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Old 09-18-2011, 09:33 PM   #1
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Has any single player meant more to a team or had a team based around them more than peyton Manning?

The colts are TERRIBLE without him.

If Green bay, or New england, etc.... lost rodgers, brady, etc...... they might not be SB contenders........ but to see a team sink this low over one player is crazy.
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Orton. but in a backwards way.
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Elway meant as much. We went from Super Bowl winner to 6-10 when he retired.
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Orton. but in a backwards way.
Yes blame Orton, when he is throwing to a Rookie WR, and Tim tebow.....
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prolly not

maybe the Broncos with Elway in the 80s
Falcons did a turn around the year Vick broke his leg

the Colts show though how overrated Polian is
He is considered a good GM yet his recent drafting has been trash
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Elway meant as much. We went from Super Bowl winner to 6-10 when he retired.
Still....... do you think the colts even have a chance of going 6-10.......
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Elway meant as much. We went from Super Bowl winner to 6-10 when he retired.
Go farther back around 1988 when we were 8-4 and Elway went down. Finished 8-8 with Reeves' M and M debacle.
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Still....... do you think the colts even have a chance of going 6-10.......
The Colts aren't as good as the Broncos team that Elway left. Not even close.
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Yes blame Orton, when he is throwing to a Rookie WR, and Tim tebow.....
oh don't worry. I do.
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Go farther back around 1988 when we were 8-4 and Elway went down. Finished 8-8 with Reeves' M and M debacle.
Oh no doubt. From very early on Elway was the Broncos and probably accounted for 6-8 wins a year.
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Yes blame Orton, when he is throwing to a Rookie WR, and Tim tebow.....
Do you mean Decker? Decker isn't a rookie, and is the only reason Orton looked half decent today (emphasis on the word 'half').
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Orton.

Without him managing games for Denver the past three years, Denver turns the ball over every time and loses every game. Its like Obama's stimulus "saving" jobs.
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Elway meant as much. We went from Super Bowl winner to 6-10 when he retired.
TD, Sharp, Smith, Tons of Defensive guys missed most of the season, I seem to remember
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Do you mean Decker? Decker isn't a rookie, and is the only reason Orton looked half decent today (emphasis on the word 'half').
well he didn't play last year and made his first start today
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well he didn't play last year and made his first start today
That doesn't make him a rookie. You know that right?
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TD, Sharp, Smith, Tons of Defensive guys missed most of the season, I seem to remember
Sure, but it was the loss of Elway that really killed them. That team was done from the first game of the season without him. We all knew it.
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To be fair, this Colts team wasn't going to win 12 games with or without Manning.
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To be fair, this Colts team wasn't going to win 12 games with or without Manning.
Nope. They looked like a 9-7 or 10-6 team to me. Now they look like a 3-13 team.
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Brees is the closest right now.
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Sure, but it was the loss of Elway that really killed them. That team was done from the first game of the season without him. We all knew it.
God I remember trying to convince myself Bubby Brister could get the job done.
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Don't think for one minute if Brady went down Bellichick and company would be ok................
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Don't think for one minute if Brady went down Bellichick and company would be ok................
They went 11-5 with Matt Cassel of all people. Pretty sure they'd be better off than the Colts.
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Elway!

Those Super Bowls in the 80's. He was a one man show.
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The Dolphins fell apart without Marino and the Bills did with Kelly. You have to plan to replace the franchise
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