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Old 09-25-2011, 03:44 PM   #1
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I thought this was a gritty game on the road. Maybe its expectations, but I didn't even expect to be in this game. We had so many starters, playmaking starters out, that I didn't even think this was going to be close at the half.

On offense our offensive line out-played theirs. They've played better and better every year. I think we need a better guard and maybe center, but I think the pieces are there to have a great offensive line. When you consider the lack of depth at receiver and who our QB is, we actually did phenomenally.

Our defensive was outstanding. We shut down Chris Johnson and while we got beat up in the air, we made some great plays keeping good pressure and forced some turnovers.

We were physical and kept it close and had a chance to win. Again, I am not happy we lost, but I didn't expect to be this close. We're a decent QB away from fielding a competitive team.

I also remind everyone its going to take years to fix what McDaniels did and the people already questioning EFX three games into the season seem premature to me. They deserve another draft and another season to get going.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:46 PM   #2
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I don't think you're in the minority. We're obviously getting better. Anyone who has followed football closely in recent years has a lot to be optimistic about after that performance.

Last years' team would have lost control of the game after the failed 4th down conversion.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:48 PM   #3
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We won at Tennessee last year. We lost this year. How are we improving again?
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:50 PM   #4
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Khan's just happy because at the end of the first half the announcer said "Kuper just got on his back" after a play.

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Old 09-25-2011, 03:50 PM   #5
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I think Chris Johnson had an average of 2.5 ypc before this game.
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I agree. There is some improvement out there. We are stopping the run.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:53 PM   #7
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We won at Tennessee last year. We lost this year. How are we improving again?
Yeah and people were saying we improved after that game. We held Chris Johnson to 2.8 ypc. Plus Orton threw for 341 yards and 2 TDs.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:54 PM   #8
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I thought this was a gritty game on the road. Maybe its expectations, but I didn't even expect to be in this game. We had so many starters, playmaking starters out, that I didn't even think this was going to be close at the half.
Yup, and Vegas felt that way too. We were a big road dog and coulda/shoulda won.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:54 PM   #9
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Parts are getting better. The run defense is getting better. Miller is getting experience. The Oline seems to be improving at pass protection.

Parts aren't getting better. The clutch play on both sides of the ball are poor. There is no threat of a run game or a pass game from this offense. QB play continues to demoralize....
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:55 PM   #10
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I called it the same way in the game thread Kaylore.

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1. Our OL pass protection has improved every game to being very good today.
2. Our run game has improved leaps and bounds compared to last year.
3. Our defense has improved astronomically since last year.
4. Even our STs isn't a complete black hole like last year.

Except ask Orton to improve, even a little bit and here's the response:

And that's not surprising either because funadementally we're playing better football. The basics like tackling, shedding, gap responsibility, disipline on STs it's all getting better.

No doubt it helps with a simplified defense but one only has to look at the sheer amount of times our defense last year was flagged, had to call time outs because we couldn't even get 11 guys on defense.

Look at the amount of times defenders routinely sliced into the backfield stuffing the RBs for a loss last year and see how little that's happened this year.

We definitely need more talent and no where is that more clear than at QB.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:56 PM   #11
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Would be nice if we had a dynamic QB out there...but the improvement, especially on defense is obvious.

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Old 09-25-2011, 03:57 PM   #12
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The defense is getting better (wouldn't mind Bunkley being inked to an extension now) but the play calling is getting worse. That was the most uncreative game plan I've seen in a while. I'd hate to see Decker, D-Thomas, Tebow, Orange Julius waste a year learning McCoy's offense when it's clear he's a part of the problem (and may need to go). Hopefully, he grows into the job, but I liked him more when he called games for Tebow.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:58 PM   #13
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I hope you're not in the minority, although we have a very vocal element of whiny 1998 Superbowl era fans, that don't want to accept where this team is compared to the upper tier of the league from a talent standpoint.

I see improvement with Bunkley on the line. I see Von Miller getting better in run support each week. Ayers has been solid for two weeks in a row. It looks like Denver hit on two draft high draft picks in Miller and Moore. The secondary played pretty well considering no Champ, and the front 7 got OK pressure for not having Doom in the lineup. Offensively, Orton clearly isn't the answer, but 3rd down conversions were improved.

The team is moving in the right direction, the problem is a lack of physicality on the O-line, no franchise QB and injuries at skill positions.

It comes down to the fact that the front office needs another draft cycle to address the holes in the team left by the McDaniel's abortion. They need a speed back, a center that is stronger at the point of attack and a RT/G depending on whether or not they move Franklin inside eventually. They need to evaluate Tebow to determine if he has the potential to be a franchise QB, and if not they need to address it with 2012 no. 1.
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:00 PM   #14
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They need to evaluate Tebow to determine if he has the potential to be a franchise QB, and if not they need to address it with 2012 no. 1.
It keeps coming back to this, doesn't it?
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:03 PM   #15
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I hope you're not in the minority, although we have a very vocal element of whiny 1998 Superbowl era fans, that don't want to accept where this team is compared to the upper tier of the league from a talent standpoint.
You mean the fans that know what the Broncos are supposed to be? Yeah they're terrible...
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:03 PM   #16
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I hope you're not in the minority, although we have a very vocal element of whiny 1998 Superbowl era fans, that don't want to accept where this team is compared to the upper tier of the league from a talent standpoint.
I agree with this. There also seems to be people who are bigger Shanahan fans than Bronco fans.
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kyle orton still sucks, so there's that
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:07 PM   #18
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IMHO, we will be in every game. We need sone more speed on offense, we need a leader at QB whether it's Tebow or not, Mays was a huge liability in coverage today and we need Champ back, Wilhite was getting burnt
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:08 PM   #19
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We look better in ways. On D we are faster and smarter.
Fox is just so conservative sometimes but that's what we hired him for . Stability.
But Orton on 3rd down and in "The Red Zone" is so

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IMHO, we will be in every game.
Get back to me on that after we start playing playoff caliber teams.
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Talk to me after next week's game
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:11 PM   #22
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Unless we have a good QB, most of the times we lose close games.
Unfortunately, there is no moral victories in NFL.
We don't know how our team and other team's will be in next year.
Right now, this team is bore to watch and it starts with QB.
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:14 PM   #23
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:14 PM   #24
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kyle orton still sucks, so there's that
You should learn to appreciate the little things though...our shiat ass players were a little less ****ty today. Things are looking up, militia.
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:16 PM   #25
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You should learn to appreciate the little things though...our shiat ass players were a little less ****ty today. Things are looking up, militia.
It seems people forget that we lost five close games last year as well. Losing close games against meh teams doesn't show any real improvement.
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