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View Poll Results: Whats your plan for Tim Tebow?
Hes going nowhere fast, trade him now while he still has value 15 34.09%
Hes started slow, but I have every confidence he will be a good QB 16 36.36%
Lets just keep treading water , see where it gets us 4 9.09%
Sorry Buff, TLDNR 9 20.45%
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:41 PM   #1
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Just did a bit of research with depressing results. Get this: Going back 6 years, all but two QBs drafted in Round 1 started most or all his rookie season (research below).

Rookie Tim was given a measly 3 starts on a 4-12 team in full-on self destruct mode. It doesn't look any better in Year 2 under new management. Admittedly, John Fox tried IT once, but IT didn't work. It's not that Tebow "isn't ready yet," because every 1st rounder has been "ready." The problem is he's never gonna be ready in their eyes.

Them's the facts folks. Tim has fallen decidedly behind the standard young QB curve, with no relief in sight. Silver lining is one of the Florida teams, probably the Jaguars, would jump at the chance to trade for him. Gabbert's still unproven, McCown sucks, and they're losing $$$ fast.

I say trade him NOW, and start fresh in the 2012 draft. Might not get Andrew Luck, but Landry Jones is fan-freaking-tastic, a can't miss pro.



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RULE: Last 6 years, 1st Round QBs have started most or all their rookie seasons: Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert so far, Sam Bradford, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman, Jamarcus Russell, Vince Young, Jay Cutler, even Matt Leinart started 11 as a rookie. Two guys drafted after Tebow last year started most of their rookie seasons, Colt McCoy and Jimmy Claussen.

Other than current rookies Locker and Ponder, the ONLY TWO EXCEPTIONS to the 1st rounders starting most their rookie seasons: Tim Tebow and ... wait for it ... Brady Quinn. *SIGH*
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:50 PM   #3
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:52 PM   #4
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How about we let him ****ing play and see what he can do?
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No.

We're not going to let the FO/staff off the hook that easily. It's clear Tebow isn't "their man". I thought we were supposed to be learning from this whole McD "I gotta get my guy" type of thing. No....they're going to work with Tebow because they're allegedly professionals. We don't give a **** whether you're comfortable with him or whether he's your guy. They've treated him shabbily from the word go and repeated that again, today. And now you want to reward the staff for this behavior by allowing them to let Tebow go? No. Tebow's going to stay there, in the background, putting pressure on the staff in unspoken ways and creating awkwardness. They've acted like a-holes this whole time...and now somebody's gotta pay. Tebow's going nowhere.

If Tebow has fallen behind the curve...that's the staff's fault. Instead of not giving him reps at practice and basically forcing him to volunteer to do other stuff (as has been reported), why don't you give him reps to get him up to speed? The staff has completely mismanaged this from the very beginning. Don't let them off the hook. They WILL work with Tebow and develop him. The fanbase needs to keep the pressure up. Force them to crack, bring them to their knees. They are already cracking. Keep it going.
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Steve Young. Aaron Rogers.

Tebow has already played more than either of them to open their careres.
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Of course, the QBs you are conveniently eliding over in your "analysis" are Aaron Rodgers and Philip Rivers. They ain't bad.
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Steve Young. Aaron Rogers.

Tebow has already played more than either of them to open their careres.
So you're telling me Kyle Orton is going to the Hall of Fame?
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Went back just six years guys.

Allow me to point out Rodgers and Rivers sat behind a Hall-of-Famer and likely Hall-of-Famer.
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Steve Young. Aaron Rogers.

Tebow has already played more than either of them to open their careres.
Yeah, but Young was backing up Joe Montana, and Rogers backing up Brett Favre, I can see why they couldn't break into the starting line-up.

What we're talking here is completely different, we're talking Tebow backing up Kyle "mother****in'" Orton.
You're comparing apples to oranges...
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Went back just six years guys.

Allow me to point out Rodgers and Rivers sat behind a Hall-of-Famer and likely Hall-of-Famer.
The name "Steve DeBerg" should ring some bells.
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Yeah, but Young was backing up Joe Montana, and Rogers backing up Brett Favre, I can see why they couldn't break into the starting line-up.

What we're talking here is completely different, we're talking Tebow backing up Kyle "mother****in'" Orton.
You're comparing apples to oranges...
Tebow has already played, and he played very well.

Tebow is ready to roll.

Meanwhile our front office is pondering the wonders of magnets and the mystery of how they work.
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The name "Steve DeBerg" should ring some bells.
You mean John? He "sat behind" DeBerg for maybe six games.
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I would trade him, but not yet. Lets see where Denver picks in the draft. If Denver gets the #1 pick or can acquire the #1 via trade to select Andrew Luck, then yes trade him.
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You mean John? He "sat behind" DeBerg for maybe six games.
Tebow sat behind Orton for 13, and now another 4. Odds are fairly decent that Tebow will only sit another game.
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Went back just six years guys.

Allow me to point out Rodgers and Rivers sat behind a Hall-of-Famer and likely Hall-of-Famer.
Kyle Orton and John Fox seem to think Kyle Orton is a Hall of famer...

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Should point out that Josh didn't start Tebow even once, despite his dismal 3-9 record when fired.
I get the impression Josh didn't play Tebow because he was protecting Tebow from the team. Elway said something to that affect recently too. But I think Fox may be using that as an excuse because he loves Orton's game so much..

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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. We need Tebow's athleticism and work ethic. I just don't know if quarterback is a suitable position for him. No offense to Spencer Larsen, but make Tebow a fullback. He could be Denver's most dominant fullback since Howard Griffith. I'm very serious...
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PLEASE don't get so Luck-obsessed that anything less is a disappointment. Landry Jones is the real deal, projected mid-high first rounder. Size, smarts, arm strength, accuracy ... plus he's cool under fire and plays through injuries. Stepped right in for Bradford, with barely a blip.
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Tebow should be playing the entire season. I'm very skeptical of Tebow, but I can see he should be given a chance. Should've been starting since the 1st day of practice. Trade him now? For what? You hold onto him going into the draft. I've been skeptical of Bradford as I am JOnes.

There is a real gem of a QB entering next April. Do what you have to do John to make it happen. Tebow isn't your guy, so go get your own.
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Tebow should play. Logically, with a team in rebuild mode you want guys who will be here beyond a year that you can grow a program with.

However, in Denver we rebuild with pocket sloths. I would also be concerned for any rookie player coming in with a vet ahead of him. The rookie could be an all-pro, but the vet would probably still get the start. Just the vibe I get from the coaching staff.

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Should point out Josh didn't start Tebow either. Not even once, despite his dismal 3-9 record when fired.

And please don't get so Luck-obsessed that anything less is a disappointment. Landry Jones is the real deal. Size, smarts, arm strength, accuracy ... plus he's cool under fire and plays through injuries. Stepped right in for Bradford, with barely a blip.
I'm a huge OU fan and have been since I moved there as a child in 1981. Watch every OU game every season. Landry is a good player with alot of promise, but I'm not sure I'd want him here over Tebow. There is still some hesitancy to his game, and he's not close to as good a player as Bradford was. Landry is a lot like Troy Aikman. A pure passer with a pretty good arm who can make all of the throws, but he doesn't have the wow factor that the great pro prospects have.
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I'm a huge OU fan and have been since I moved there as a child in 1981. Watch every OU game every season. Landry is a good player with alot of promise, but I'm not sure I'd want him here over Tebow. There is still some hesitancy to his game, and he's not close to as good a player as Bradford was. Landry is a lot like Troy Aikman. A pure passer with a pretty good arm who can make all of the throws, but he doesn't have the wow factor that the great pro prospects have.
I go back a few years with Landry ... you probably recall he took Oklahoma and Colorado down to the wire before signing out of high school. The Artesia NM high school football program is very impressive, I watched a couple of his games online.

Somebody transferred out late from OU, so Jones unexpectedly jumped to #2 on the depth chart entering '09 as a RS Freshman. Of course Bradford went down in Week 1, so there he was, a starter in just his 2nd game in uniform. Made some mistakes no doubt, but that kid has some brass ones, he came out firing, 40 - 50 passes a game, all over the yard. Gotta love that.
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