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Old 09-29-2011, 08:35 AM   #1
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In the upstairs offices from within the stucco-covered concrete walls, there is just one option at quarterback: Win with Orton as the starter. Elway doesn't pretend to deny he and general manager Brian Xanders and Fox have never discussed the quarterback situation. They talk about their cornerbacks, receivers and linemen. Why wouldn't they talk about their quarterbacks?

"But this is John Fox's team," Elway said. "In my position, everyone has responsibilities, and I'm not going to interfere with John Fox and what he wants to do with this football team. If I can help with different ideas, I'm going to give those. But I don't want to be in there meddling."

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Looks like the Duke of Denver getting a head start on Xanders and Fox with the CYA game. Subtlely supportive yet with a heavy "It's his fault!" aftertaste.

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Old 09-29-2011, 08:35 AM   #2
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He did try to trade Orton.
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It is probably good that Elway distances himself from such obviously poor decisions. I know I have been turning on Fox because of them. I'm sure it won't be long before most fans do the same.
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Soooooooooooo the title is supposed to say "The Blame Game" I'll try to change it AGAIN
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he pities TheElusiveKyleOrton.

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The only reason he isn't meddling is because he knows John Fox's decision to stay with Orton will lead him to drafting Andrew Luck.
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:04 AM   #10
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The tide is shifting, Elway is now distancing himself from the issue whereas 3 weeks ago he was mocking us with tweets.

Woody's Mailbag: Broncos fans growing bored, apathetic

Paige: Kyle Orton's not the answer

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3. If Tebow excels in his second audition, he's their quarterback for 2012. That way, the Broncos can use their first-round draft pick on a defensive tackle or cornerback.

4. Lastly, if the Broncos don't win with either Orton or Tebow, they can draft USC's Matt Barkley next year or Oklahoma's Landry Jones, if he comes out early. It's improbable the Broncos will stink enough to select Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck, the almost-certain No. 1 pick.
These arguments are no arguments made by people from Florida - bandwagoners - or people with "Tewbowners" as the few Orton supporters/irrational Tebow haters think, it is rational fact.

Orton and Quinn are gone after the year - plan for the future, this team is NOT making the playoffs.
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IF Tebow works out and we do not need a QB next year, imagine a defensive draft with a maybe a Center thrown in.

1. DT
2. CB
3. RB/Center

a couple of more studs on D we can be a top ten easily.
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"I think we're getting close," Orton said. "We would have liked to have scored more than 17 points against Tennessee, but I think we've taken a lot of positives away. We're a lot better third-down football team. I think in the red zone, we're getting better. Minus the goal line stand, we were 2-for-2. So, we're improving. Now it's just getting the sense of urgency and getting everybody to do it right, and then I think you'll start seeing 35 points on the board rather than 23."

Hey, minus one loss, were are 1-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

23? Nope Kyle you scored 17. 23 would have been a win as it was against Cicny (24 actually).
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Didn't we score 14?
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correct 14, even better.
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You think Orton would really love his play so much if he actually lived in reality?
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The 2 for 2 statement is like saying. Hey if I didn't suck, I would be good. Right?

Oh well, at least I have hunting season on the way.
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If Fox is actually making the decision, Orton's his guy. Fox's defense made it possible for a schlub like Delhomme to start for Carolina.

The BIG difference is that Denver fans are used to having a good QB. Carolina didn't know what one of those even looked like. Bronco fans can pressure Fox to start Tebow, because he won't blame the fans for shouting Tebow, he's too new in Denver. He'll fold if we push him.
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im glad hes improving in the red zone and third downs. good for him. now if we can work on him literally not handing the game over by turnovers and generally not sucking the life and soul out of denver broncos football by killing any or all momentum he may be a decent qb. baby steps.
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The 2 for 2 statement is like saying. Hey if I didn't suck, I would be good. Right?
Was just thinking this.

It is inspiring, isn't it? I'm sure the team, particularly the defense, loves to hear those statements.
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im glad hes improving in the red zone and third downs. good for him. now if we can work on him literally not handing the game over by turnovers and generally not sucking the life and soul out of denver broncos football by killing any or all momentum he may be a decent qb. baby steps.
He's just giving what the defense takes him.... er wait.?....
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The problem is Fox is still under the false impression the team can win this year. Going 1-2 sealed this team's fate. Not because teams haven't climbed out of that type of hole before but because these were three of the more winnable games on the schedule. When the team goes into the bye 1-4 it will be interesting to see what happens. At this point though Fox can hang his hat on the fact that his team was in the game against 3 teams that likely won't make the playoffs. If the team can hang in there against GB and SD that point might be a little more valid, but even still the road points to a 1-4 record regardless.

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I don't really see a big deal with Elway's comments and would not read too much into them. He's just affirming that there is a delegation of responsibilities. Hell, that is what we wanted here in Denver, a Front office that was independent of the Head Coach. Well, in those situations, the two doen't always see eye to eye. But the Front office is the ultimate authority on player acquisition, and the Head Coach is the ultimate authority on player management. We knew that this team was a two year project minimum to be competitive.
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I don't really see a big deal with Elway's comments and would not read too much into them. He's just affirming that there is a delegation of responsibilities. Hell, that is what we wanted here in Denver, a Front office that was independent of the Head Coach. Well, in those situations, the two doen't always see eye to eye. But the Front office is the ultimate authority on player acquisition, and the Head Coach is the ultimate authority on player management. We knew that this team was a two year project minimum to be competitive.
It's not a BIG deal, but it's very revealing.

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the only positive that comes out of losses is to watch the same crew of squealing pigs stroke each other in every front page thread
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