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Old 10-09-2011, 01:43 PM   #1
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I'm curious how those on the forum would view a trade such as this.

If you could trade Brandon Lloyd to a team like St. Louis (knows their system and they need a WR badly) before the deadline do you do it?..or is this utter insanity and a guy we need to lockup long term after this season.

With a healthy Royal and both Thomas' back *knock on wood,* that would give us Thomas/Decker/Royal as our WR core, plus Willis and the ability to use Julius as a WR in certain packages. We also have a potentially promising WR in Riley on our practice squad.

We get a 2nd round pick for this trade btw. If you'd take it for a 3rd or something else, say so as well.

Personally I trade him for a 2nd if possible. He makes some amazing catches, but he's getting older, is kind of a diva, will demand a sizable salary and we have a lot of youth waiting on the wing.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:44 PM   #2
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For a 2nd, yes. 3Rd, no.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:45 PM   #4
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hells yes, and he'd love that trade too as itd get him back in missouri where he's from
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:46 PM   #5
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For a 1st to a desperate team
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:46 PM   #6
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Hell to the f*** NO!!!
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:49 PM   #9
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Although I love Royal, he has done nothing since his rookie year.. I also like Julius Thomas but he is unproven (I think that's a word).. and although D. Thomas has all the talent in the world, he has yet to be able to stay healthy.. a healthy Decker and Lloyd is one of the best duo's in the league imo
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Only if the compensation is right and you know you cannot work out a long-term deal. Keep in mind that Eddie Royal is a free agent at the end of the year.
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Thomas and Royal can't be counted on period.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:51 PM   #12
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Thomas/Royal/Decker


sounds like a great sammich
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Although I love Royal, he has done nothing since his rookie year.. I also like Julius Thomas but he is unproven (I think that's a word).. and although D. Thomas has all the talent in the world, he has yet to be able to stay healthy.. a healthy Decker and Lloyd is one of the best duo's in the league imo
^this.

Seriously, haven't we seen enough trading the talent out of town for draft picks for a lifetime?
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Hopefully Lloyd has a 150yd 2TD day and this thread gets bumped more than Keith Richards on a bad weekend.
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I'd trade him for a 4th. It would be a huge mistake to give him a big long term deal and that is what he's going to need this off-season. Having him this year isn't going to suddenly make us a title contender.

Lloyd likely isn't a positive piece to this team's short term rebuild and he definitely isn't a long term piece. We won't trade him but by not doing so its the equivalent of a farmer letting his crops rot in the barn rather than sell them. Its idiocy.
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Depends.

If the team doesn't want to sign him long term then yes, I'd do it. We're not going anywhere this year and need picks to rebuild for the future so any extra picks would be great for the draft next year.

Hopefully D Thomas will be back after the bye, Decker looks a legit starter and Royal shouldn't be given up on yet. So we do have depth at receiver, and they're all young guys who'll benefit from getting more reps.

I'd do it...
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I'd trade him for a 4th. It would be a huge mistake to give him a big long term deal and that is what he's going to need this off-season. Having him this year isn't going to suddenly make us a title contender.

Lloyd likely isn't a positive piece to this team's short term rebuild and he definitely isn't a long term piece. We won't trade him but by not doing so its the equivalent of a farmer letting his crops rot in the barn rather than sell them. Its idiocy.
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Hopefully Lloyd has a 150yd 2TD day and this thread gets bumped more than Keith Richards on a bad weekend.
Which would be a perfect opportunity to sell high.

Do you want to give Brandon Lloyd $8M a year with probably nothing less than $15M guaranteed?

Is that really good allocation of our resources?

Will a team that balked at $5M per for Brandon Mebane, a proven DT who was only 26 years old and high on their FA targets list, actually even pony that up?

I'd say the answer to all three questions is a resounding "no". So why sit on a valuable commodity and just watch it expire?
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I'd trade him for a 4th. It would be a huge mistake to give him a big long term deal and that is what he's going to need this off-season. Having him this year isn't going to suddenly make us a title contender.

Lloyd likely isn't a positive piece to this team's short term rebuild and he definitely isn't a long term piece. We won't trade him but by not doing so its the equivalent of a farmer letting his crops rot in the barn rather than sell them. Its idiocy.
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Only if the compensation is right and you know you cannot work out a long-term deal. Keep in mind that Eddie Royal is a free agent at the end of the year.
What this bloke said.
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:00 PM   #21
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Which would be a perfect opportunity to sell high.

Do you want to give Brandon Lloyd $8M a year with probably nothing less than $15M guaranteed?

Is that really good allocation of our resources?

Will a team that balked at $5M per for Brandon Mebane, a proven DT who was only 26 years old and high on their FA targets list, actually even pony that up?

I'd say the answer to all three questions is a resounding "no". So why sit on a valuable commodity and just watch it expire?
So you think going into the offseason with Decker and Thomas as are two best signed WRs is the best idea for this team moving forward? WR isn't a problem area for this team and all of the sudden you want to make it one for a 4th round draft pick .
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:01 PM   #22
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With dthomas injured and royal far from his rookie season nope.
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I think the answer depends on replacing his numbers. How do you do that? Decker is coming on but he won't be able to do it by himself. Royal has been wildly inconsistent. D. Thomas can't stay on the field.

Then we are talking about taking a WR with a 1st or 2nd round pick, which should be used on the defensive side of the ball.

They need to pony up the money for a few years until his numbers drop or we have the depth to make that move. Otherwise they need to keep him in Denver.
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:02 PM   #24
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Absolutely I would, but teams don't do that like they do in baseball.

He's not signed for next year. Get value if you can.
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:03 PM   #25
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