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Old 10-17-2011, 11:57 AM   #1
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Default Fire Brian Xanders

How much value have the Broncos lost since Xanders became GM?

1. Cutler trade:
Give:Jay Cutler and 2009 5th round pick (Johny Knox) to Chicago Bears
Get: Kyle Orton, 2009 1st round pick (Robert Ayers), 2009 3rd round pick (Mike Wallace), and 2010 1st round pick

2. Alphonso Smith draft trade:
Give: 2010 1st round pick to Seattle Seahawks (#14 pick Earl Thomas), Iupati and Pouncey still on the board
Get: 2009 2nd round pick (Alphonso Smith)

3. Trade for Richard Quinn:
Give: Broncos traded two 2009 3rd round picks (Mike Wallace, Kraig Urbik) to Pittsburgh Steelers
Get: 2nd round pick (Richard Quinn), and a 4th round pick (Seth Olson)

4. Brandon Marshall trade.
Give: Brandon Marshall to the Miami Dolphins
Get: 2010 2nd round pick (Sergio Kindle), 2011 2nd round pick (Orlando Franklin)

5. Hillis trade:
Give: Peyton Hillis, 2011 6th round draft pick
Get: Brady Quinn

6. Trading down in 2010 1st round for Demaryius Thomas:
Give: #11 overall (Anthony Davis OT) to Chicago (SF)
Get: #13 overall and 4th round pick (Aaron Hernandez TE)
Give: #13 overall (Brandon Graham DE) to Eagles
Get: #24 overall and two 2010 3rd round picks (Eric Decker, and trade to Ravens)
Give: #24 overall (Dez Bryant), and 4th round pick (Aaron Hernandez) to NE
Get: #22 overall (Demaryius Thomas)

7. Trading up in 2010 1st round for Tim Tebow:
Give: 2010 2nd round pick (Sergio Kindle), 2010 3rd round pick (Ed *****on), and 4th round pick (Dennis Pitta).
Get: #25 Tim Tebow

8. Trading away Alphonso Smith:
Give: 2009 2nd round pick (Alphonso Smith) to Lions
Get: 2009 7th round pick (Dan Gronkowski)

9. Lawrence Maroney trade:
Give: 2011 4th round pick to NE
Get: Lawrence Maroney and 2011 6th round pick

10. Jabar Gaffney trade:
Give: Jabar Gaffney to Redskins
Get: Jereny Jarmon (cut)

11. Brandon Lloyd trade:
Give: Brandon Lloyd
Get: 2012 6th round pick (conditional)

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Old 10-17-2011, 12:00 PM   #2
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:00 PM   #3
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Your first statement isn't true.

Edit: Thanks for fixing it.

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Old 10-17-2011, 12:02 PM   #4
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Can we get a real GM that doesn't answer to Elway or Fox in the process? If so, then I fully support this. I don't hate all those moves to be honest, but we really need someone who knows how to build a team running the show here. And we clearly don't have that.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:09 PM   #5
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Then who gets the pizza?

It would be a disaster.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:13 PM   #6
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Fire him and Ellis. The Broncos have gone down hill since these two showed up. We don't have to figure out whos fault it is if we just fire everyone that was on staff before this offseason.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:18 PM   #7
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Can we get a real GM that doesn't answer to Elway or Fox in the process? If so, then I fully support this. I don't hate all those moves to be honest, but we really need someone who knows how to build a team running the show here. And we clearly don't have that.
Not possible, if the GM doesn't answer to Elway then Elway has no function on the team. If that's what you want you need to can Elway also.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:19 PM   #8
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Not possible, if the GM doesn't answer to Elway then Elway has no function on the team. If that's what you want you need to can Elway also.
I'm fine with this. Or he can keep a position as a powerless figurehead. Either would work for me.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:19 PM   #9
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Fire them all who needs leadership
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:20 PM   #10
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Not sure if all your trade details are correct. Didn't we get two second rounders for Marshall? Also wasn't there a pick involved in the Hillis trade also?

Also isn't it fairly common knowledge that McDaniels had the primary say in most of this? Certainly the players we drafted with the picks acquired.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:28 PM   #11
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lol @ the Lloyd trade being the last straw in firing Xanders/Elway.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:30 PM   #12
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lol @ the Lloyd trade being the last straw in firing Xanders/Elway.
This wasn't my last straw. Five games of Orton starting to begin the season was my last straw. I have zero faith in EFX at this point. Zero.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:32 PM   #13
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:33 PM   #14
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lol @ the Lloyd trade being the last straw in firing Xanders/Elway.
You are the first person to mention Elway being fired. There have been multiple threads dedicated to firing Xanders over the past year+.

You are making up drama, while proving you can't read...

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Old 10-17-2011, 12:33 PM   #15
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It's well known McD had the final say on all the **** that went on while he was here.

As for Lloyd, he was gone after the year anyway and we're not making the playoffs.

We're getting a pick next year now instead of waiting for two years. W/E
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:35 PM   #16
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:42 PM   #17
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It's well known McD had the final say on all the **** that went on while he was here.
Not necessarily. Particularly with the Jay Cutler saga, that was purely Pat Bowlen's move. They had an ongoing feud before McD showed up.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:43 PM   #18
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Does he even do anything other than order pizza or crunch the occasional number?
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:00 PM   #20
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He answers to Bowlen, who seems to have been doing this type of crap before Xanders ever came on the scene.

Starting with Sundquist in 2008.

But, whatever.
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He answers to Bowlen, who seems to have been doing this type of crap before Xanders ever came on the scene.

Starting with Sundquist in 2008.

But, whatever.
How is Sundquist even close to the same as these trades? Who exactly gets better value from firing a GM? Why are you defending a guy that was so horrible with personnel? We had two of tye leagues best drafts in the three years after Sundquist was fired... I shouldn't even have to say what was happening before he was fired...
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:05 PM   #22
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Not sure if all your trade details are correct. Didn't we get two second rounders for Marshall? Also wasn't there a pick involved in the Hillis trade also?

Also isn't it fairly common knowledge that McDaniels had the primary say in most of this? Certainly the players we drafted with the picks acquired.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:19 PM   #23
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You are the first person to mention Elway being fired. There have been multiple threads dedicated to firing Xanders over the past year+.

You are making up drama, while proving you can't read...
Considering a few posts up, someone said they were ok with Elway being fired or being a powerless figurehead, I would suggest it is you that needs to read.

And me, responding to a thread of people overreacting and creating drama over essentially nothing, is me making up drama?

Ok.
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Considering a few posts up, someone said they were ok with Elway being fired or being a powerless figurehead, I would suggest it is you that needs to read.

And me, responding to a thread of people overreacting and creating drama over essentially nothing, is me making up drama?

Ok.
No one has claimed that Elway needs to be fired. You are making up drama, or just can't read...

Over reacting? We have gone from respectable to the worst season in franchise history, with Xanders as GM... What would you say it takes to get fired in the NFL?

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Old 10-17-2011, 01:25 PM   #25
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Considering a few posts up, someone said they were ok with Elway being fired or being a powerless figurehead, I would suggest it is you that needs to read.

And me, responding to a thread of people overreacting and creating drama over essentially nothing, is me making up drama?

Ok.
Are there people who wouldn't prefer that if it was part of the price to get a real GM who actually knew how to build a team? Really?
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