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Old 09-22-2011, 11:45 AM   #1
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Yo, dude (Or anyone else with a in-depth understanding of football), have you ever thought of breaking down Broncos film like this?






That would be so cool. That's what I really want, I want to learn what makes these players good or bad. I'm tired of hearing everyone's opinions on Timmy and Orton and Javaris Moss. I'd really much rather learn the game of football so I can decide for myself who's good and who's not. How do I learn?

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Old 09-22-2011, 12:03 PM   #2
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:07 PM   #3
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Start by reading some of the articles posted on www.itsalloverfatman.com under the "fat camp" series.

New one just posted today is very informative.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:08 PM   #5
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Thanks crush, I'll check it out.

Edit: Awesome bro, exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for. Thanks.
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Pat Kirwan wrote a nice and easy to understand book on the subject:

http://www.patkirwan.com/

You can get the book a lot cheaper at Amazon.com.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:10 PM   #7
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:11 PM   #9
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Pat Kirwan wrote a nice and easy to understand book on the subject:

http://www.patkirwan.com/

You can get the book a lot cheaper at Amazon.com.
I think I'll pick it up. I was at Barnes & Noble looking for books like this and their selection was pretty slim.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:12 PM   #11
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Read books, play it, or volunteer to help coach locally. Preferably all 3 options.
That would be a blast.

I've always wanted to be behind the whistle for a two-a-day instead of running till I puke.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:30 PM   #12
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That would be a blast.

I've always wanted to be behind the whistle for a two-a-day instead of running till I puke.
I'm the same way. My problem is that every time I try, they find out I'm way too good an athlete to be on the other side of the whistle. It sucks, because I'm smarter than the coaches. But at the end of the day, I guess they feel that my kind of athleticism can't be coached.

I'm basically a conundrum wrapped in an enigma.

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Old 09-22-2011, 12:53 PM   #13
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Read books, play it, or volunteer to help coach locally. Preferably all 3 options.
This can't be right; I was informed here on the Mane that no one who works for ESPN (including all those former NFL players) knows anywhere near as much about Broncos football as we OM posters do.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:56 PM   #14
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This can't be right; I was informed here on the Mane that no one who works for ESPN (including all those former NFL players) knows anywhere near as much about Broncos football as we OM posters do.
THey may know alot, but just like any cable "news" show there is a focus on stories that will draw more attention and are tabloid in nature.

ESPN rarely does a film breakdown anymore.

Playbook on nfln is as close as I have seen and I don't think anyone has ever ragged on those stories. In fact, objective reporting would be great.

Now, when they get in an OP/ED format and go fox news style, we all have a problem with that.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:02 PM   #15
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Btw, stopped watching that video by the time the first play was up.

Not a cover 3 in any way shape or form lol
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I would give the OM podcasts a listen, the guys put in a lot of time to do it and it is very well done.
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I'm the same way. My problem is that every time I try, they find out I'm way too good an athlete to be on the other side of the whistle. It sucks, because I'm smarter than the coaches. But at the end of the day, I guess they feel that my kind of athleticism can't be coached.

I'm basically a conundrum wrapped in an enigma.

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! As I was reading this, I was ready to rep you stating, "Thank you Bronco Warrior" then I saw you had him pegged perfectly. Funny how someone here for such a short time makes a great mark on the Mane for years later. Those that don't know B.W. (David Webb), go back to find some threads. Pure enjoyment. Just don't plagerize him.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:42 PM   #18
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Btw, stopped watching that video by the time the first play was up.

Not a cover 3 in any way shape or form lol
You've got a captive audience interested in talking about the finer points of football here, man. Shine some light for us. This is exactly the kind of stuff that is interesting to talk about. Why is this not cover 3? What more does it take? It looked to me that the LCB and RCB were dropping back to their deep thirds, and Moore was sitting in the deep middle(offscreen). What am I missing? I would honestly love to know.

I love that there are guys out there trying to put together content like this. It does wonders to open up the discussion, even if they have some inaccuracies, or you disagree.

Or maybe we could just go back to the usual posting memes and yelling.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:48 PM   #19
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Btw, stopped watching that video by the time the first play was up.

Not a cover 3 in any way shape or form lol
Ya, not me. I was like, "uh huh, uh huh... definitely a cover 3."
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:49 PM   #20
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I would give the OM podcasts a listen, the guys put in a lot of time to do it and it is very well done.
Listened to the first, I'll go back and listen to the others.
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! As I was reading this, I was ready to rep you stating, "Thank you Bronco Warrior" then I saw you had him pegged perfectly. Funny how someone here for such a short time makes a great mark on the Mane for years later. Those that don't know B.W. (David Webb), go back to find some threads. Pure enjoyment. Just don't plagerize him.
I had no idea that was his name until you mentioned it the other day. Did he get banned from here, or did he leave voluntarily? If he was banned, I think we should start a campaign to lift the ban. He was awesome - a star that burned bright and hot.

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Btw, stopped watching that video by the time the first play was up.

Not a cover 3 in any way shape or form lol
Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:55 PM   #23
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Ya, not me. I was like, "uh huh, uh huh... definitely a cover 3."
Simple and basic tip on coverages:

The cover ___ # indicates how many are deep.

Cover 0 = 0
Cover 1 = 1
Cover 2 = 2
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Watch the safeties and it's very easy. Promise.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:20 PM   #24
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Simple and basic tip on coverages:

The cover ___ # indicates how many are deep.

Cover 0 = 0
Cover 1 = 1
Cover 2 = 2
etc

Watch the safeties and it's very easy. Promise.
Apparently this is an inverted cover 3, at least I think it is. It matches up pretty well with the analysis:

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Apparently this is an inverted cover 3, at least I think it is. It matches up pretty well with the analysis:

No... that's just a cover 3. In a high school 52 formation no less... with the SS playing almost a SLB so effectively 53.

Inverted coverage means the safeties are closer to the LOS while the corners back off. That's all. Nothing to do with responsibilities, etc.

So in the video when he says "in an inverted cover 3 with a safety deep" it's actually an oxymoron and another reason of why I clicked out of that piece of **** faster than you can get an erection to Anna Kournikova
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