Broncos O-Line grades by Pro Football Spotlight - The Orange Mane

Houshyamama · 09-27-2011, 10:56 AM

Please delete if this is a repost, didn't see it anywhere.

http://profootballspotlight.com/bron...ing-oline-film

If you were a fan that was so upset on Sunday you couldn't hardly watch the game, then you probably missed Cris Kuper and Orlando Franklin drive a defender 5 yards down field about 6 times. Maybe you missed Ryan Clady drive a defender to the ground at 1:19 in the 3rd and then Zane Beadles jump on him to let him know he just got handled.

If you missed all that then you just might have missed THE game. The game in the trenches.

Let's take a look at those grades...

epicSocialism4tw · 09-27-2011, 11:07 AM

Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

I have been talking about these guys alot here recently because they haven't been nearly as bad as people are suggesting.

By the end of the season, they'll be in synch and the Broncos will have good OL play in both phases of the offense.

schaaf · 09-27-2011, 11:22 AM

If Knowshon would have Been able to play these last two weeks our rushing game would have been VERY good. Mcgahee never hit the hole hard once on sunday

OABB · 09-27-2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schaaf

If Knowshon would have Been able to play these last two weeks our rushing game would have been VERY good. Mcgahee never hit the hole hard once on sunday

agreed..

vancejohnson82 · 09-27-2011, 11:34 AM

its sad that I thought we picked up McGahee for that one reason....to knock through the hole and get those tough 2-3 yards

TheReverend · 09-27-2011, 11:37 AM

2.6 yards per carry

/thread

bronco militia · 09-27-2011, 11:48 AM

knowsho would have done better?

that's rich!

i4jelway7 · 09-27-2011, 11:53 AM

Walton gets blown off the ball

epicSocialism4tw · 09-27-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vancejohnson82

its sad that I thought we picked up McGahee for that one reason....to knock through the hole and get those tough 2-3 yards

He does that.

He just doesn't get the 15, 20, 30 yarder, etc.

There really isn't a good full time back on the roster. I think that we got McGahee for 10-15 carries per game.

When Moreno came out, he looked like a quick back with good vision. He really hasn't proven to have either of those attributes with Denver.

I used to think that the team needed serious upgrades all over the OL, but after watching each play of the first two weeks in review, it was apparent that we created some holes at the LOS...not so much at the second level, but there were holes at the LOS. I think that the blocking at the second level will come as the OL gets more reps and learns to play with one another in this system.

Clady is almost fully returned to form, Kuper is very consistent, and the young trio is improving every week.

There is reason to expect them to grow as a unit over the course of the season, and to maybe be able to get those tough short yardage plays with more regularity.

epicSocialism4tw · 09-27-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by i4jelway7

Walton gets blown off the ball

He doesn't really get blown off the ball anymore. At least that's not something that has been happening with regularity. Not to the point where you would use a statement like that to describe general trends in his play.

Simple Jake · 09-27-2011, 12:01 PM

I like that our oline has a hit you in the mouth attitude like that.. I think this young line has a bright future.. not sure about walton though

Ray Finkle · 09-27-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by i4jelway7

Walton gets blown off the ball

I haven't seen that nearly as much as last year. It's a young line, they like getting nasty and have a chance to improve.

Kaylore · 09-27-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Jake

I like that our oline has a hit you in the mouth attitude like that.. I think this young line has a bright future.. not sure about walton though

I agree on all points. I think adding some more talent if for no other reason than competition would be a huge plus. However adding some more speed at the running back position and a QB that can move at the level of a forty year old human and make the safeties give a crap about what happens more than twelves yards down field from the line of scrimmage would make this line look way, way better.

Schism · 09-27-2011, 12:08 PM

"Kuper then shoves him to the ground and falls on him and starts giving him the business."

Over under on how many times Kaylore read this sentence?

Simple Jake · 09-27-2011, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I agree on all points. I think adding some more talent if for no other reason than competition would be a huge plus. However adding some more speed at the running back position and a QB that can move at the level of a forty year old human and make the safeties give a crap about what happens more than twelves yards down field from the line of scrimmage would make this line look way, way better.

I would be pleased if denver went for the best running back in the draft in the first round.. having a good running game would do wonders for this team

Houshyamama · 09-27-2011, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schism

"Kuper then shoves him to the ground and falls on him and starts giving him the business."

Over under on how many times Kaylore read this sentence?

Ray Finkle · 09-27-2011, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schism

"Kuper then shoves him to the ground and falls on him and starts giving him the business."

Over under on how many times Kaylore read this sentence?

it's tattooed over his heart.

Gort · 09-27-2011, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schism

"Kuper then shoves him to the ground and falls on him and starts giving him the business."

Over under on how many times Kaylore read this sentence?

it'd be nice to hear KupesDad tell us what was really going on that made Kuper mad enough to do that.

enjolras · 09-27-2011, 12:30 PM

Question: Clearly this team has had an issue with balls being swatted away by defensive linemen. How much of that responsibility lies on the offensive line? How much on the Quarterback (identifying passing lanes). How much on the receivers (running the right route to get open in the passing lanes)?

Is it scheme?

I'm really not sure...

jhns · 09-27-2011, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjolras

Question: Clearly this team has had an issue with balls being swatted away by defensive linemen. How much of that responsibility lies on the offensive line? How much on the Quarterback (identifying passing lanes). How much on the receivers (running the right route to get open in the passing lanes)?

Is it scheme?

I'm really not sure...

Depends on the situation. The one I remember them replaying seemed to be on the QB. The defender was reaching pretty much straight to his left to tip it. I would think they should at least have to stretch up, and possibly jump a little, if you are throwing the ball correctly. Reaching to the side and still tipping it seems to show the QB was just throwing too low.

bowtown · 09-27-2011, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i4jelway7

Walton gets blown off the ball

Thanks for your in-depth analysis. You should write a column.

ColoradoDarin · 09-27-2011, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schism

"Kuper then shoves him to the ground and falls on him and starts giving him the business."

Over under on how many times Kaylore faps to this sentence?

Fixed.

And ewwww, I'm sorry.

ColoradoDarin · 09-27-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

He doesn't really get blown off the ball anymore. At least that's not something that has been happening with regularity. Not to the point where you would use a statement like that to describe general trends in his play.

JD was a mauler in college, missing OTA and most of the offseason to the lockout really hurt our young guys the most. He has looked much improved already, I've love to see what him, Beadles and Franklin will look like with a full off season of preparation.We need depth there, but I'm pretty optimistic about our starters.

Drek · 09-27-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Jake

I would be pleased if denver went for the best running back in the draft in the first round.. having a good running game would do wonders for this team

We did that two years ago, everyone hates him.

Inkana7 · 09-27-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drek

We did that two years ago, everyone hates him.

Haha, rep.

Walton has looked pretty solid this year, especially compared to last year. It's Beadles that looks to be the weakest part of the Line.

09-27-2011, 10:56 AM	#1
Houshyamama I Make The Weather Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,853 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brock Osweiler	Broncos O-Line grades by Pro Football Spotlight Please delete if this is a repost, didn't see it anywhere. http://profootballspotlight.com/bron...ing-oline-film If you were a fan that was so upset on Sunday you couldn't hardly watch the game, then you probably missed Cris Kuper and Orlando Franklin drive a defender 5 yards down field about 6 times. Maybe you missed Ryan Clady drive a defender to the ground at 1:19 in the 3rd and then Zane Beadles jump on him to let him know he just got handled. If you missed all that then you just might have missed THE game. The game in the trenches. Let's take a look at those grades... Last edited by Houshyamama; 09-27-2011 at 11:35 AM..

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09-27-2011, 11:07 AM	#2
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Good stuff. Thanks for posting. I have been talking about these guys alot here recently because they haven't been nearly as bad as people are suggesting. By the end of the season, they'll be in synch and the Broncos will have good OL play in both phases of the offense.

09-27-2011, 11:22 AM	#3
schaaf Bossing at its Finest No salary cap in the dope game Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montana Posts: 1,949 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	If Knowshon would have Been able to play these last two weeks our rushing game would have been VERY good. Mcgahee never hit the hole hard once on sunday

09-27-2011, 11:34 AM	#5
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,989 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	its sad that I thought we picked up McGahee for that one reason....to knock through the hole and get those tough 2-3 yards

09-27-2011, 11:37 AM	#6
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,966 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	2.6 yards per carry /thread

09-27-2011, 11:48 AM	#7
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	knowsho would have done better? that's rich!

09-27-2011, 11:53 AM	#8
i4jelway7 Ring of Famer :notworthy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,873	Walton gets blown off the ball

09-27-2011, 12:01 PM	#11
Simple Jake Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Behind you Posts: 248 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	I like that our oline has a hit you in the mouth attitude like that.. I think this young line has a bright future.. not sure about walton though

09-27-2011, 12:08 PM	#14
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	"Kuper then shoves him to the ground and falls on him and starts giving him the business." Over under on how many times Kaylore read this sentence?

09-27-2011, 12:30 PM	#19
enjolras Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,939	Question: Clearly this team has had an issue with balls being swatted away by defensive linemen. How much of that responsibility lies on the offensive line? How much on the Quarterback (identifying passing lanes). How much on the receivers (running the right route to get open in the passing lanes)? Is it scheme? I'm really not sure...