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Old 10-12-2011, 03:26 PM   #1
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:30 PM   #2
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Sorry! I hope Tebow doesn't win one game, that way we can draft a real franchise QB next year and get this franchise back on the right track!!
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:33 PM   #3
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:36 PM   #4
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is there not a better thread for this comment?

I know its probably too much to ask, but it would be really great for a thread to not devolve into "Tebow sucks" or "Tebow rulez".

Just once.
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I think it's horrible they say they "hope" he can help them win. Why not say "we believe Tim will do great things as our starting QB".

Since he gets basically 0 support from the media I would hope he can get some from the team. I mean c'mon, they supported Orton.
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Yeah, these guys need to convey a message of confidence, commitment, but also expectation regarding Tebow.

What Fox should say: We know Tebow has the talent and football mind to be successful and we want to see--in these next 11 weeks--a translation of those things to the field. We expect him to develop and improve weekly and we plan to give him every advantage we can with respect to the offense so that he does.

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I think it's horrible they say they "hope" he can help them win. Why not say "we believe Tim will do great things as our starting QB".

Since he gets basically 0 support from the media I would hope he can get some from the team. I mean c'mon, they supported Orton.
I didn't read it that way.

I think that the team has done so poor on so many levels that they aren't under any delusions about what the team is capable of.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:58 PM   #8
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I think it's horrible they say they "hope" he can help them win. Why not say "we believe Tim will do great things as our starting QB".

Since he gets basically 0 support from the media I would hope he can get some from the team. I mean c'mon, they supported Orton.
I think it shows their own inability to adapt to Tebow's unique abilities... This is the whole reason they started Kyle over Tebow in the first place..
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I think it's horrible they say they "hope" he can help them win. Why not say "we believe Tim will do great things as our starting QB".

Since he gets basically 0 support from the media I would hope he can get some from the team. I mean c'mon, they supported Orton.
But it fit the context -- the "hope" comment came right after Goodman had just said "It's not Orton's fault, we're all at fault." He was emphasizing that the 1-4 record cannot be hung on Kyle. So he said he felt bad that Kyle was taking the fall.

Then right after that he said at the same time he's excited for Tebow, getting his shot. And in that context, he said he "hopes" they can somehow turn it around and get more wins. If he had said he believes replacing the quarterback will get more wins, it would completely undermine what he just said about Kyle not being the cause.

It's like he was saying "the losses are because we're all playing lousy, but I hope the change at quarterback can spark us all to play better."
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Just finished listening and I must've missed the "strategy". He said a lot of things while always saying nothing. Was borderline Shanahan presser, imo.
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But it fit the context -- the "hope" comment came right after Goodman had just said "It's not Orton's fault, we're all at fault." He was emphasizing that the 1-4 record cannot be hung on Kyle. So he said he felt bad that Kyle was taking the fall.

Then right after that he said at the same time he's excited for Tebow, getting his shot. And in that context, he said he "hopes" they can somehow turn it around and get more wins. If he had said he believes replacing the quarterback will get more wins, it would completely undermine what he just said about Kyle not being the cause.

It's like he was saying "the losses are because we're all playing lousy, but I hope the change at quarterback can spark us all to play better."
Goodman should have talked about how he let the team down on that third down that led to the FG that put the game practically out of reach late in the fourth.
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I think it's horrible they say they "hope" he can help them win. Why not say "we believe Tim will do great things as our starting QB".

Since he gets basically 0 support from the media I would hope he can get some from the team. I mean c'mon, they supported Orton.
Maybe because they do not?
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But it fit the context -- the "hope" comment came right after Goodman had just said "It's not Orton's fault, we're all at fault." He was emphasizing that the 1-4 record cannot be hung on Kyle. So he said he felt bad that Kyle was taking the fall.

Then right after that he said at the same time he's excited for Tebow, getting his shot. And in that context, he said he "hopes" they can somehow turn it around and get more wins. If he had said he believes replacing the quarterback will get more wins, it would completely undermine what he just said about Kyle not being the cause.

It's like he was saying "the losses are because we're all playing lousy, but I hope the change at quarterback can spark us all to play better."

I guess I am looking at it in "context" of the entire situation. It just seems they could be a little more supportive.
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Goodman should have talked about how he let the team down on that third down that led to the FG that put the game practically out of reach late in the fourth.
No way that was one of the best passes I've ever seen at mile high. From my vantage point in the North end zon it looked like Rivers just threw the ball away way but he knew exactly where to throw it long before Floyd even decided to come out of his break. Sometimes the other guy is just better. On that play Rivers was just better.
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No way that was one of the best passes I've ever seen at mile high. From my vantage point in the North end zon it looked like Rivers just threw the ball away way but he knew exactly where to throw it long before Floyd even decided to come out of his break. Sometimes the other guy is just better. On that play Rivers was just better.
It was a great throw. No doubt. Very deflating as a Bronco fan because it broke our momentum.
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It was a great throw. No doubt. Very deflating as a Bronco fan because it broke our momentum.
I agree. I knew if we got the ball back with 3 and change left we were going to win. After two really bad passes he pulls that out of his ass

Rivers is like 11-2 against Denver.
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I agree. I knew if we got the ball back with 3 and change left we were going to win. After two really bad passes he pulls that out of his ass

Rivers is like 11-2 against Denver.
This is a part of the reason I'm excited to watch Tebow. He's going to make mistakes and look downright terrible at times, but he's got the ability to make plays that demoralize a defense. In short he has the ability to overcome mistakes.

With Orton I always felt like that we were doomed as soon as something went wrong because he just doesn't have the ability to make a big play at any time. If he stayed on schedule and in rhythm things were sometimes ok, but as soon as there was a bump in the road, it was like "uh oh".
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If everyone will play with the passion that was theirs in the second half...Suck for Luck won't even be close to needed.
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If everyone will play with the passion that was theirs in the second half...Suck for Luck won't even be close to needed.
The thing about Tebow is that he has the potential to mean far more to a franchise than Luck does if he can win games in the NFL.
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I guess I am looking at it in "context" of the entire situation. It just seems they could be a little more supportive.
More supportive than making him the starter?

Jesus, at some ****ing point he's going to have to go out there and perform. I think he can. I hope he does. None of that has any bearing on whether or not he will.

Christ almighty. Not everything is "undermining" Tebow. Just let the kid play.
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Tebow is always going to be murder to stop in the 4th quarter. He has world class stamina (like Lance Armstrong level), so he can keep it up for 60 minutes.

Put him back in shotgun in a 2 minute offense, and he can just constantly look to throw, or take off and get 10+ yards. Most guys get tired. He doesn't because of his training regimen and genetic talent.

It means you have a puncher's chance in every game, because it will always end with a wild ride if the Broncos are behind.
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This is a part of the reason I'm excited to watch Tebow. He's going to make mistakes and look downright terrible at times, but he's got the ability to make plays that demoralize a defense. In short he has the ability to overcome mistakes.

With Orton I always felt like that we were doomed as soon as something went wrong because he just doesn't have the ability to make a big play at any time. If he stayed on schedule and in rhythm things were sometimes ok, but as soon as there was a bump in the road, it was like "uh oh".
I agree. Its a totally different feel with Tebow out there.

When the offensive calls are good and Tebow is getting to mix up the run and the pass, you feel like the Broncos can move the ball up and down the field pretty consistently.

I'm really interested to see what the offense looks like now that Tebow gets to practice with the ones. I imagine that about 5 weeks or so down the line, once players and coaches start getting into the flow of the new QB, that we'll really see some special moments. McCoy will have a good base knowledge of how to use Tebow to take advantage of defensive adjustments and it will put the opposition in some pickles.

Tebow throws such a great deep ball. Its going to be fun watching Demaryius run the fly while Decker, Lloyd, and Royal work the short and intermediate routes. Teebs in the shotgun with 4-wide and 1-tight will be fun to watch.

Its great to be excited to be a Broncos fan again.
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Tebow is always going to be murder to stop in the 4th quarter. He has world class stamina (like Lance Armstrong level), so he can keep it up for 60 minutes.

Put him back in shotgun in a 2 minute offense, and he can just constantly look to throw, or take off and get 10+ yards. Most guys get tired. He doesn't because of his training regimen and genetic talent.

It means you have a puncher's chance in every game, because it will always end with a wild ride if the Broncos are behind.


Don't know why, but this seems to remind me of some other guy......7
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