Cain tops field again in Nevada GOP straw poll. Update (10-29-11): Cain Tops Romney in Iowa Poll

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...op-straw-poll/

The good news continued for Herman Cain Friday, as the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO won the Western Republican Leadership Conference straw poll of GOP presidential contenders, edging out former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich — and leaving Texas Gov. Rick Perry in a distant fifth place.

Mr. Cain, whose longshot campaign got a major boost by winning a major Florida straw poll last month, received nearly 31 percent of the vote and Mr. Romney pulled in nearly 29 percent of the vote. Mr. Gingrich, who has also risen in recent national polls after his campaign’s shaky start, secured more than 20 percent of the vote. Texas Rep. Ron Paul finished with about 10 percent, Mr. Perry received almost 4 percent, and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota received just 1 percent.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...poll-in-nevada

Herman Cain placed first Friday in a straw poll of Republican activists at the Western Republican Leadership Conference.

Cain took 31 percent of the more than 550 votes cast. Mitt Romney came in second with 29 percent, while Newt Gingrich's 21 percent put him in third.

Although straw polls are of limited use in predicting who will be the eventual nominee, they can be revealing indicators of whether candidates have grassroots momentum or appeal to certain populations.

The top tier of the straw poll also mirrored the trend in the Republican presidential race nationally. Cain and Romney are on equal footing in recent polls, with Cain taking first place in some surveys and Romney topping the charts in others.

[ant1999e]

I hope.he keeps the.momentum going.

[barryr]

But, but, but, he is contradictory about abortion though. Yeah, just a really good argument not to vote for Cain. 99% of us hold a contradictory opinion about abortion. Yes, you can have abortion, well not partial birth types. No, no abortions, well you can if there is rape or incest. So both sides of the argument are largely contradicting. A life is a life regardless of how it came about or when you end it. Rare to find someone on either side who is fully for one side of the argument and no such stipulations.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Gotta remember to bump this thread when Cain goes down in flames.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Gotta remember to bump this thread when Cain goes down in flames.

This guy is a complete joke, not unlike Paul. Neither one knows anything about basic math. But it's understandable that Right Wingers think he is the "next coming" considering their past history of candidates.

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Cain's stumbles fuel doubts on electability
ATLANTA (AP) — Herman Cain is learning the hard way what it means to face the glare of the national spotlight.

After captivating Republicans hungry for an alternative to Mitt Romney, the presidential hopeful has made a series of stumbles that have left some questioning if he's ready for the White House. The Georgia businessman has been on a media blitz since a rise in the polls catapulted him into the top tier of the race for the Republican party nomination.

But Cain has sometimes appeared to be in over his head. In the last week, he:

—Suggested a fence along the U.S. border with Mexico should be electrified to kill illegal immigrants trying to pass into the United States. Cain later called it a joke and apologized if anyone was offended by the remarks.

—Said he would negotiate for the release of U.S. prisoners held by terrorists, then reversed himself and said he had misunderstood the question.

—Muddied the water on abortion, telling CNN that, while he strongly opposes abortion, "the government shouldn't be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to social decisions that they need to make." He later issued a statement reiterating his opposition to abortion.

—Amid criticism that his signature 9-9-9 tax overhaul would force the majority of Americans to pay more to the government, he reworked the plan to exclude the poorest Americans and to allow some deductions. Backers of Cain's original plan had praised its simplicity, and piling on loopholes could erode into that support.

Through it all, Cain has appeared unflappable. He chalks up the reversals to the breakneck pace of the race.

"In a couple of instances ... I misspoke because of the pace of the interview. I don't call it a flip-flop. I'd rather come back and explain to people what I really meant," Cain said Friday after an economic speech in Detroit. "It doesn't send mixed messages. It just shows that I'm willing to correct myself ... if in fact I need to correct myself for clarity. That's what I'm trying to achieve."

For those in the GOP still in search of a candidate to back, his rocky rollout on the national stage has reinforced the view that Cain — he has never held elected office — is not ready for the big leagues.

"I'm looking for someone that's electable and right now I don't think he fits into that category," said 60-year-old Gene Carkeet of Memphis, Tenn., who attended a recent Cain rally there but remains undecided.

Gwen Ecklund, Republican chairwoman in Crawford County, Iowa, said Cain "has had a bad week."

"I do think it made some people take a second look," she said.

Cain's stumbles come as the campaign of rival Rick Perry shows some early signs of renewed vigor. Perry has plummeted in public opinion polls as Cain has climbed. But the Texas governor turned in a spirited and combative debate performance at a recent forum in New Hampshire and plans to unveil his own tax reform proposal relying on a flat tax under which everyone would pay the same income tax rate.

Cain and Perry are competing for support from tea party groups and evangelical voters.

Ralph Reed, a Republican strategist who founded the national Christian Coalition and now heads the Faith and Freedom Coalition, said Cain is going through the growing pains that come with sudden national exposure.

"It's a learning curve for any candidate who moves from the back of the pack to front of the pack," Reed said. "You undergo the political equivalent of a GI tract exam ... where every word is weighed and chewed over and scrutinized."

Reed said that after months of jumping on every media appearance offered, Cain and his staff must now limit his exposure and hammer home carefully honed talking points.

CONT.

[TonyR]

Is Herman Cain's pizza any good?

http://bcove.me/64ssuptn

[Rohirrim]

I'll be surprised if he can take more than single digits in NH.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

This guy is a complete joke, not unlike Paul. Neither one knows anything about basic math. But it's understandable that Right Wingers think he is the "next coming" considering their past history of candidates.

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Cain's stumbles fuel doubts on electability
ATLANTA (AP) — Herman Cain is learning the hard way what it means to face the glare of the national spotlight.

After captivating Republicans hungry for an alternative to Mitt Romney, the presidential hopeful has made a series of stumbles that have left some questioning if he's ready for the White House. The Georgia businessman has been on a media blitz since a rise in the polls catapulted him into the top tier of the race for the Republican party nomination.

But Cain has sometimes appeared to be in over his head. In the last week, he:

—Suggested a fence along the U.S. border with Mexico should be electrified to kill illegal immigrants trying to pass into the United States. Cain later called it a joke and apologized if anyone was offended by the remarks.

—Said he would negotiate for the release of U.S. prisoners held by terrorists, then reversed himself and said he had misunderstood the question.

—Muddied the water on abortion, telling CNN that, while he strongly opposes abortion, "the government shouldn't be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to social decisions that they need to make." He later issued a statement reiterating his opposition to abortion.

—Amid criticism that his signature 9-9-9 tax overhaul would force the majority of Americans to pay more to the government, he reworked the plan to exclude the poorest Americans and to allow some deductions. Backers of Cain's original plan had praised its simplicity, and piling on loopholes could erode into that support.

Through it all, Cain has appeared unflappable. He chalks up the reversals to the breakneck pace of the race.

"In a couple of instances ... I misspoke because of the pace of the interview. I don't call it a flip-flop. I'd rather come back and explain to people what I really meant," Cain said Friday after an economic speech in Detroit. "It doesn't send mixed messages. It just shows that I'm willing to correct myself ... if in fact I need to correct myself for clarity. That's what I'm trying to achieve."

For those in the GOP still in search of a candidate to back, his rocky rollout on the national stage has reinforced the view that Cain — he has never held elected office — is not ready for the big leagues.

"I'm looking for someone that's electable and right now I don't think he fits into that category," said 60-year-old Gene Carkeet of Memphis, Tenn., who attended a recent Cain rally there but remains undecided.

Gwen Ecklund, Republican chairwoman in Crawford County, Iowa, said Cain "has had a bad week."

"I do think it made some people take a second look," she said.

Cain's stumbles come as the campaign of rival Rick Perry shows some early signs of renewed vigor. Perry has plummeted in public opinion polls as Cain has climbed. But the Texas governor turned in a spirited and combative debate performance at a recent forum in New Hampshire and plans to unveil his own tax reform proposal relying on a flat tax under which everyone would pay the same income tax rate.

Cain and Perry are competing for support from tea party groups and evangelical voters.

Ralph Reed, a Republican strategist who founded the national Christian Coalition and now heads the Faith and Freedom Coalition, said Cain is going through the growing pains that come with sudden national exposure.

"It's a learning curve for any candidate who moves from the back of the pack to front of the pack," Reed said. "You undergo the political equivalent of a GI tract exam ... where every word is weighed and chewed over and scrutinized."

Reed said that after months of jumping on every media appearance offered, Cain and his staff must now limit his exposure and hammer home carefully honed talking points.

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Did you really just say Cain knows nothing about basic math?

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Did you really just say Cain knows nothing about basic math?

These are the same people that wouldn't know what real science looks like.

[ant1999e]

I smell liberal fear. If they weren't scared, they wouldn't even be talking about him. Isn't in funny how everyone whose not a liberal is an idiot?

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

I smell liberal fear. If they weren't scared, they wouldn't even be talking about him. Isn't in funny how everyone whose not a liberal is an idiot?

Fear? No. He's just the flavor of the month. The media is playing him up so he's the #1 subject of political discussion right now. In a month, it will be somebody else.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

I smell liberal fear. If they weren't scared, they wouldn't even be talking about him. Isn't in funny how everyone whose not a liberal is an idiot?

It is true. You can always see who's the greatest threat to the liberal agenda by who they are attacking the most. Keep it up Cain!

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Fear? No. He's just the flavor of the month. The media is playing him up so he's the #1 subject of political discussion right now. In a month, it will be somebody else.

The media isn't playing him up. Why are you line trying so hard to tear him down? Why no more Bachman or Perry attacks?

I was supporting Cain long before it was cool for libs to bash him.

Funny how there's no cries of racism when the libs attack Cain. I guess he isn't as black as Obama.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

The media isn't playing him up. Why are you line trying so hard to tear him down? Why no more Bachman or Perry attacks?

I was supporting Cain long before it was cool for libs to bash him.

Also funny no Romney stuff either? Hmmmmmmm

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

The media isn't playing him up. Why are you line trying so hard to tear him down? Why no more Bachman or Perry attacks?

I was supporting Cain long before it was cool for libs to bash him.

Funny how there's no cries of racism when the libs attack Cain. I guess he isn't as black as Obama.

Whatever. The election is a year away. By then, the political landscape will have changed many times.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Whatever. The election is a year away. By then, the political landscape will have changed many times.

I just hope Cain is still on top. My second choice is Paul although he is a little crazy.

[TonyR]

Romney has only one legit GOP threat right now and that is Perry. Your fascination with Cain is cute but for various reason that have mentioned numerous times here in the WRP forum the guy is just not a serious candidate over the long haul. I don't know what I, or anyone, would possibly have to "fear" about a candidate that won't get the nomination. But carry on with your ignorance. You can't teach those who refuse to be taught.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Romney has only one legit GOP threat right now and that is Perry. Your fascination with Cain is cute but for various reason that have mentioned numerous times here in the WRP forum the guy is just not a serious candidate over the long haul. I don't know what I, or anyone, would possibly have to "fear" about a candidate that won't get the nomination. But carry on with your ignorance. You can't teach those who refuse to be taught.

And they said Obama didn't have a chance but the dems wanted something different. The. Conservatives are at that point now and either Cain or Paul seem to be that change. I'm just hoping we don't get hoodwinked like you all did with Obama.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Romney has only one legit GOP threat right now and that is Perry. Your fascination with Cain is cute but for various reason that have mentioned numerous times here in the WRP forum the guy is just not a serious candidate over the long haul. I don't know what I, or anyone, would possibly have to "fear" about a candidate that won't get the nomination. But carry on with your ignorance. You can't teach those who refuse to be taught.

Legit? Romneycare!

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

Legit? Romneycare!

He's a liberal.

[Requiem]

Nobody is worried about Herman Cain. Anybody with a brain knows he has absolutely zero shot at winning the caucus and primary cycle to get the nomination.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Nobody is worried about Herman Cain. Anybody with a brain knows he has absolutely zero shot at winning the caucus and primary cycle to get the nomination.

they said the same thing about Obama.

Know what, you're right Req. Why don't you just tell us who we should vote for.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

they said the same thing about Obama.

No, they really didn't.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

Know what, you're right Req. Why don't you just tell us who we should vote for.

For whomever your heart desires. It is your right.

I am just being a realist on election dynamics and the fact that Cain has neither the clout, support or political prowess to earn the nomination for the GOP.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Requiem

No, they really didn't.

Smoking marijuana has affected your memory.