatever it hit him in the fuggin hands sugarcoat it all you want it was what it was
You are exactly right. It was an incomplete pass.
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Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton
We'll count the pass that hit DT in the belly as a catch too, and we'll count the pass that almost was completed to Royal (when Tebow was blasted releasing it) since it "hit him in the fuggin hands" about as much as the "pick 6" hit the defender in the fuggin hands.

This is fun, we'll start adding and subtracting all the stuff we want to!!

Yes, that first pass was a poor decision, and I think that scared McCoy into going run, run, QB draw, punt until he was forced to release the Tebow. This reminded me a lot of the first game last year in Oakland, except we pulled it out.

The game plan should be to get Tebow into a rhythm, or at least some confidence early on, then pound the run (though with Willis breaking his hand...).

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@AdamSchefter
Of the six quarterbacks that made their first start of the season Sunday, Tim Tebow was the only one to emerge a winner..
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fox could end up being the perfect coach though, a defensive guy who has a QB like this. pittsburgh like.
I'm not sure, but I get a feeling that Tebow is so unconventional, and such a random factor, that he'll put up some points, one way or another, against almost anyone, but it will be a long time (if ever) before he gains enough consistency and accuracy to manage any kind of controlled offense.

If that's the case, then it makes sense to invest most of the prime talent into the Defense. Tebow's gonna do what he's gonna do, and it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference who's out there with him. So Denver may as well build up the D (which we need to do anyway) to keep him in striking range.
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Just to add to Tebow Fevor, Kerry Byrne of Cold Hard Football Facts emailed me with this last night: In four starts, Tebow now has two fourth-quarter comebacks from at least 13 points down. In John Elway's career, guess how many he had. Two.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1bhbdzox9
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