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Old 09-25-2011, 02:00 PM   #1
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Using Tebow to sell season tickets, yet sticking with Kyle Orton, we bought tickets and are stuck with THIS?

Condescending tweets about the QB position.


John, you were a bold, exciting QB, a leader of this team, stop backing a guy who is the polar opposite of you. Make the call, make the change at the only position on the field that could change anything at this point. Soon it will be too late and this year will be lost.

Make the call John, whichever John has to make the call. Please. Being a Broncos fan at this point is just deflating.
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Soon it will be too late and this year will be lost.
Season was lost before we took a snap, even if Tebow were to start from day 1. We were never going to do anything meaningful this year. We're rebuilding.
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methinks John Elway is under the spell of an ex-Raiders cheerleader. however, she may be a robot secretly controlled by Crazy Al. shhhh! don't tell gaffney.
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Promises made about addressing the DT position that were lies.

Using Tebow to sell season tickets, yet sticking with Kyle Orton, we bought tickets and are stuck with THIS?

Condescending tweets about the QB position.


John, you were a bold, exciting QB, a leader of this team, stop backing a guy who is the polar opposite of you. Make the call, make the change at the only position on the field that could change anything at this point. Soon it will be too late and this year will be lost.

Make the call John, whichever John has to make the call. Please. Being a Broncos fan at this point is just deflating.
you speak the truth
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:04 PM   #7
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I'm expecting flack for this, but at this point, I don't care, I had more hope for the season this time last year than I do today.

If you make yourself the face of the team expect criticism when the teams sucks.
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Season was lost before we took a snap, even if Tebow were to start from day 1. We were never going to do anything meaningful this year. We're rebuilding.
Right, but if that is the case why do you play a QB who will leave in a year? Why not give the only QB whos contract runs beyond this year a shot?
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I dont see why we couldnt win now. We're actually playing pretty solid defense without three of our best defensive players on the field.
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Yep. But you're going to get the hate for saying it. Most Broncos fans can't separate their love for Elway as a player with him as a football exec.
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This team wasn't winning more than 4-5 games no matter what
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Promises made about addressing the DT position that were lies.

Using Tebow to sell season tickets, yet sticking with Kyle Orton, we bought tickets and are stuck with THIS?

Condescending tweets about the QB position.


John, you were a bold, exciting QB, a leader of this team, stop backing a guy who is the polar opposite of you. Make the call, make the change at the only position on the field that could change anything at this point. Soon it will be too late and this year will be lost.

Make the call John, whichever John has to make the call. Please. Being a Broncos fan at this point is just deflating.
Our top two free agent DT signings (Thomas & Warren) have been injured. Our #3 DT signing (Bunkley) has played well. Second straight week we've had very good run defense. Not sure why you think we didn't address the DT position.

Agree on Orton.

Overall, this team appears to be playing better than last year's team. I'm not saying they've done a brilliant job, but the worst part of the team last year was not the QB, it was the entire defense. The defense is playing much better. My hope is that they want to give Tebow more time to learn before throwing him out there. (Not agreeing on this course of action, just my best hope given what we've seen so far)
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I dont see why we couldnt win now. We're actually playing pretty solid defense without three of our best defensive players on the field.
Shhh... that doesn't count when evaluating the new staff.
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On a positive for John, I think we can all agree the draft was good.
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Season was lost before we took a snap, even if Tebow were to start from day 1. We were never going to do anything meaningful this year. We're rebuilding.
All the more reason to not start the lameduck vet that isn't under contract beyond this season. Unless they are just trying to save some money...
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I don't have a problem with the style of play. I think the coaches have done the best they can with the curent talent on the roster.

This teams needs better players
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On a positive for John, I think we can all agree the draft was good.
Von Miller appears to be good. The rest? Haven't seen anything yet to make me think they are that great. But I don't judge drafts until a couple years after the fact.
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Perhaps, but Cam Newton was going to be a major bust. Buffalo and Detroit are 3 - 0. Not everything is written in stone.
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All the more reason to not start the lameduck vet that isn't under contract beyond this season. Unless they are just trying to save some money...
Agreed. You and I have been on the same side on this since day 1. I'd be waving the Orton banner if I thought we had the team around him (a la Baltimore with Dilfer) to win some games. But we clearly do not. I (we) would rather win with the young guy to see what he can do.
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Exactly, so why start a journeyman who'll be out of here after this season when you have a first round QB on the bench?
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Fair enough. Although I think there's reason for at least optimism with Franklin, Moore, and the TE. We need Moore to be good badly. Need a good young safety.
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Shhh... that doesn't count when evaluating the new staff.
When our mediocre offense has become a bottom feeder at the same time, yeah it doesn't count for much.
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Exactly, so why start a journeyman who'll be out of here after this season when you have a first round QB on the bench?
Preaching to the choir. I'd much rather lose with Tebow than Orton.
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Perhaps, but Cam Newton was going to be a major bust. Buffalo and Detroit are 3 - 0. Not everything is written in stone.
No but it will even out it always does. The best teams always rise to the top as the season goes along
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On a positive for John, I think we can all agree the draft was good.
Von Miller was absolutely an excellent choice. Since then?

The draft was excellent, Moore, Franklin, Thomas are all starters with Miller. That's a cracking draft!

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